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Monsoon28 Underboss
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 Toronto
 | | 05/28/2005 9:00 PM |
| | recovered topic 4144 | | "I was sittin' here eatin' my muffin, drinkin' my coffee, replayin' the incident in my head, when I had what alcoholics refer to as a moment of clarity." - Jules Winnfield Sales/Trades Bad (1): Ironfist Boulderbender Trades/Sales completed (8.): Danthl, Dafrca, Garyaxe, qillan_dvra, realmaster, Vandal_Savage, cavedweller, unearthed arcana. Champion of Gem Dragons, VINDICATED Squire of Duergar Commander, Knight of the Astral Stalker.
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| Monsoon28 Underboss
 2299 Posts



 Toronto
 | | 05/28/2005 9:00 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by glauron
My shoes are polished, hair combed, lunch packed. In my schoolcase are the core books and my dice, and of course my nice shiny freshly painted and enamelled Paladin of Tyr. Yes folks, having survived the hill giants, ogres and destrachan, today we face the main orc army as it descends on Deadsnows. I figure Tyr saved his lowly cleric last time round, so 2 levels of paladin have been added. I don't intend to kill my character, but the DM might have other ideas. I'll let you know how things go.
Goodluck, your gonna need it! But what possibly can you hope for this time around?? Do the gates of hell open up?? Pitfiends? Or better yet the Lords of the Nine themselves come to smite your group?? | | "I was sittin' here eatin' my muffin, drinkin' my coffee, replayin' the incident in my head, when I had what alcoholics refer to as a moment of clarity." - Jules Winnfield Sales/Trades Bad (1): Ironfist Boulderbender Trades/Sales completed (8.): Danthl, Dafrca, Garyaxe, qillan_dvra, realmaster, Vandal_Savage, cavedweller, unearthed arcana. Champion of Gem Dragons, VINDICATED Squire of Duergar Commander, Knight of the Astral Stalker.
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| Darastrix Maekrix dariustad Warlord
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 | | 05/28/2005 9:36 PM |
| Heh, I would think one of the Nine could decimate their group. All of them would be overkill.
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| Monsoon28 Underboss
 2299 Posts



 Toronto
 | | 05/29/2005 7:19 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by dariustad
Heh, I would think one of the Nine could decimate their group. All of them would be overkill.
Use the terrain to your benefit!
Ahhh but you under-estimate the n00bness of his DM. I'm sure Elminster, Dalamar & Mordenkainen would all show up to save the day with Bahamut as their mount! | | "I was sittin' here eatin' my muffin, drinkin' my coffee, replayin' the incident in my head, when I had what alcoholics refer to as a moment of clarity." - Jules Winnfield Sales/Trades Bad (1): Ironfist Boulderbender Trades/Sales completed (8.): Danthl, Dafrca, Garyaxe, qillan_dvra, realmaster, Vandal_Savage, cavedweller, unearthed arcana. Champion of Gem Dragons, VINDICATED Squire of Duergar Commander, Knight of the Astral Stalker.
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| Hero of the Force Siddartha of Suburbia Underboss
 2277 Posts




 | | 05/29/2005 8:26 AM |
| If this game starts to head the same direction I'd just runa away screaming, "I DISBELIEVE!"
At least that last fight apparently netted enough experience to go up two levels. Maybe after this one you can get three? [:P] | | "We can't stop here...This Is Bat country!"
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| glauron Underboss
 1379 Posts



 Sydney, Australia
 | | 05/29/2005 9:25 PM |
| Ah well, this is how it went. 400 orcs attack us. Some NPCs toast most of them, but the goodies are saved til last. Seems one of our NPCs, a high level mage has been possessed by some CR13 Ghost. They also have some nasty spellcasters helping her in addition to one of Oubould's sons and his squad of 20 elite killer orcs. Amazingly, our NPC gods disappear and we are left to fight it out alone. Our party is hammered and I use all my healing spells keeping everyone alive. Our paladin runs off to help some children, the rest of us are hit with fireballs, cones of cold (15d6), a couple of unholy blights, and some serious melee hitters. You will be happy to know that my character kept everyone else alive but fell into darkness, just before we utterly defeated the enemy. My soul was at peace, having died fighting nobly in the front lines, sacrificing myself to aid friends. Sadly the DM would not let me rest. Tyr himself was so pleased with my valiant demise that he personally resurrected me. Not so pleased that I didn't lose a level. Pretty sucky that a god brings you back and you still lose a level huh. But there you are. It seems there is no way out for me. Cheers | | I have always been here. | |
| Ben Webster Warrior
 204 Posts



 Brisbane, Australia
 | | 05/29/2005 9:46 PM |
| Glauron,
You mentioned Thyr. Are you play a Necromancer Games module? They have the twin gods of Muir and Thyr.
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| Hero of the Force Siddartha of Suburbia Underboss
 2277 Posts




 | | 05/29/2005 9:51 PM |
| Tyr is one of the standard gods of the Forgotten realms.
well glauron, that sounds like it was as bad as last time. Did it feel that way to you as you played, or do you think there's any chance that the DM is going to mellow a bit and things will improve? | | "We can't stop here...This Is Bat country!"
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| tree druid Sergeant
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 | | 05/29/2005 9:59 PM |
| | Wow, good work. Ahh paladins must save the children, then for your deeds be resurrected. NOW GO SPREAD THE WORD OF TYR OR ELSE BOOM! | | After all the battles, all the death, life can begin again Champion of Radiant Dragons | |
| Knight of Argenis Corim Danex Warlord
 6621 Posts



 West Valley City, Utah
 | | 05/29/2005 10:32 PM |
| | Sorry you are going through that, glauron. I like the way you described the way your PC handled the situation. | | "Look to God and live." Alma 37:47 Vindicated Champ of Hippogriff (Arcadian Hippogriff) and Uncommon Horse | |
| glauron Underboss
 1379 Posts



 Sydney, Australia
 | | 05/29/2005 10:48 PM |
| It wasn't all bad. The 6 hour battle went about 10 turns. I went to the bathroom more often than I rolled dice. The mysterious ghost escaped. We have no idea what her role in events was. The town was mostly full of Lathanderites, but two of the PCs now wish to follow Tyr. One, the elf, even gave back his artifact armor and godly bow (gifts from Corellan foisted on him by the DM). Another a half-orc, is fully a Tyr follower. An NPC that the DM insists is a member of our group (we need a rogue) is also a follower of Tyr. This NPC is good aligned and seems to be my cohort, even though I don't have the leadership feat (and don't want a cohort). My cleric has saved all their butts several times. Lots of loot was recovered. We got first pick. Then were told we had to take the rest to Silverymoon and bring the money back to Deadsnows and Lady Icespear (local ruler). It also seems the head of her household guard, a female fighter named Rivha has the hots for my PC. I have no idea why. I never laid a healing hand on her. So we have 8 weeks game time to 'rest' then we must go to Silverymoon. Maybe the ghost has possessed Alustriel? Oh well. We'll be in Eberron for the next few gaming sessions. | | I have always been here. | |
| Knight of Argenis Corim Danex Warlord
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 West Valley City, Utah
 | | 05/29/2005 11:04 PM |
| | Well, if your character had nothing to do with it, maybe the ghost went into Rivha [:D] | | "Look to God and live." Alma 37:47 Vindicated Champ of Hippogriff (Arcadian Hippogriff) and Uncommon Horse | |
| Darastrix Maekrix dariustad Warlord
 6322 Posts




 | | 05/30/2005 1:08 AM |
| A ghost haunt Alustriel? A level 13 ghost... lol! Oh no! If your DM (although, saying that is difficult) pulls that one, I would cry foul. No way is a Chosen of Mystra going to be taken over by some silly ghost! Alustriel is too powerful, and Mystra won't allow it.
Granted, this guy seems to break the game more ways then I've seen in years. I would suggest your group sit him down and reign him in, or you're not going to enjoy the game for long. This feels like Monty Haul with no "Zonks." [:P] | | Trade & talk in real time on IRC! SERVER: irc.psionics.net CHANNEL: #maxminis SOFTWARE: PC | PC (free) | MAC
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| glauron Underboss
 1379 Posts



 Sydney, Australia
 | | 05/30/2005 3:18 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by dariustad
A ghost haunt Alustriel? A level 13 ghost... lol! Oh no! If your DM (although, saying that is difficult) pulls that one, I would cry foul. No way is a Chosen of Mystra going to be taken over by some silly ghost! Alustriel is too powerful, and Mystra won't allow it.
Granted, this guy seems to break the game more ways then I've seen in years. I would suggest your group sit him down and reign him in, or you're not going to enjoy the game for long. This feels like Monty Haul with no "Zonks." [:P]
Hahaha. I'm pretty sure this cheesy ghost won't possess Alustriel. I have no idea why we are going there though, despite the 'hook' about selling loot for Deadsnows. None of our characters come from Silverymoon. The 'fearless' paladin, who always finds an excuse to be elsewhere comes from Waterdeep. I think we go there some time in the future to suck up to Khelben, and maybe kill some beholders. My guy comes from Sundabar (much closer to Deadsnows and a great place to offload loot (but not allowed to do that there). The other PCs are from uninhabited backwaters. Maybe our monk turned sorcerer has an appointment with destiny in Silverymoon. Hmmmm, if that ghost possesses Drizzt, maybe we can take him out. BTW, the guy playing the paladin is deliberately roleplaying him that way. It's pretty funny. Instead of charging into battle he stands back, all alone saying "Hold the line" lol. Yesterday when the baddies came swarming through he ran off to protect the children, too funny. The DM didn't bat an eyelid. I'm going to see how long he takes to work the Paladin out. | | I have always been here. | |
| Monsoon28 Underboss
 2299 Posts



 Toronto
 | | 05/30/2005 5:26 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by glauron BTW, the guy playing the paladin is deliberately roleplaying him that way. It's pretty funny. Instead of charging into battle he stands back, all alone saying "Hold the line" lol. Yesterday when the baddies came swarming through he ran off to protect the children, too funny. The DM didn't bat an eyelid. I'm going to see how long he takes to work the Paladin out.
LMAO! I know now why I've always hated Paladin! [)]
Back to the main topic, Couldn't you have just told the DM that you were at peace and had no interest to return to the land of the living? I thought the deceased had to be willing to return, for it to work?
And are you saying after all your hard work that supposedly, bought Tyr himself down to return you to the land of the living, that Try was a miser and only used a simple Raise Dead on you? Remind me never to worship his cheap ass! [)] | | "I was sittin' here eatin' my muffin, drinkin' my coffee, replayin' the incident in my head, when I had what alcoholics refer to as a moment of clarity." - Jules Winnfield Sales/Trades Bad (1): Ironfist Boulderbender Trades/Sales completed (8.): Danthl, Dafrca, Garyaxe, qillan_dvra, realmaster, Vandal_Savage, cavedweller, unearthed arcana. Champion of Gem Dragons, VINDICATED Squire of Duergar Commander, Knight of the Astral Stalker.
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| glauron Underboss
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 Sydney, Australia
 | | 05/30/2005 5:43 AM |
| quote:
Back to the main topic, Couldn't you have just told the DM that you were at peace and had no interest to return to the land of the living? I thought the deceased had to be willing to return, for it to work?
And are you saying after all your hard work that supposedly, bought Tyr himself down to return you to the land of the living, that Try was a miser and only used a simple Raise Dead on you? Remind me never to worship his cheap ass! [)]
It is a long story. When we were L3 characters he miscalculated EL and did a TPK. He wheezed out by saying it was all subdual and we woke up as captives. One of the baddies tried to shatter my longsword. It was magic, symbol of Tyr stuff on it. A piece of the metal hit me and mystically was absorbed into my blood. I found out yesterday it was my get out of jail free card. Technically I didn't die, so I couldn't refuse being brought back. Non-resurrection is a standard clause in every character I have ever played. Go Hardcore! Sadly, even though I didn't technically die, I did lose a level. Go figure. Tyr rocks. Usually I play woosy clerics. Tyr clerics are fighters! I also have a few levels of Paladin, so I don't expect I'll last too long, the way DM chucks ridiculous ELs at us. When my character went into negative HP yesterday I quietly waited for my turn and then laid him down. The baddies then lobbed an area effect spell targeting me (Unholy Blight). He says roll to save. I say I fail. Then he picks up my mini, thinking it was bumped over. He didn't even know I was dead, sigh. Dying is not something my characters are renowned for. I guess I need more practice. | | I have always been here. | |
| Darastrix Maekrix dariustad Warlord
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 | | 05/30/2005 6:33 PM |
| I keep waiting for your group to face the Terrasque. That should be within the next couple of those sessions, no? [:P]
Tyr himself will probably step it to help you! Maybe even Mystra? [B)] | | Trade & talk in real time on IRC! SERVER: irc.psionics.net CHANNEL: #maxminis SOFTWARE: PC | PC (free) | MAC
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| Monsoon28 Underboss
 2299 Posts



 Toronto
 | | 05/30/2005 7:38 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by glauron Dying is not something my characters are renowned for. I guess I need more practice.
Well lucky for you, you have this wonderful DM to help you practice!
quote: Originally posted by dariustad keep waiting for your group to face the Terrasque. That should be within the next couple of those sessions, no?
Tyr himself will probably step it to help you! Maybe even Mystra?
Terrasque by level 13 you heard it here first! [)]
Nahhhh more likely Helm, Torm and Tempus are likely to help out Tyr! [:P] | | "I was sittin' here eatin' my muffin, drinkin' my coffee, replayin' the incident in my head, when I had what alcoholics refer to as a moment of clarity." - Jules Winnfield Sales/Trades Bad (1): Ironfist Boulderbender Trades/Sales completed (8.): Danthl, Dafrca, Garyaxe, qillan_dvra, realmaster, Vandal_Savage, cavedweller, unearthed arcana. Champion of Gem Dragons, VINDICATED Squire of Duergar Commander, Knight of the Astral Stalker.
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| Hero of the Force Siddartha of Suburbia Underboss
 2277 Posts




 | | 05/30/2005 7:39 PM |
| | Next session has to be a Dragon. big one too I bet. | | "We can't stop here...This Is Bat country!"
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| Darastrix Maekrix dariustad Warlord
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 | | 05/30/2005 8:59 PM |
| | Malystryx! She does a cameo appearance straight from the Desolation on Krynn! No one wants to know how she gets there, only that you will destroy her, somehow. [:o)] | | Trade & talk in real time on IRC! SERVER: irc.psionics.net CHANNEL: #maxminis SOFTWARE: PC | PC (free) | MAC
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| Monsoon28 Underboss
 2299 Posts



 Toronto
 | | 05/31/2005 8:23 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by dariustad
Malystryx! She does a cameo appearance straight from the Desolation on Krynn! No one wants to know how she gets there, only that you will destroy her, somehow. [:o)]
Or better yet that chaos god (the one who stepped on Tasslehoff, I forget his name) he can certainly make an appearance. Or maybe Ao will go crazy and it'll be your character's job to put him down like the dog that he is! [:o)] | | "I was sittin' here eatin' my muffin, drinkin' my coffee, replayin' the incident in my head, when I had what alcoholics refer to as a moment of clarity." - Jules Winnfield Sales/Trades Bad (1): Ironfist Boulderbender Trades/Sales completed (8.): Danthl, Dafrca, Garyaxe, qillan_dvra, realmaster, Vandal_Savage, cavedweller, unearthed arcana. Champion of Gem Dragons, VINDICATED Squire of Duergar Commander, Knight of the Astral Stalker.
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| glauron Underboss
 1379 Posts



 Sydney, Australia
 | | 06/01/2005 11:47 PM |
| Don't get me going on Dragonlance. That is another campaign I'm in, with another of our group being the DM. We're about L11 average in that campaign, and yes we have met Malysteryx (sp). Well she disdainfully flew over our group, but one of the party (not my Druid) is destined to do a Mina and bring her down in this DMs version of the War of Souls. Yeah, we have magic in this kidnapped Krynn, and yeah, the undead are leaving us alone, for the time being. So those of you who know the campaign setting and the era will know that there is a big fudge factor here too. That aside ELs are more realistic, even though we have had to beat the snot out of loads of dragonspawn (don't ask how). Magic items do seem to 'fall from the sky'. It is the highest magic level campaign I have ever played in. Sort of fun having epic level gear at low levels. The DM has a great storyline going and lots of action, so we're not sweating the plot variations. All good fun, which is the main thing. | | I have always been here. | |
| Darastrix Maekrix dariustad Warlord
 6322 Posts




 | | 06/02/2005 4:36 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by Monsoon28
quote: Originally posted by dariustad
Malystryx! She does a cameo appearance straight from the Desolation on Krynn! No one wants to know how she gets there, only that you will destroy her, somehow. [:o)]
Or better yet that chaos god (the one who stepped on Tasslehoff, I forget his name) he can certainly make an appearance. Or maybe Ao will go crazy and it'll be your character's job to put him down like the dog that he is! [:o)]
The Chaos god's name was... drumroll!... Chaos! [)] | | Trade & talk in real time on IRC! SERVER: irc.psionics.net CHANNEL: #maxminis SOFTWARE: PC | PC (free) | MAC
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| The Great Choco Monster Ghendar Warlord
 11225 Posts



 The Dark and Forbidding Lands of The Necromancer.
 | | 06/02/2005 7:34 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by glauron
My shoes are polished, hair combed, lunch packed. In my schoolcase are the core books and my dice, and of course my nice shiny freshly painted and enamelled Paladin of Tyr. Yes folks, having survived the hill giants, ogres and destrachan, today we face the main orc army as it descends on Deadsnows. I figure Tyr saved his lowly cleric last time round, so 2 levels of paladin have been added. I don't intend to kill my character, but the DM might have other ideas. I'll let you know how things go.
With all due respect glauron, why do you put up with this DM? Just listening to this makes ME want to stick a knife in my eye. I can't imagine actually running a PC in one of his games. | | Ghendar - Now with 51% more snark
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| Testament Underboss
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 | | 06/02/2005 8:09 AM |
| Your eye? What would that achieve? How about te GM's eye?
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| Zeb Underboss
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 | | 06/02/2005 10:35 PM |
| I feel for you Glauron...I once had a gnome thief/illusionist (2e campaign) that was granted 5 levels of paladin after killing a demon prince single-handedly and rescuing a princess (yeah right!). The God of Cheese was definitely among us that evening and possessing the body of our DM.
It took the DM all of about 10 seconds to rescind those paladin levels after my PC threatened to assassinate the high priest of said new god or die in the attempt! [}:)]
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| glauron Underboss
 1379 Posts



 Sydney, Australia
 | | 06/04/2005 3:32 AM |
| How do I put up with the DM? He is a friend and a good guy. So he's not the world's best DM. It doesn't mean I pack up and go home. Here is where I get to rant about it [:)]. He doesn't get away scott free. Three other PCs in the group are DMs and they often question his sessions. In fact today I got am email from him. He wants me to pop over on a non-gaming night and have an aside session where he can DM in peace, without the "rules lawyers" i.e., the other knowledgeable players saying "You can't do that." And I will go too. He'll get better. He's only a kid, 39 I think.
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| Monsoon28 Underboss
 2299 Posts



 Toronto
 | | 06/08/2005 4:52 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by dariustad
quote: Originally posted by Monsoon28 Or better yet that chaos god (the one who stepped on Tasslehoff, I forget his name) he can certainly make an appearance. Or maybe Ao will go crazy and it'll be your character's job to put him down like the dog that he is! [:o)]
The Chaos god's name was... drumroll!... Chaos! [)]
LoL! Man no wonder I could remember his name! LMAO! | | "I was sittin' here eatin' my muffin, drinkin' my coffee, replayin' the incident in my head, when I had what alcoholics refer to as a moment of clarity." - Jules Winnfield Sales/Trades Bad (1): Ironfist Boulderbender Trades/Sales completed (8.): Danthl, Dafrca, Garyaxe, qillan_dvra, realmaster, Vandal_Savage, cavedweller, unearthed arcana. Champion of Gem Dragons, VINDICATED Squire of Duergar Commander, Knight of the Astral Stalker.
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| Monsoon28 Underboss
 2299 Posts



 Toronto
 | | 06/08/2005 5:04 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by glauron
Don't get me going on Dragonlance. That is another campaign I'm in, with another of our group being the DM. We're about L11 average in that campaign, and yes we have met Malysteryx (sp). Well she disdainfully flew over our group, but one of the party (not my Druid) is destined to do a Mina and bring her down in this DMs version of the War of Souls. Yeah, we have magic in this kidnapped Krynn, and yeah, the undead are leaving us alone, for the time being. So those of you who know the campaign setting and the era will know that there is a big fudge factor here too. That aside ELs are more realistic, even though we have had to beat the snot out of loads of dragonspawn (don't ask how). Magic items do seem to 'fall from the sky'. It is the highest magic level campaign I have ever played in. Sort of fun having epic level gear at low levels. The DM has a great storyline going and lots of action, so we're not sweating the plot variations. All good fun, which is the main thing.
Well so long as the adventure is fun and not too over the top, that's all that matters. I've been in a couple of DL campaigns in the past that have deviated from Novel 'Canon', was never really a problem for me. Heck, Ed Greenwood's campaigns are nothing like current FR 'canon' (I wish I could be in one of his campaigns...all praise Myrkul and Bhaal!)
quote: Originally posted by glauron He's only a kid, 39 I think.
ROFLMAO! 39! 39! Man just take his DMG&DMsScreen away from him, he just wasn't meant to ever tell a story! [)] | | "I was sittin' here eatin' my muffin, drinkin' my coffee, replayin' the incident in my head, when I had what alcoholics refer to as a moment of clarity." - Jules Winnfield Sales/Trades Bad (1): Ironfist Boulderbender Trades/Sales completed (8.): Danthl, Dafrca, Garyaxe, qillan_dvra, realmaster, Vandal_Savage, cavedweller, unearthed arcana. Champion of Gem Dragons, VINDICATED Squire of Duergar Commander, Knight of the Astral Stalker.
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| The Great Choco Monster Ghendar Warlord
 11225 Posts



 The Dark and Forbidding Lands of The Necromancer.
 | | 06/08/2005 8:04 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by glauron
How do I put up with the DM? He is a friend and a good guy. So he's not the world's best DM. It doesn't mean I pack up and go home. Here is where I get to rant about it [:)].
(The following is not intended to start an argument. Just trying to explain my point of view)
Never was trying to suggest you should jettison him as a friend. In fact, I applaud your loyalty It just sounds as if he doesn't have a clue about DMimg. Why rant about it when you can change it?
By the way, not everyone is cut out for DMimg. He might not get any better.
The way you describe these sessions sounds, quite frankly, painful. I wouldn't put up with it. I guess I should ask, if this guy is so bad then why not get someone else to DM instead?
My POV is that I play D&D to have fun. What you are describing does NOT sound fun. I'm looking at it from that angle. My opinion is you need a new (and better) DM.
| | Ghendar - Now with 51% more snark
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| Hero of the Force Siddartha of Suburbia Underboss
 2277 Posts




 | | 06/08/2005 10:09 PM |
| In the end it gets down to one statement, "What can you do, he's a mate."
i've said it many times, as have many people in my group. Not about our DM specifically, but about a player who did the most inane and foolish things you can imagine in a game. His characters were pure disruption, but hey, he meant well, and that counts for a lot. Everyone has sat through a game they didn't enjoy from time to time because friendship is involved. At the end of the day, the friend is more important anyway. | | "We can't stop here...This Is Bat country!"
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| The Great Choco Monster Ghendar Warlord
 11225 Posts



 The Dark and Forbidding Lands of The Necromancer.
 | | 06/09/2005 6:56 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by Siddartha of Suburbia
In the end it gets down to one statement, "What can you do, he's a mate."
i've said it many times, as have many people in my group. Not about our DM specifically, but about a player who did the most inane and foolish things you can imagine in a game. His characters were pure disruption, but hey, he meant well, and that counts for a lot. Everyone has sat through a game they didn't enjoy from time to time because friendship is involved. At the end of the day, the friend is more important anyway.
quote: Originally posted by Siddartha of Suburbia
In the end it gets down to one statement, "What can you do, he's a mate."
i've said it many times, as have many people in my group. Not about our DM specifically, but about a player who did the most inane and foolish things you can imagine in a game. His characters were pure disruption, but hey, he meant well, and that counts for a lot. Everyone has sat through a game they didn't enjoy from time to time because friendship is involved. At the end of the day, the friend is more important anyway.
You're absolutely right, Sidd. Friendship is more important than a game. If I gave the impression that I value the game more than friendship, that's not what I meant. However, what is wrong with just saying to this guy, in a polite, constructive way, that maybe he shouldn't be DMing? That's all I'm saying. In the end glauron, it's your life, it's your decision, so be it. I'm not trying to tell you what you should do, I'm just trying to understand why your group puts up with it, that's all. If you believe that telling him this will endanger the friendship then I fully understand why you don't want to do it. Is that the case? | | Ghendar - Now with 51% more snark
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| glauron Underboss
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 | | 06/11/2005 5:59 AM |
| quote: You're absolutely right, Sidd. Friendship is more important than a game. If I gave the impression that I value the game more than friendship, that's not what I meant. However, what is wrong with just saying to this guy, in a polite, constructive way, that maybe he shouldn't be DMing? That's all I'm saying. In the end glauron, it's your life, it's your decision, so be it. I'm not trying to tell you what you should do, I'm just trying to understand why your group puts up with it, that's all. If you believe that telling him this will endanger the friendship then I fully understand why you don't want to do it. Is that the case?
Well Ghendar, absolutely no offense taken. This group I game with has 5 DMs. We rotate our campaigns. One way to drop hints is by example. So hopefully he'll pick up some useful tips from others. I have politely, on several occasions, mentioned to him that his CRs are a bit off the mark. Also, I've only been playing D&D for about 15 years, with perhaps 10 different DMs, and believe me, we all have our faults. If his was the only game, then I may well be a bit more outspoken, I don't know. If his was the only game, I might think, gee, if I walk, no more D&D. Would being more forthright endanger the friendship? Hmmm, asking the wrong guy. You would have to ask him. I think he's more fragile than I am when it comes to criticism. Anyway, next Monday, it's my turn to pilot. At the end of the session I'll ask for feedback. Maybe next time he DMs he will do the same. Cheers | | I have always been here. | |
| Hero of the Force Siddartha of Suburbia Underboss
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 | | 06/11/2005 8:50 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by glauron
Anyway, next Monday, it's my turn to pilot. At the end of the session I'll ask for feedback. Maybe next time he DMs he will do the same. Cheers
that's a pretty good idea. Except that I have found that those who have trouble with critisism have that trouble even when they ask for it. I would guess that experience, and the example of your other DMs will be the best way. Practce, as they say, makes perfect. or at least not totally imperfect. [:D] | | "We can't stop here...This Is Bat country!"
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