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CarrionCrawler
Underboss
1760 Posts
    
 | | 07/31/2005 9:44 PM |
| | recovered topic 6739 | |
Vindicated Night Below Champion of the Digestor!!! Knight of the OozesIcons called shot: Angry MobThe stink of rotten meat surrounds this multilegged creature with a segmented, 10-foot long body. Eight writhing tentacles protrude from its head, growing directly from below its clacking mandibles and tooth-filled maw. | |
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CarrionCrawler
Underboss
1760 Posts
| | 07/31/2005 9:44 PM |
| So...that would be a "no".
Edit: Meant to add a [:p] | |
Vindicated Night Below Champion of the Digestor!!! Knight of the OozesIcons called shot: Angry MobThe stink of rotten meat surrounds this multilegged creature with a segmented, 10-foot long body. Eight writhing tentacles protrude from its head, growing directly from below its clacking mandibles and tooth-filled maw. | |
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kestrel.ca
Underboss
1677 Posts
| | 07/31/2005 10:31 PM |
| According to the Monster Manual, the Nymph has a Level Adjustment of +7 (last line of stat block). Add that to her 6 HD, and ECL becomes 13.
As for a level progression, I'd take a look at the Nixie and Pixie monster classes, and try to extrapolate the Nymph's abilities' progression from there. | |
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glauron
Underboss
1379 Posts
Sydney, Australia
| | 08/01/2005 2:39 AM |
| So .... that would be a yes.
Another nymph you can play with could be a maniac. | |
I have always been here. | |
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Iyceman
Warrior
180 Posts
| | 08/01/2005 3:25 AM |
| I suggest what I did for some monster classes: read how the minotaur was done, and how a few of the others have been evaluated. Then build yours from there.
From my observations, as a rule of thumb, based on the LA of the creature that creature has X levels where no HD is gained. This occurs every two levels starting at level 3 until the LA is made up. So a sample would be:
Lv 1. +1 HD, +Base Saves, +skills, + abils (usually a lot of the disadvantageous stuff here too)
Lv 2. +1 HD, +Base saves, +skills, + abils
Lv 3. no HD, no saves inc., no skills, +unbalancing abils...
Lv 4. as level 1&2
Lv 5. as level 3... etc until LA is paid off.
Maybe this'll help (I hope it does...) | |
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kestrel.ca
Underboss
1677 Posts
| | 08/01/2005 1:12 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Iyceman
I suggest what I did for some monster classes: read how the minotaur was done, and how a few of the others have been evaluated. Then build yours from there.
From my observations, as a rule of thumb, based on the LA of the creature that creature has X levels where no HD is gained. This occurs every two levels starting at level 3 until the LA is made up. So a sample would be:
Lv 1. +1 HD, +Base Saves, +skills, + abils (usually a lot of the disadvantageous stuff here too)
Lv 2. +1 HD, +Base saves, +skills, + abils
Lv 3. no HD, no saves inc., no skills, +unbalancing abils...
Lv 4. as level 1&2
Lv 5. as level 3... etc until LA is paid off.
Maybe this'll help (I hope it does...)
Except in this case, there's only 6 HD by the time you get to 13th Lvl.
Ex [probably need a little tweaking to make it balanced] but the end result is the same.
1 - 1HD, Base Save, Skill, Feat, spells as Druid 1, +8 bonus to Swim, low-light vision, +2 Cha
2 - +2 Wis, unearthly grace, Stunning glance 1/day
3 - 2HD, Base Save, Skill, spells as Druid 2, wild empathy +2 Int
4 - +2 Dex, DR 5/cold iron, Stunning glance 3/day
5 - 3 HD, Base Save, Skill, Feat, spells as Druid 3, +2 Con
6 - +2 Cha, Stunning glance 5/day
7 - 4 HD, Base Save, Skill, Ability increase, spells as Druid 4, +2 Wis
8 - +2 Dex, DR 10/cold iron, spells as Druid 5
9 - +2 Int, +2 Cha., Blinding Beauty,
10 - 5 HD, Base Save, Skill, spells as Druid 6, +2 Wis
11 - +2 Dex, Dimension Door 1/day
12 - 6 HD, Base Save, Skill, spells as Druid 7, +2 Int, feat
13 - +2 Cha, Stunning glance (at will)
[Feats, skills, and ability increases only occur when HD are gained, not ECL.]
And there would need to be one place where there's two non-HD granting levels in a row. Balance that with a slightly better than average ability gain, and it should remain fairly balanced. | |
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CarrionCrawler
Underboss
1760 Posts
| | 08/01/2005 1:26 PM |
| | Great work! I really appreciate it! You've made Mrs. Crawler happy (which, in turn, makes The Crawler very happy!) [:D] | |
Vindicated Night Below Champion of the Digestor!!! Knight of the OozesIcons called shot: Angry MobThe stink of rotten meat surrounds this multilegged creature with a segmented, 10-foot long body. Eight writhing tentacles protrude from its head, growing directly from below its clacking mandibles and tooth-filled maw. | |
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Fry
Underboss
1724 Posts
| | 08/01/2005 3:38 PM |
| | Incidentally, the thread title gives me quite a chuckle. Hee hee! | |
"Why am I all sticky and naked? Did I miss something fun?"
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Iyceman
Warrior
180 Posts
| | 08/01/2005 3:54 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by kestrel.ca
quote:
Originally posted by Iyceman
I suggest what I did for some monster classes: read how the minotaur was done, and how a few of the others have been evaluated. Then build yours from there.
From my observations, as a rule of thumb, based on the LA of the creature that creature has X levels where no HD is gained. This occurs every two levels starting at level 3 until the LA is made up. So a sample would be:
Lv 1. +1 HD, +Base Saves, +skills, + abils (usually a lot of the disadvantageous stuff here too)
Lv 2. +1 HD, +Base saves, +skills, + abils
Lv 3. no HD, no saves inc., no skills, +unbalancing abils...
Lv 4. as level 1&2
Lv 5. as level 3... etc until LA is paid off.
Maybe this'll help (I hope it does...)
Except in this case, there's only 6 HD by the time you get to 13th Lvl.
Ex [probably need a little tweaking to make it balanced] but the end result is the same.
1 - 1HD, Base Save, Skill, Feat, spells as Druid 1, +8 bonus to Swim, low-light vision, +2 Cha
2 - +2 Wis, unearthly grace, Stunning glance 1/day
3 - 2HD, Base Save, Skill, spells as Druid 2, wild empathy +2 Int
4 - +2 Dex, DR 5/cold iron, Stunning glance 3/day
5 - 3 HD, Base Save, Skill, Feat, spells as Druid 3, +2 Con
6 - +2 Cha, Stunning glance 5/day
7 - 4 HD, Base Save, Skill, Ability increase, spells as Druid 4, +2 Wis
8 - +2 Dex, DR 10/cold iron, spells as Druid 5
9 - +2 Int, +2 Cha., Blinding Beauty,
10 - 5 HD, Base Save, Skill, spells as Druid 6, +2 Wis
11 - +2 Dex, Dimension Door 1/day
12 - 6 HD, Base Save, Skill, spells as Druid 7, +2 Int, feat
13 - +2 Cha, Stunning glance (at will)
[Feats, skills, and ability increases only occur when HD are gained, not ECL.]
And there would need to be one place where there's two non-HD granting levels in a row. Balance that with a slightly better than average ability gain, and it should remain fairly balanced.
Well, like I said, you have to look at other ones--fey--to see how they're done as well. Your class is good, just needs a few tweaks here and there. :)
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Kaya Kenobi
Underboss
1304 Posts
San Jose, California
| | 08/01/2005 10:14 PM |
| | The Nymph is in the Savage Species, I believe... Go check it out sometime.. :) | |
Just a simple traveler from the swamps of Dagobah otherwise known as Florida. Also known as Hurricane Alley!
I always try to send through delivery confirmation, and I expect the same. It's only 55 cents extra, so it's just a little more than a pay phone call, so just do it for the Kai.  I prefer to trade with people in the US and Canada, sorry everyone else.
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CarrionCrawler
Underboss
1760 Posts
| | 08/01/2005 11:45 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Kaya Kenobi
The Nymph is in the Savage Species, I believe... Go check it out sometime.. :)
It's not in the Savage Species...that's why I posted! [:)] | |
Vindicated Night Below Champion of the Digestor!!! Knight of the OozesIcons called shot: Angry MobThe stink of rotten meat surrounds this multilegged creature with a segmented, 10-foot long body. Eight writhing tentacles protrude from its head, growing directly from below its clacking mandibles and tooth-filled maw. | |
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Kaya Kenobi
Underboss
1304 Posts
San Jose, California
| | 08/02/2005 12:06 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by CarrionCrawler
quote:
Originally posted by Kaya Kenobi
The Nymph is in the Savage Species, I believe... Go check it out sometime.. :)
It's not in the Savage Species...that's why I posted! [:)]
I could have sworn I saw it there... Could be just the stats, and not the progression itself. | |
Just a simple traveler from the swamps of Dagobah otherwise known as Florida. Also known as Hurricane Alley!
I always try to send through delivery confirmation, and I expect the same. It's only 55 cents extra, so it's just a little more than a pay phone call, so just do it for the Kai. I prefer to trade with people in the US and Canada, sorry everyone else.
http://www.maxminis.com/Forums/tabid/104/forumid/53/postid/655406/view/topic/Default.aspx - references | |
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CarrionCrawler
Underboss
1760 Posts
| | 08/02/2005 4:39 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Kaya Kenobi
quote:
Originally posted by CarrionCrawler
quote:
Originally posted by Kaya Kenobi
The Nymph is in the Savage Species, I believe... Go check it out sometime.. :)
It's not in the Savage Species...that's why I posted! [:)]
I could have sworn I saw it there... Could be just the stats, and not the progression itself.
Been wrong before....I'll check again...[)] | |
Vindicated Night Below Champion of the Digestor!!! Knight of the OozesIcons called shot: Angry MobThe stink of rotten meat surrounds this multilegged creature with a segmented, 10-foot long body. Eight writhing tentacles protrude from its head, growing directly from below its clacking mandibles and tooth-filled maw. | |
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