The Defenestrator AesophDarkfable Warlord
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 | | 01/17/2006 11:51 PM |
| | Didn't read it cover to cover, but after a solid skim, its solid. The kobold stuff is top notch and is almost cool enough to be a book into itself, the rest I could do without actually, but it makes me want to play a kobold :) Also has a few kobolds that I'd love to get minis of! | | Im out- find me on Hordelings if you want to chat. | |
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 Lab Monkey Commander
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 | | 01/18/2006 1:32 AM |
| | I'm pretty jazzed about this book. I can't wait to see the new draconic feats (which I'm a big fan of, see my draconic sorceress below). Can you give us any previews of what the new draconic feats look like? Any modifications to the old? | | Have: Cat; Want: Storm Giant Champion of Anything Dragonlance Before trading, please check the Disputed Trades Thread | |
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reezel Sergeant
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 | | 01/18/2006 8:06 AM |
| | This should be in the mail and on it's way to me today. Can't wait. | | Champion of the Beholder and Beholderkin
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The Defenestrator AesophDarkfable Warlord
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 | | 01/18/2006 1:42 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Lab Monkey
I'm pretty jazzed about this book. I can't wait to see the new draconic feats (which I'm a big fan of, see my draconic sorceress below). Can you give us any previews of what the new draconic feats look like? Any modifications to the old?
I only brough the PGE to the office, Ill give some examples from home tonight though. They seem pretty cool, as I said, the kobold stuff is fantastic, and it has some nice stuff for making baddies. One interesting twist (and im not sure if I like it) is a new subtype on kobold (and all the other races included) called dragonblood. So kobolds are humanoid (dragonblood, reptilian) | | Im out- find me on Hordelings if you want to chat. | |
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MightyEinherjar Sergeant
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 | | 01/19/2006 12:00 AM |
| | I enjoyed the picture of the kobold leaping into the air sending the ogre flying with a smack. | | Champion of the Aspect of Tempus | |
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Darastrix Maekrix dariustad Warlord
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 | | 01/19/2006 3:29 AM |
| | Heh, After I saw the January preview, I knew I had to have this book. It's been ordered (stupid buy.com and charging shipping on pre-orders. I beat them! Ha!) and is en route. [:D] | | Trade & talk in real time on IRC! SERVER: irc.psionics.net CHANNEL: #maxminis SOFTWARE: PC | PC (free) | MAC
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MightyEinherjar Sergeant
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 | | 01/19/2006 11:40 AM |
| Like I said, when i was skiming in the store, this picture was a book-seller.
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 Sir Bozak The Damned Commander
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 | | 01/19/2006 12:38 PM |
| | Definitely a must-have book from the sound of it. Anything about Draconians in there ? | | Please donate BLOOD at http://www.monstersgame.co.uk/ac=vid&vid=11018554 Champion Of Kaz the Minotaur Knight of ALL Draconians. Squire Of ALL Constructs The number ONE fanatic Of Dread Guards ! I own 66 !!! And the GMR1 !!! 119 completed trades so far...NB called shot: Medusa | |
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reezel Sergeant
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 | | 01/19/2006 1:24 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Sir Bozak The Damned
Definitely a must-have book from the sound of it. Anything about Draconians in there ?
Nope. You need to go look at the dragonlance stuff for any info on them. | | Champion of the Beholder and Beholderkin
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 Sir Bozak The Damned Commander
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 | | 01/19/2006 2:13 PM |
| | Thanks, but sadly Dragonlance 3.5 only mentions the Baaz and Kapak draconians and not the two major draconians, the Aurak and the Syvak that I am hoping make it into 3.5 as monsters and as miniatures. | | Please donate BLOOD at http://www.monstersgame.co.uk/ac=vid&vid=11018554 Champion Of Kaz the Minotaur Knight of ALL Draconians. Squire Of ALL Constructs The number ONE fanatic Of Dread Guards ! I own 66 !!! And the GMR1 !!! 119 completed trades so far...NB called shot: Medusa | |
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reezel Sergeant
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 | | 01/19/2006 2:17 PM |
| | I know they statted out all 5 draconian races. I think it was in the Dragonlance Campaign Setting, but it not it was either in Age of Mortals or the Bestiary of Krynn. | | Champion of the Beholder and Beholderkin
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 Lab Monkey Commander
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 | | 01/19/2006 3:43 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Sir Bozak The Damned
Thanks, but sadly Dragonlance 3.5 only mentions the Baaz and Kapak draconians and not the two major draconians, the Aurak and the Syvak that I am hoping make it into 3.5 as monsters and as miniatures.
The DLCS only deals with Baaz and Kapaks as PC races. However, all 5 Draconians are indeed in the Monsters section of the DLCS. I believe Noble Draconians are in the Bestiary of Krynn.
Bozak Draconians were done as PC races in a web suppliment. You can find that right here: Bozak Draconian PCs | | Have: Cat; Want: Storm Giant Champion of Anything Dragonlance Before trading, please check the Disputed Trades Thread | |
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Darastrix Maekrix dariustad Warlord
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 | | 01/19/2006 11:33 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Lab Monkey
quote: Originally posted by Sir Bozak The Damned
Thanks, but sadly Dragonlance 3.5 only mentions the Baaz and Kapak draconians and not the two major draconians, the Aurak and the Syvak that I am hoping make it into 3.5 as monsters and as miniatures.
The DLCS only deals with Baaz and Kapaks as PC races. However, all 5 Draconians are indeed in the Monsters section of the DLCS. I believe Noble Draconians are in the Bestiary of Krynn.
Bozak Draconians were done as PC races in a web suppliment. You can find that right here: Bozak Draconian PCs
Yep, this is where they can be found! Can't wait for the Bestiary of Krynn revision due out this summer. I missed the first one, but I WILL get this one! | | Trade & talk in real time on IRC! SERVER: irc.psionics.net CHANNEL: #maxminis SOFTWARE: PC | PC (free) | MAC
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Wayne Underboss
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 | | 01/20/2006 1:19 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by MightyEinherjar Like I said, when i was skiming in the store, this picture was a book-seller.
And the caption:
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 Sir Bozak The Damned Commander
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 | | 01/20/2006 11:09 AM |
| Thanks Lab Monkey, I must have read too fast. An Aurak would have a pretty high ELCS as a PC, hehe :) Great news that they are making a "Bestiary Of Krynn" 3.5, Thanks Dariustad :) | | Please donate BLOOD at http://www.monstersgame.co.uk/ac=vid&vid=11018554 Champion Of Kaz the Minotaur Knight of ALL Draconians. Squire Of ALL Constructs The number ONE fanatic Of Dread Guards ! I own 66 !!! And the GMR1 !!! 119 completed trades so far...NB called shot: Medusa | |
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reezel Sergeant
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 | | 01/20/2006 11:21 AM |
| | It's actually been out for a couple of years now. Go ahead to dragonlance.com. They should have a list of the available books put out for 3.5 by the company currently working on it. | | Champion of the Beholder and Beholderkin
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 Sir Bozak The Damned Commander
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 | | 01/20/2006 12:00 PM |
| | Thank you reezel. Am I to assume most campaign settings have a website as well ? | | Please donate BLOOD at http://www.monstersgame.co.uk/ac=vid&vid=11018554 Champion Of Kaz the Minotaur Knight of ALL Draconians. Squire Of ALL Constructs The number ONE fanatic Of Dread Guards ! I own 66 !!! And the GMR1 !!! 119 completed trades so far...NB called shot: Medusa | |
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 Lab Monkey Commander
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 | | 01/20/2006 12:04 PM |
| Here's a list of all current Dragonlance products. The campaign setting was released about the time 3.5 came out, so most things should be 3.5 compliant (or very nearly so).
http://www.dragonlance.com/products/ | | Have: Cat; Want: Storm Giant Champion of Anything Dragonlance Before trading, please check the Disputed Trades Thread | |
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 Sir Bozak The Damned Commander
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 | | 01/20/2006 1:30 PM |
| | Thank you once more, LM :) | | Please donate BLOOD at http://www.monstersgame.co.uk/ac=vid&vid=11018554 Champion Of Kaz the Minotaur Knight of ALL Draconians. Squire Of ALL Constructs The number ONE fanatic Of Dread Guards ! I own 66 !!! And the GMR1 !!! 119 completed trades so far...NB called shot: Medusa | |
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Count Dooku Commander
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 | | 01/20/2006 1:59 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Lab Monkey
Here's a list of all current Dragonlance products. The campaign setting was released about the time 3.5 came out, so most things should be 3.5 compliant (or very nearly so).
http://www.dragonlance.com/products/
So if the Besiary of Krynn is already 3.5 ....
Whats the revision all about? (sorry about goin off topic) | | Champion of the Skulk Vindicated Champion of the Twig Blight | |
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reezel Sergeant
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 | | 01/20/2006 3:02 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Count Dooku So if the Besiary of Krynn is already 3.5 ....
Whats the revision all about? (sorry about goin off topic)
I hadn't heard about that either. I am interested in what the intent of it is. | | Champion of the Beholder and Beholderkin
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 Lab Monkey Commander
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 | | 01/20/2006 3:17 PM |
| There were tons of errors in Bestairy of Krynn and the Age of Mortals books (the table of contents in AoM is embarassingly bad). As a result there have been many calls for revised edtitions.
Also, Bestairy of Krynn and Towers of High Sorcery (which is a GREAT book) are both out of print and extremely hard to find. So they are reprinting both and correcting the many errors of the first BoK.
Fortunately, they published some pretty good web errata for BoK so those that already own the book shouldn't need to buy a second copy. | | Have: Cat; Want: Storm Giant Champion of Anything Dragonlance Before trading, please check the Disputed Trades Thread | |
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 Sir Bozak The Damned Commander
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 | | 01/20/2006 3:32 PM |
| | This will go on my must-buy books. I was also less than impressed by the art in the original BoK and assume they will change them as well... | | Please donate BLOOD at http://www.monstersgame.co.uk/ac=vid&vid=11018554 Champion Of Kaz the Minotaur Knight of ALL Draconians. Squire Of ALL Constructs The number ONE fanatic Of Dread Guards ! I own 66 !!! And the GMR1 !!! 119 completed trades so far...NB called shot: Medusa | |
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Darastrix Maekrix dariustad Warlord
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 | | 01/20/2006 5:29 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Sir Bozak The Damned
This will go on my must-buy books. I was also less than impressed by the art in the original BoK and assume they will change them as well...
Doubtful. They don't have the largest art budget (like WotC), so the art will probably be the same. The data will be updated. | | Trade & talk in real time on IRC! SERVER: irc.psionics.net CHANNEL: #maxminis SOFTWARE: PC | PC (free) | MAC
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Testament Underboss
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 | | 01/20/2006 10:35 PM |
| Interesting book in Races of the Dragon, but even more absurdly overpowered than Races of Stone. See some of the new Power Word spells, such as Power Word: Weaken, or perhaps Power Word: Maladroit and Disable.
Then there's the Dracolexi, THE most insane sorceror PrC ever printed. It has INFINITE SPELLS, that's right, INFINITE FREAKING SPELLS thanks to the word "refresh". It casts a spell with a Verbal component, it gets the highest level slot its used back! Throw in some of the Metamagic boosting feats available in this book, and you have part of a conspiracy to make everyone play Kobold Sorcs, especially now that 1 feat can give them the Dragon type, with its SWEET set of immunities.
Insanity. And it doesn't even have a section on Kobold names and language with a translation of Mep Merk Merk Mep! | | Support awesome games: Play Hecatomb!
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CarrionCrawler Underboss
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 | | 01/23/2006 12:46 AM |
| I have a question after reading my copy...
Can a warforged become a dragonborn? Mechanically, I would think so, but they're a race of constructs...Just curious... | | Vindicated Night Below Champion of the Digestor!!! Knight of the OozesIcons called shot: Angry MobThe stink of rotten meat surrounds this multilegged creature with a segmented, 10-foot long body. Eight writhing tentacles protrude from its head, growing directly from below its clacking mandibles and tooth-filled maw. | |
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The Mighty jai Commander
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 | | 01/23/2006 12:12 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Testament
especially now that 1 feat can give them the Dragon type, with its SWEET set of immunities.
Our new DM is only allowing 1 party miscreant, and since most of the players are new (or new to the group) i decided to saddle up with a kobold. I assume you are talking Dragon Wrought? I read it that the only immunities you get are Sleep and Paralysis. I will look again. While your type changes from Humanoid (DragonBlood, Reptilian) to Dragon (Reptilian), i think you only get those two immunities. Granted this is a "gateway" feat to really cool stuff (like wings at 3rd level) ...
I am personally thinking Scout 1, Rogue 1, Sorcerer 3, Dragonheart Mage [:)] (I didn't full read the Dracolexi, but i will tonight!) | | | |
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mordantos Underboss
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 | | 01/23/2006 1:03 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Testament
you have part of a conspiracy to make everyone play Kobold Sorcs
Hrm. Have anyone noticed the prices of ab38 Kobold Sorcerer rising?
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Testament Underboss
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 | | 01/23/2006 11:21 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by jai
Our new DM is only allowing 1 party miscreant, and since most of the players are new (or new to the group) i decided to saddle up with a kobold. I assume you are talking Dragon Wrought? I read it that the only immunities you get are Sleep and Paralysis. I will look again. While your type changes from Humanoid (DragonBlood, Reptilian) to Dragon (Reptilian), i think you only get those two immunities. Granted this is a "gateway" feat to really cool stuff (like wings at 3rd level) ...
I am personally thinking Scout 1, Rogue 1, Sorcerer 3, Dragonheart Mage [:)] (I didn't full read the Dracolexi, but i will tonight!)
Also consider that it makes you immune to any of the "person" spells, as you're no longer a humanoid. | | Support awesome games: Play Hecatomb!
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