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04/16/2006 2:16 PM  
OK, first, check out this map: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/mapofweek/city801.jpg

Right, so, what would you use number 4 for? I've looked and looked. It appears to bring nothing to mind. Maybe a market? I dunno. Also, would 7 make a good jail and gaurd post? 8 is another I'm having problems with. I really like this map, and want to use it. It's yjhose few areas I'm struggling with.
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04/16/2006 3:41 PM  
4 could be a bazaar or public square but I would say it's a militia training ground.

7 and 8 could be several small houses, merchant shops or both.
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04/16/2006 3:46 PM  
4 to me says athletic field (jousting) or park.
8 would make a good school, lot's of courtyards for practice.

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04/16/2006 4:31 PM  
I like the marching ground. It could be the court yard/ marching ground between the fortress/castle of 3/5/6

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04/16/2006 6:29 PM  
#4:I would say it is most likly a commons. It would be standard for a medieval town to have a field that was for use by the entire town. It would mostly be used for livestock, but could also be used for other things such as fairs. It was known as a commons because it was common property. In this senario #5 or 6 could be a livery. I would use #2 for uses such as a parade ground and town square. most open areas would serve more than one use.

#8 The only thing that this reminds me of at all is the Roman apartment buildings with the open courtyards. (Maybe some other poster can remember what they were called) They were the basic housing model for most of the population of Rome during the time of the Roman empire.

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04/16/2006 6:52 PM  
Roman apartments didn't have windows or balconies facing the street. The windows and balconies faced the courtyard to keep homes safe from burglars. So these could definitely be roman type apartments.

#4 could be the public market place with #3 being a combination of more permenant businesses and government offices (all that trade needs to be monitered and taxed after all). The central courtyard of #3 are the auction grounds with the two extentions on either side being where you bring the stuff for auction. Perhaps one side is live stock,and in an evil campaign maybe slaves, the other side is bulk food stuff or siezed items.


An alternate use for #3 is a bathhouse, one side is for males the other females and the building and courtyard in the middle a place where they could meet and mingle sort of a high end tavern type thing with an atrium in the middle.

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04/17/2006 2:39 AM  
#4) Looks like a good place for a market/forum/town green. It's not as centralized as #2 so perhaps it's a nobleman's park?

#7) That's a mighty large jail for a town that size. A combined jail and militia/guard barracks seems reasonable.

#8) Seems like a likely place for low-rent housing (i.e. the poor district).

That's an interesting map.

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04/17/2006 5:39 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by zenthrus
That's an interesting map.



That's why I like it!

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04/17/2006 12:11 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by maijstral

Roman apartments didn't have windows or balconies facing the street. The windows and balconies faced the courtyard to keep homes safe from burglars. So these could definitely be roman type apartments.


This is the danger with absolute declarative statements: they are rarely true. We have first-hand accounts of references to windows overlooking the streets, including one of a cow* plummeting from an 8th (yes, eighth) floor window into the street below.

These "courtyards" are called "light wells". Their purpose is to, as the name suggests, allow light into the inner-facing windows. Letting in light was normally their only purpose and they are usually not open to use on the ground level. They also often filled with garbage thrown from windows and had to be mucked out regularly.

*Romans who lived in apartments and owned livestock were often forced to keep their livestock with them.

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04/17/2006 8:39 PM  
quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by maijstral

Roman apartments didn't have windows or balconies facing the street. The windows and balconies faced the courtyard to keep homes safe from burglars. So these could definitely be roman type apartments.


This is the danger with absolute declarative statements: they are rarely true. We have first-hand accounts of references to windows overlooking the streets, including one of a cow* plummeting from an 8th (yes, eighth) floor window into the street below.

These "courtyards" are called "light wells". Their purpose is to, as the name suggests, allow light into the inner-facing windows. Letting in light was normally their only purpose and they are usually not open to use on the ground level. They also often filled with garbage thrown from windows and had to be mucked out regularly.

*Romans who lived in apartments and owned livestock were often forced to keep their livestock with them.



you are right of course, it wasn't meant to be an absolute, I was speaking generally in answer to Orcdoubleax's question about them looking familiar as roman apartments. I never meant it to include all aspects of all dwellings just one observation on why there were courtyards within a building and to tell the truth it was only because it was the most resent thing I saw on HBO's caesar mini series. If I had spent the time to research and think back to college classes I may have come up with a more in-depth analysis but this was just an off the cuff agreement that these did resemble roman apartments.
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