wolfsbane114
Warrior
327 Posts
    
 | | 04/13/2006 1:21 PM |
| http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3052074,00.html
I dont know if this has been posted before But I thought it was interseting. | |
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reezel
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555 Posts
| | 04/13/2006 3:05 PM |
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Originally posted by wolfsbane114
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3052074,00.html
I dont know if this has been posted before But I thought it was interseting.
Wow...that's all I have to say to that...just wow. | |
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Sulaco
Underboss
1605 Posts
| | 04/13/2006 3:09 PM |
| | Is this new, cos I seem to recall the same story over a year ago? | |
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wolfsbane114
Warrior
327 Posts
| | 04/13/2006 3:13 PM |
| I wasnt sure the date of it I was just googling and came across it.
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nyjastul69
Commander
2710 Posts
Rhode Island
| | 04/13/2006 3:26 PM |
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Originally posted by Sulaco
Is this new, cos I seem to recall the same story over a year ago?
I think this has been posted before, i seem to remember it anyways. Sad, sad, sad. | |
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Count Dooku
Commander
4636 Posts
New York
| | 04/13/2006 4:27 PM |
| Yeah someone did find this and posted it a year ago.
Doesnt make it any less sad.
Doesnt D&D strengthen tactical thinking? | |
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Benimoto
Underboss
1125 Posts
| | 04/13/2006 4:28 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Sulaco
Is this new, cos I seem to recall the same story over a year ago?
Yeah, the date at the end of the story is 2.28.05.
At conventions, I play at tables with a lot of military guys. I remember at Winter Fantasy (which is held right next to the Pentagon) I was at a table with both US and Canadian special forces. At a convention in Dayton there was a group of players from Wright Patterson Air Force Base. | |
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Fearfrost
Sergeant
518 Posts
| | 04/13/2006 5:20 PM |
| | This is also the IDF I imagine their standards for security reasons is what we would consider extreme. Still I can't imagine such a sweeping generalization being accepted by mental health professionals . | |
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wolfsbane114
Warrior
327 Posts
| | 04/13/2006 5:47 PM |
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Doesnt D&D strengthen tactical thinking?
I agree or at the very least promotes creative thinking. I have friends who game and those who dont, It seems like the gamers always seem to have better ideas. | |
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zenthrus
Commander
4836 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 04/13/2006 5:51 PM |
| Another reason not to join the Israel Defense Force (aside from the fact that I'm not from Israel).
I suppose that the next logical step would be to include people who play video games (particularly Halo) since most of the video-gamers I know are far less attached to reality than the D&D gamers I know.
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Stabmastaarson
Sergeant
442 Posts
| | 04/13/2006 7:15 PM |
| I'm in the U.S. Army and I game. Hell, the Army has its own game now...America's Army. Not half bad if you ask me.
There are A LOT of gamers in the Army too. At each Post I've been to there has been at least one RPG/Comic book store in the surrounding town.
In my experience it promotes creative thinking, teamwork and problem solving. All good things! | |
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maijstral
Underboss
2105 Posts
| | 04/13/2006 7:17 PM |
| Lots of our military people play D&D, I have gamed with one for about 6 years he has since moved and told me he now games with a bunch of fellow officers in Kentucky.
If I remember correctly a couple of the people who put out KOTDT were in the military.
There was even a thread in the skirmish forum about some soliders in Iraq asking DDM questions and some of the posters even sent spare minis.
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AesophDarkfable
Warlord
5628 Posts
| | 04/14/2006 1:52 AM |
| | D&D and the army go way back. My dad started playing D&d in the army back in 1983. When you got a bunch of guys with downtime and boredom, D&d happens. This story is weird. If I look at the amount of D&D players I know a large amount (nearly 40% have been military) are military. I dont buy it. | |
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DinoBen
Sergeant
407 Posts
Based outta Games of Berkeley, CA
| | 04/14/2006 1:30 PM |
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Originally posted by Sulaco
Is this new, cos I seem to recall the same story over a year ago?
First I'd just like to ask if someone has run a "Snopes" test on this article to see if it's the real deal and not just a parody.
If it is real, I wonder if they'd adopt a "dont' ask - don't tell" policy. [:)] | |
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orcmonk220
Underboss
1608 Posts
| | 04/14/2006 1:53 PM |
| | Amazing.... Bet they have a secret gaming society goin tho [)] | |
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griffrat
Commander
3506 Posts
| | 04/14/2006 2:08 PM |
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Originally posted by orcmonk220
Amazing.... Bet they have a secret gaming society goin tho [)]
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Zenako
Commander
3468 Posts
| | 04/14/2006 3:35 PM |
| I could understand if for example Zerg was your choice of sides in a conflict. Mass swarming attacks are not the best choice for highly skilled trained units. They will work, but the costs are too high. So perhaps they might have aspects of the various games lurking within their decision matirx or profile. Lets look for the healing kits around the corner. Combat ability being binary, ie up and fully functional, or down and dead. That one soldier could carry his entire platoon and gear back to the medics for healing..and so on.
Seriously, it sounds like they have a profile of personallities that they have determined will not be well suited to certain jobs. I think it probably just happens that the same people attracted to FRP will possess some of those traits, so it becomes a marker trait that is easy to spot and will trigger a closer evaluation and possible rejection. They are not being rejected because they play D&D, but because they are of the mental mindset that happens to also enjoy FRP/D&D type games. | |
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| | 04/14/2006 4:56 PM |
| | My reaction to this a year ago, well it was somewhat less than polite.[:D] | |
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Malin Lug
Sergeant
742 Posts
| | 04/14/2006 5:14 PM |
| | I can say... that as former active duty and past, present and future gamer, that Role Playing is alive and well in all branches of the US military and is not, as a general rule frowned upon. | |
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IanB
Commander
3112 Posts
| | 04/14/2006 6:07 PM |
| | I don't see a downside, personally. I have a hard time imagining that I'd *want* to be stationed in the spots that the IDF considers high security. | |
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ChristopherGroves
Warlord
6093 Posts
| | 04/14/2006 6:12 PM |
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Originally posted by Stabmastaarson
I'm in the U.S. Army and I game. Hell, the Army has its own game now...America's Army. Not half bad if you ask me.
There are A LOT of gamers in the Army too. At each Post I've been to there has been at least one RPG/Comic book store in the surrounding town.
In my experience it promotes creative thinking, teamwork and problem solving. All good things!
Though I will say that the "system" of most miniatures / tactical games are hard for most of my army friends to adapt to after serving. Yes, they understand the concept, but they have a hard time separating reality and game-mechanics in their mind. This alters their perception of odds / probabilities and tactical planning in-game.
Of course, once they are out of theatre for a while they eventually get back into the right (and by that I mean gamer-centric) mindset [)] | |
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Thenameless
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9044 Posts
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| | 04/14/2006 7:41 PM |
| | Interesting. I've always held the Israeli military in very high regard. They've won many conflicts when totally outmanned/outgunned. Somehow, this doesn't seem right though. | |
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madda
Sergeant
714 Posts
| | 04/16/2006 9:59 AM |
| | Again, despite the newspaper article, I have many friends who have classified jobs within the IDF and play D&D. When I was a soldier (it is mandatory in Israel) I was never asked about my D&D gaming habits and never hided them, yet I managed to pass strict security audits. Take this old article with serious cautious. I feel that the issue is more of presentation to the people that checks your background than anything else. If you'll say in your interview that you kill dragons weekly and claim that you live in the Forgotten Realms most people will question your sanity, military personnel included. If you'll put this in proportion, claiming to play with your friends creative and imaginative games that revolve around medieval history no one will raise his brow. As simple as that. The mass hysteria that follows this article simply is simply inadequate IMHO. | |
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Luisjoey
Underboss
1704 Posts
Caracas Venezuela
| | 04/17/2006 7:52 AM |
| Rpg is a game, just that, for free time, a hobby, not a work not a way of life, but many people take it too personal and make it the center of his life, maybe some cases as an obsecion, but that´s not the common case.
Remember that about RPG is know just the bad things like devil adorators that kill persons and those, people don´t know the majority of rpgamers that are common people with different interest and good will.
I guess that we as RPGamers should give a response to society, that RPG is a hobby like footbal, soccer, basebal, chess; but with some complications that makes the game funny, as any hobbie it could give you a escape from the real world (Filled with troubles) and lots of healthy fun.
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Sulaco
Underboss
1605 Posts
| | 04/17/2006 3:05 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Thenameless
Interesting. I've always held the Israeli military in very high regard. They've won many conflicts when totally outmanned/outgunned. Somehow, this doesn't seem right though.
Ignorance and discrimination never does.
What's even stupider is that the military represents the largest occupation-based group of D&D players. In other words there are more military personnel playing D&D than there are player from any other single occupation. | |
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