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Originally posted by Lab Monkey

Are there any magic items from the various D&D suppliments that you just will not allow in your campaign?

Personally, I'm not happy with several things from the Arms and Equipment Guide. The one that stands out the most is the Blindfold of True Darkness. For a mere 9,000gp characters gain blindsense and immunity to gaze attacks. It's even cheaper than the Darkvision granting Goggles of the Night (12,000 gp). No thanks.

Any items out there that you've Rule Zeroed out of your campaign?

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Originally posted by Lachlarlan_the_Mad

The blindfold isn't all that powerful.
To use it, you have to actually be wearing it over your eyes, which means the PC using would effectively be blind.

Remember, Blindsense doesn't allow one to negate concealment. Sure, your PC can locate his opponent without penalty, but when he actually makes an attack roll, there's that 50% concealment roll he has to make in order to actually hit.

This slightly more powerful than closing one's eyes and having the Blind-Fight feat.

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Originally posted by Acolyte

I just want to know what the deal is with all the random/magic/item/race/etc. haters on this Forum?? Why are we trying to come up with as many lists as we can for all the things that we can't do and for all the things that we can't have on this fun, exciting, and entirely New World.

Seriously... I know that I'm just a Squire and don't hold much stock; and maybe I'm alone on this one, but I think it's honestly gotten a little Excessive. I, for one, would much rather log on and see some cool new thread introducing a New Area or even a thread commending the hard work and effort put forth by an individual. (that means you Vry)

I understand the need for rules and parameters, but this project is a fantastic outlet for Creativity. We shouldn't be so quick to put a lid on it. After all, Dark Sun has already been done once.

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Originally posted by Lab Monkey

Another magic item that I'm hesitant to allow is the animated shield. Seems to be one of those items that lets you benefit form both fighting with a two handed weapon and having a shield. It's also a kind of cheesy concept IMHO.

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Originally posted by Benimoto

Items that I've seen as problems (I've usually modified the items, instead of banned them):

Strand of Prayer Beads (DMG): specifically, the bead of karma. Using this, ioun stones, and the Divine Spell Power feat (CD) you can use the holy word spell to paralyse or kill enemies fairly easily. The bead's also useful for getting an extra +1 out of greater magic weapon and magic vestment.

Animated Shield (DMG): Silly-looking, but cheesy.

Nightstick (Libris Mortis): Yeah, let's buy 20 and then Divine Metamagic (quicken) all our spells!

Magebane weapon enchantment (Complete Arcane): At higher levels, what creatures don't have any spell-like abilities? This should probably be +2 like Holy instead of +1 like Gnoll Bane.

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Originally posted by Lachlarlan_the_Mad
Indeed, however the Prayer Beads aren't the problem. Divine Spell Power is the problem. If DSP hadn't ever been written, it wouldn't be an issue.

As for DSP + Holy Word/Dictum, the only reason I don't use that combo in our home campaign, is because I would end up killing/maiming half the party regardless of which I use. Half are non-lawful, the other half is non-good.

I responded to the Animated Shield in an above response.

Never encountered a Nightstick, so don't have any issues with it.

And I believe Magebane was erratted at some point making it much harder to add to a weapon.

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Originally posted by Lachlarlan_the_Mad

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Originally posted by Lab Monkey

Are there any magic items from the various D&D suppliments that you just will not allow in your campaign?

Personally, I'm not happy with several things from the Arms and Equipment Guide. The one that stands out the most is the Blindfold of True Darkness. For a mere 9,000gp characters gain blindsense and immunity to gaze attacks. It's even cheaper than the Darkvision granting Goggles of the Night (12,000 gp). No thanks.

Any items out there that you've Rule Zeroed out of your campaign?

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The blindfold isn't all that powerful.
To use it, you have to actually be wearing it over your eyes, which means the PC using would effectively be blind.

Remember, Blindsense doesn't allow one to negate concealment. Sure, your PC can locate his opponent without penalty, but when he actually makes an attack roll, there's that 50% concealment roll he has to make in order to actually hit.

This slightly more powerful than closing one's eyes and having the Blind-Fight feat.

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Originally posted by madda

I think that the Blindfold of True Darkness is simply under priced and not broken per ce. There's a 3rd spell that grants blind sight out to 30' and in effect 1 minute per level. Therefore using the usual price calculation for such an item from the DMG, you get 5(CL)x3(SL)x2000x2(min/lvl) = 60000 gp.
If you really want the 60' range then you have to use the enlarged version of the spell which bumps it to spell level 4th and the cost becomes 7x4x2000x2 = 112000 gp
I'm sure that using these costs it doesn't seem broken any more.

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Originally posted by Lachlarlan_the_Mad

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Originally posted by Lab Monkey

Another magic item that I'm hesitant to allow is the animated shield. Seems to be one of those items that lets you benefit form both fighting with a two handed weapon and having a shield. It's also a kind of cheesy concept IMHO.

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Again, that is the main purpose of the Animated shield quality (and one of the main reasons the benefit is a +3 bonus.)

It doesn't have any other purpose (that I can see) other than allowing PCs and NPCs with weapons in both hands to benefit from a shield bonus to AC.

Again, it is important to remember that all penalties still apply while using an Animated shield.

A Wizard using an Animated Tower Shield is at -12 to hit with all attack rolls, including ranged touch, touch, and ray spells.

Whereas a Fighter would be at the standard -2 attack penalty from using the shield.

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Originally posted by Benimoto

Items that I've seen as problems (I've usually modified the items, instead of banned them):

Strand of Prayer Beads (DMG): specifically, the bead of karma. Using this, ioun stones, and the Divine Spell Power feat (CD) you can use the holy word spell to paralyse or kill enemies fairly easily. The bead's also useful for getting an extra +1 out of greater magic weapon and magic vestment.

Animated Shield (DMG): Silly-looking, but cheesy.

Nightstick (Libris Mortis): Yeah, let's buy 20 and then Divine Metamagic (quicken) all our spells!

Magebane weapon enchantment (Complete Arcane): At higher levels, what creatures don't have any spell-like abilities? This should probably be +2 like Holy instead of +1 like Gnoll Bane.

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Originally posted by Richard II

One thing that bugs me is weapons enchanted with opposite energies. People wielding weapons that are both flaming and freezing for example. It just seems weird.

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Originally posted by Lab Monkey

Any items out there that you've Rule Zeroed out of your campaign?

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Originally posted by Richard II

One thing that bugs me is weapons enchanted with opposite energies. People wielding weapons that are both flaming and freezing for example. It just seems weird.

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IIRC, that's not allowed. I seem to remember reading something that stated opposite energy effects cancelled each other out. I'd have to look that up when I get home to be sure.

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Originally posted by nyjastul69
I know that some DM's house rule that you can't have opposite energy effects, but I've never come across this as a core rule. Is it addressed in a FAQ or errata somewhere?

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Originally posted by Richard II

One thing that bugs me is weapons enchanted with opposite energies. People wielding weapons that are both flaming and freezing for example. It just seems weird.

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IIRC, that's not allowed. I seem to remember reading something that stated opposite energy effects cancelled each other out. I'd have to look that up when I get home to be sure.

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I know that some DM's house rule that you can't have opposite energy effects, but I've never come across this as a core rule. Is it addressed in a FAQ or errata somewhere?

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Originally posted by Sammael

There aren't any tomes that give inherent stat bonuses IMC. I just consider that... too cheesy. On the other hand, inherent bonuses from wish spells stack, but the maximum inherent bonus per level is limited (and you can never raise any one ability by more than +1 per level using this method).

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