orcmonk220
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 | | 05/11/2006 11:11 AM |
| OK, so me and a friend were discussing this:
I want to make a Minotaur NPC. The MM entry says it starts with 6d8 Hit Dice. Does this mean I add this, and the Con. modifier, to any class level Hit Dice he earns? So, you could be a lvl 1 Minotaur fighter with 6d8+1d10 Hit Dice?
Also, Level Adjustment: I assume, that he's considered a 3rd-level character at first, therefore gaining a feat, yet still listed as 1st level? Or am I completely wrong. Any help would be great.
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Malin Lug
Sergeant
742 Posts
| | 05/11/2006 11:41 AM |
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Originally posted by orcmonk220
OK, so me and a friend were discussing this:
I want to make a Minotaur NPC. The MM entry says it starts with 6d8 Hit Dice. Does this mean I add this, and the Con. modifier, to any class level Hit Dice he earns? So, you could be a lvl 1 Minotaur fighter with 6d8+1d10 Hit Dice?
Also, Level Adjustment: I assume, that he's considered a 3rd-level character at first, therefore gaining a feat, yet still listed as 1st level? Or am I completely wrong. Any help would be great.
Cheers
Chris
There was a long discussion about this a while back when someone wanted to play a minautaur PC. Yes... you do add the racial HD to the class levels. Be sure to add 1 to the challenge rating for each character level that is added. And if you need to figure out an ECL, the minotaur is at a +2. So the ECL for a Minotaur Fighter 3 would be 11 ( 6 racial HD + 2 ECL + 3 Fighter Levels ).
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Sammael
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| | 05/11/2006 11:47 AM |
| | A minotaur character has 6 racial hit dice, and his level adjustment (LA) is +2. So, basically, your 1st level minotaur fighter would have 6d8 + 1d10 + 7xCon modifier hit points, and would be considered a 9th level character (6+2+1). To calculate your ECL, always add your monster hit dice with the LA. | |
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orcmonk220
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orcmonk220
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| | 05/11/2006 12:14 PM |
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Originally posted by Sammael
A minotaur character has 6 racial hit dice, and his level adjustment (LA) is +2. So, basically, your 1st level minotaur fighter would have 6d8 + 1d10 + 7xCon modifier hit points, and would be considered a 9th level character (6+2+1).
OK, so would his improvements be:
4 feats (3 level-based, 1 bonus)
2 ability score improvements
???
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Sammael
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1881 Posts
| | 05/11/2006 12:26 PM |
| -3 feats (1st, 3rd, and 6th level) plus one bonus fighter feat
-no ability improvements (already calculated into minotaur's ability adjustments); you would get an ability improvement at 2nd fighter level (total of 8 HD).
Basically, use your HD to figure out everything except your starting equipment. Use ECL to figure out starting equipment. | |
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Thenameless
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| | 05/11/2006 8:14 PM |
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Originally posted by Sammael
-3 feats (1st, 3rd, and 6th level) plus one bonus fighter feat
-no ability improvements (already calculated into minotaur's ability adjustments); you would get an ability improvement at 2nd fighter level (total of 8 HD).
Basically, use your HD to figure out everything except your starting equipment. Use ECL to figure out starting equipment.
Thanks for that. It's a lot easier when you look at the last paragraph. | |
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Frederyck
Sneak
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| | 05/12/2006 8:41 AM |
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Originally posted by Sammaelyou would get an ability improvement at 2nd fighter level (total of 8 HD).
Hm, so you get an increased ability when Level Adjustement + Character Level = 4? I always thought you needed four Character Levels to increase an ability score. | |
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Sammael
Underboss
1881 Posts
| | 05/12/2006 9:00 AM |
| | You get an ability increase every 4 HD. For monsters with 4HD or more, ability increases are already figured into the stats. However, once you reach the next HD that is a multiple of 4, you get a new ability increase. | |
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LargeMarmot
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| | 05/22/2006 2:21 AM |
| | Keep in mind you can also break down the minotaur into racial levels if you don't want the NPC to be too high level. The Savage Species book has a full description of it, using the minotaur as an example. | |
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| | 05/22/2006 2:37 AM |
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Originally posted by LargeMarmot
Keep in mind you can also break down the minotaur into racial levels if you don't want the NPC to be too high level. The Savage Species book has a full description of it, using the minotaur as an example.
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