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 Lab Monkey Commander
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 | | 01/16/2006 3:45 PM |
| I just wanted to share an upcoming bad girl my PCs are going to face (probably several times). She serves as the spokesperson for the White Dragon Overlord in my DL campaign (we're leading up to a high level confrontation with the Overlord). I spent a ton of time yesterday stating her out. Books used include PHB, DMG, Complete Arcane (CA), Frostburn (FB), Draconomicon (DC), Weapons of Legacy (WoL) and the Spell Compendium (SC).
Here's a brief summary of her abilities. Note the synergy between Frost Mage and the Draconic Feats (bonuses to DC and CL for Cold type spells, bonus spells known, etc.)
Thedra the White CR12 Female Human Sorcerer 5th / Frost Mage 7th (FB) CE Medium Humaniod (Human) Init +4 Senses Listen -1, Spot -1 Languages Abyssal, Common, Draconic, Elven _________________________________________ AC 26 (34 with Shield and Dragonskin) Touch 15, Flat-footed 16 (24 buffed) Hp 63 (+1d10+10 buffed with False Life) Energy Resist Cold 10 Fort +7, Reflex +8, Will +9 (+5 save vs. sleep and paralysis; +5 save vs. cold spells and effects) _________________________________________ Speed 30 (6 squares) Melee Frostburn's Wrath (WoL) +5 (1d6/x2) or Melee Dragontooth Dagger (DC) +4 (1d4-1 +1 cold/19-20x2) or Ranged Dragontooth Dagger (DC) +9 (1d4-1 +1 cold/19-20x2) Base Attack +5, Grp +4 Attack Options Draconic Breath (CA; 30' cone cold), Spells, Freezing Spread (WoL), Ice Spike (WoL), Freezing Bolt (WoL) Combat Gear Frostburn's Wrath (WoL), Dragontooth Dagger (DC), Wand of Cure Light Wounds, Misc Scrolls _________________________________________ Spells CL 11th Spells / Day 6,8,7,6,6,6,3 Spells Known 0th Caltrops (SC), Detect Magic, Ghost Sound, Light, Mage Hand, Message, Prestidigitation, Read Magic, Ray of Frost 1st Charm Person, Conjure Ice Beast I (FB)*, Expeditious Retreat, Swift (SC), Obscuring Mist*, Orb of Cold, Lesser (SC/CA), Protection from Good, Shield 2nd Alter Self, Conjure Ice Beast II (FB)*, Detect Thoughts, False Life, Minor Image, Numbing Sphere (FB) 3rd Conjure Ice Beast III (FB)*, Control Temperature (FB), Dispel Magic, Dragonskin (SC/DC), Mage Armor Greater (SC), Sleet Storm* 4th Flight of the Dragon (SC/DC), Invisibility, Greater, Voice of the Dragon (SC/DC) 5th Dominate Person, Flesh to Ice (FB), Wall of Ice* 6th Freezing Fog (SC) *: Bonus known spells (Draconic Legacy or Frost Mage) _________________________________________ Abilities Str 9, Dex 16(18), Con 16, Int 14, Wis 9, Chr 19(21) SQ Storm Vision (WoL), Winter Embrace (WoL) FeatsDraconic Breath (CA), Draconic Heritage, White Dragon (CA), Draconic Legacy (CA), Draconic Power (CA), Draconic Skin (CA), Frozen Magic (FB), Least Legacy, Frostburn's Wrath (WoL)*, Piercing Cold (FB)* *: Bonus Feat SkillsBluff +18, Concentration +17, Diplomacy +9, Disguise +9, Gather Information +7, Intimidate +9, Know, Arcana +14, Know, Geog +3, Spellcraft +18, Use Magic Device +14 Possesions Amulet of Natural Armor +1, Circlet of Persuasion, Cloack of Charisma +2, Gloves of Dexterity +2, Ring of Protection +1, Vest of Resistance +2 _________________________________________ Tactics She always has Mage Armor, Greater and False Life in effect.
When possible, she buffs with the following spells (in order of priority: Shield, Invisibility, Greater, Dragonskin (Red), Flight of the Dragon, Control Temp (to take advantage of Frozen Magic), Protection from Good.
Prefered tactics: Round 1: Freezing Fog Round 2: Encase opponents in the Freezing Fog behind a Wall of Ice Round 3+: Buff with the spells listed above until her opponents free themselves (if she didn't already have time to prepare). She can also summon Ice Beasts to slow down the party (and she can blast them with impunity as they'll be immune to her cold spells and breath weapon). Round Whatever + Then hit them with a combo of high level Draconic Breath (Reflex), Flesh to Ice (Fort), Dominate Person (Will), and Frostburn's Wrath's attack options.
Anyone that casts Protect from Energy cold can be dealt with via the Piercing Cold Metamagic Feat.
She can retreat with: Round 1: Expeditious Retreat, Swift, Invisibility, Greater (if necessary otherwise double move), Move Action to get as far away as possible. Round 2: Flight of the Dragon and get the heck out of there. | | Have: Cat; Want: Storm Giant Champion of Anything Dragonlance Before trading, please check the Disputed Trades Thread | |
|  Lab Monkey Commander
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 | | 01/16/2006 4:02 PM |
| | Now what mini to use for her? I'm thinking the Evermeet Wizard: She can afford to be scantily clad as she's pretty much immune to the effects of cold through the Frost Mage PrC and Frostburn's Wrath + she has uber Natural Armor (Frost Mage and Draconic Skin + the Dragonskin spell OR her Amulet of Nat Armor). | | Have: Cat; Want: Storm Giant Champion of Anything Dragonlance Before trading, please check the Disputed Trades Thread | |
| dagonet Sergeant
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 | | 01/16/2006 5:02 PM |
| Now now, Lab Monkey, you know that you simply MUST use a Silver Sorcerer(ess). [:p]
If nothing else it'll spur your PC's to underestimate such a dangerous foe. . . | | "People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people."
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| IanB Commander
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 | | 01/16/2006 6:42 PM |
| Applying the half-dragon template would only bump her up +2 CR, might be worth a thought. Then the silver sorcerer mini would be perfect.
The earth shugenja and wizard tactician would repaint well to frosty colors, I'd think. | | Anson on WotC boards | |
|  Sir Bozak The Damned Commander
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 | | 01/16/2006 7:39 PM |
| | She sounds like a tough one. I bet it will be a great battle :) | | Please donate BLOOD at http://www.monstersgame.co.uk/ac=vid&vid=11018554 Champion Of Kaz the Minotaur Knight of ALL Draconians. Squire Of ALL Constructs The number ONE fanatic Of Dread Guards ! I own 66 !!! And the GMR1 !!! 119 completed trades so far...NB called shot: Medusa | |
| Can of the Cave Beer Commander
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 | | 01/16/2006 10:27 PM |
| In all honesty, I'd probably use the Healer mini--If you've got the time, just repaint her a bit. Mina might not be too bad, either.
I like that you've used WoL in her creation. I've been curious to see how some of the more experienced players/DMs have been integrating that book. | | Champion of the Werewolf Lord, Knight of Anything Duergar, and Squire of Things Gnollish List reset with the start of previews for each new set...got Chainmail®? | |
|  Lab Monkey Commander
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 | | 01/16/2006 10:39 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by A Can of the Cave Beer I like that you've used WoL in her creation. I've been curious to see how some of the more experienced players/DMs have been integrating that book.
Thanks. I'm giving it a try on some bad guys before I introduce a bunch of Legacy Items to my next campaign. I think it's worth it, but a little playtesting will tell me for sure.
She takes a -1 to Caster Level, -1 Saves, -1 Skill Checks and loses 1 3rd level spell slot for the Least Legacy Powers (she can't afford the Lesser Legacy Powers yet). For that she gets an energy substituted (cold) Fireball 1/week, energy substituted (cold) Lightning Bolt 1/day, Ice Spike 3/day, and can function very well in cold environments with a bunch of bonuses. The penalties are real, but I don't think they're debilitating. The Caster Level and Saves concerns me the most; we'll see if she fails any critical saves by 1 point. | | Have: Cat; Want: Storm Giant Champion of Anything Dragonlance Before trading, please check the Disputed Trades Thread | |
|  Lab Monkey Commander
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 | | 01/16/2006 11:02 PM |
| Thanks for the mini suggestions. I'd really like something that indicates she's sinister and powerful. Mina, the Ghaele Eldarin, Evermeet Wizard, Earth Shugenja, and Wizard Tactician are all good possibilities. The Silver Sorcerer (who I think is male btw) or Healer aren't too bad either. Even Armaril, Adventurer (I know, he's male too) or the upcoming Inspired Lieutenant might work.
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| ilarue Underboss
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 | | 01/17/2006 9:15 AM |
| | My vote goes for the inspired lieutenant, but not sure what your time table is like. | | Quis custodiet ipsos custodes--Who will gaurd the guards? Champion of the Commoner Mob Leader | |
|  Lab Monkey Commander
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 | | 01/17/2006 10:08 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by ilarue
My vote goes for the inspired lieutenant, but not sure what your time table is like.
That's what I'm starting to think as well. Once you get past the armor, she's pretty much perfect. The Ghaele Eladrin is a close runner up. | | Have: Cat; Want: Storm Giant Champion of Anything Dragonlance Before trading, please check the Disputed Trades Thread | |
|  Sir Bozak The Damned Commander
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 | | 01/17/2006 10:50 AM |
| | I would go with Mina, she looks cute and deadly. The Inspired Lieutenant looks like a warrior from what we can make out of that picture. I also think the Silver Sorceror looks female and Aramil remains a mystery... | | Please donate BLOOD at http://www.monstersgame.co.uk/ac=vid&vid=11018554 Champion Of Kaz the Minotaur Knight of ALL Draconians. Squire Of ALL Constructs The number ONE fanatic Of Dread Guards ! I own 66 !!! And the GMR1 !!! 119 completed trades so far...NB called shot: Medusa | |
| devasque Sergeant
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 | | 01/17/2006 2:29 PM |
| | Interesting read as I've tossed picking up the WoL book but havn't tipped my wallet as of yet. The Inspired mini sounds like it would make a great proxy. If you're so inclined to paint one with white highlights I think that would be even better. | | You see! There ARE others out there just like me. What? Why are laughing? | |
| Darastrix Maekrix dariustad Warlord
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 | | 01/19/2006 3:38 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by Sir Bozak The Damned
I would go with Mina, she looks cute and deadly. The Inspired Lieutenant looks like a warrior from what we can make out of that picture. I also think the Silver Sorceror looks female and Aramil remains a mystery...
The problem with using Mina: It's a DragonLance campaign. I usually avoid using a setting-specific unique as a proxy when the game/campaign is based in that world. It keeps the confusion out of it. Someone else in the group is bound to know enough about DL and seen LM's minis to know Mina when they see it. | | Trade & talk in real time on IRC! SERVER: irc.psionics.net CHANNEL: #maxminis SOFTWARE: PC | PC (free) | MAC
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| Darastrix Maekrix dariustad Warlord
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 | | 01/19/2006 3:45 AM |
| LM: This character could easily benefit from the Dragon Breath spell from the Draconomicon. It's 3rd level and would let her set a breath weapon as needed, even of a different energy type. [)]
It would give her flavor and an alternate in case the players think she can just dish out cold damage. However, I don't know the limitations of Frost Mage since I don't own Frostburn.
Just an idea. | | Trade & talk in real time on IRC! SERVER: irc.psionics.net CHANNEL: #maxminis SOFTWARE: PC | PC (free) | MAC
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|  Custom Title WakeXX Warlord
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 | | 01/19/2006 7:54 AM |
| | Sounds cool,let us know how the battle goes! | | | |
|  Lab Monkey Commander
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 | | 01/21/2006 5:41 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by dariustad
LM: This character could easily benefit from the Dragon Breath spell from the Draconomicon. It's 3rd level and would let her set a breath weapon as needed, even of a different energy type. [)]
It would give her flavor and an alternate in case the players think she can just dish out cold damage. However, I don't know the limitations of Frost Mage since I don't own Frostburn.
Just an idea.
I've thought very seriously about this. My orignial build included this spell. I like the spell a lot, but the range absolutely stinks. The effects are only 15' cones or 30' lines (at least in the Spell Compendium, I didn't recheck the Draconomicon).
Also, with her piercing cold feat, in many cases she can bypass energy immunity to cold effects. | | Have: Cat; Want: Storm Giant Champion of Anything Dragonlance Before trading, please check the Disputed Trades Thread | |
| Darastrix Maekrix dariustad Warlord
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 | | 01/21/2006 6:43 PM |
| Oh, the "My cold is colder than cold" feat of uber cheese. [:P]
Still, she would qualify for the "Enlarge Breath" metabreath feat. This will even work with that spell. | | Trade & talk in real time on IRC! SERVER: irc.psionics.net CHANNEL: #maxminis SOFTWARE: PC | PC (free) | MAC
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| Mushroom King Thor Underboss
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 | | 01/21/2006 8:01 PM |
| I pictured the Champion of Elistrie (SP?) mini for this gal...
Not sure why. The white and blue and lack of clothes make it seem an Ice Princess Mage something...... | | Cheers !! ----THOR (Atlanta GA) Kauke@Juno.com (E-Mail me for a current Trade List) www.maxminis.com/hwlist.asp?user=Thor
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|  Lab Monkey Commander
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 | | 01/24/2006 5:16 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by dariustad
Oh, the "My cold is colder than cold" feat of uber cheese. [:P]
That's the one! She gets it for free.
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Still, she would qualify for the "Enlarge Breath" metabreath feat. This will even work with that spell.
Really? I need to reread the feats from the Draconomicon. | | Have: Cat; Want: Storm Giant Champion of Anything Dragonlance Before trading, please check the Disputed Trades Thread | |
| Darastrix Maekrix dariustad Warlord
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 | | 01/24/2006 5:33 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Lab Monkey
quote: Originally posted by dariustad
Oh, the "My cold is colder than cold" feat of uber cheese. [:P]
That's the one! She gets it for free.
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Still, she would qualify for the "Enlarge Breath" metabreath feat. This will even work with that spell.
Really? I need to reread the feats from the Draconomicon.
Really! [:)]
The requirement for the feat is Con 13 and breath weapon. The spell would give her a breath weapon. Therefore, she could apply the feat to it. One way to really make use of this feat and spell is in conjuction with Extend Spell. And, since it's 3rd level, a lesser rod of metamagic extend would work. | | Trade & talk in real time on IRC! SERVER: irc.psionics.net CHANNEL: #maxminis SOFTWARE: PC | PC (free) | MAC
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|  Lab Monkey Commander
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 | | 01/25/2006 10:57 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by dariustad The requirement for the feat is Con 13 and breath weapon.
Would this work on her Draconic Breath feat as well? Somehow I don't think so because that breath weapon is useable every round. | | Have: Cat; Want: Storm Giant Champion of Anything Dragonlance Before trading, please check the Disputed Trades Thread | |
| Darastrix Maekrix dariustad Warlord
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 | | 01/25/2006 4:05 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Lab Monkey
quote: Originally posted by dariustad The requirement for the feat is Con 13 and breath weapon.
Would this work on her Draconic Breath feat as well? Somehow I don't think so because that breath weapon is useable every round.
Yes. It would add the same delay of rounds (1 round) before she could use it again. That's it. It would allow her to remain mobile between breath weapons to maximize their use.
The requirement is a breath weapon. When you use the feat to create a breath weapon, the character has a breath weapon at that moment; therefore, she could apply Enlarge Breath.
Basically, with the Draconic Breath and Dragon breath spells, she would constantly have breath weapons to keep the party at bay. [)] That, and the Dragon Breath spell would be affected by Piercing Cold. | | Trade & talk in real time on IRC! SERVER: irc.psionics.net CHANNEL: #maxminis SOFTWARE: PC | PC (free) | MAC
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