Jason:

You wrote in the other thread about some of the other upcoming releases for this line.  I'm looking forward to them all, but I'm curious about how the distribution will work in them.

Will there continue to be 2 potions 2 scrolls 1 weapon, etc. in each pack, but there will be X number of topical cards in each set?  Is there a "slot" dedicated to these cards, or are they intermixed with standard items?  Are there ANY standard items, or JUST the Thematic ones?

Thanks again!

Pat E

[QUOTE]dj-chuckles wrote
Answer:

Tokkens!

www.tokkens.com
[/QUOTE]

BZZZZZ.  Wrong!

Tokkens:  More expensive, Not made for customization, reveal to much to characters (or can't be handed out when treasure is captured), have rarities.  Of course they do make excellent coasters...

I think I made my opinion pretty well known in the Tokken's thread over in DDM General.

Pat E

Jason:

You wrote in the other thread about some of the other upcoming releases for this line.  I'm looking forward to them all, but I'm curious about how the distribution will work in them.

Will there continue to be 2 potions 2 scrolls 1 weapon, etc. in each pack, but there will be X number of topical cards in each set?  Is there a "slot" dedicated to these cards, or are they intermixed with standard items?  Are there ANY standard items, or JUST the Thematic ones?

Thanks again!

Pat E

Okay, damn you with your shameless product advertising!  Now you have my interest. I'm so weak   

Sky

Okay i'm officially interested, I saw the cards briefly at Gencon but was paying more attention to the map packs.

 This might sound like a dumb question but are they in gaming stores?I would like to pick up a few and see how they work at the gaming table this week. I don't remember seeing them but then again I wasn't really looking either.

Okay i'm officially interested, I saw the cards briefly at Gencon but was paying more attention to the map packs.

 This might sound like a dumb question but are they in gaming stores?I would like to pick up a few and see how they work at the gaming table this week. I don't remember seeing them but then again I wasn't really looking either.

Okay, damn you with your shameless product advertising!  Now you have my interest. I'm so weak   

Sky

Well I cracked open 13 boosters, and my "starter" deck.  I'm very pleased.  I also found 1 inch round removable (i.e. post-it type glue) stickers at Staples that I will be using on the scrolls and potions to keep those cards in good condition.

Great assortment of Art, I look forward to completing my set (Looks like I'm short about 15-18 cards after 13 packs).  The beauty is that getting doubles of those potions and scrolls didn't bother me in hte least!

Pat E

sigh

So many nice products, so little money.

On the matter of clear sleeves... your idea (Harneloot) is most probably the best. However, for some reason, i've always liked manipulating paper cards, as opposed to plastic sleeves. I can't see a specific reason, really. 10-12 years ago, when i was a Magic player, my friends used to protect their magic cards with plastic sleeves. I think i was the only one not doing it. I don't like the card as much when under plastic: the shine, the reflections, the image not quite as clear under certain light; then there's how plastic is not really comfortable, whereas paper is.  Man, i'm really picky, aren't i? Hehe  (i still love the smiley with glasses)

Sky

No, i hear you....and i agree ultimately.....

I never convered my magic cards either, and i've got a lot of beat up valuable cards becasue of it - but damnit, i don't like the feel of plastic either (and they were impossible to shuffle whne in sleeves.)

Maybe I'll just have to buy enough to permenantly label each one seomthing?

Oh Bother!

Jason, take this unsolicited opinion for what it's worth, but I REALLY would have liked to buy into these - I just can't pull the trigger.

It's really too bad that Paizo bought into the "minimal SKU" policy.  I would buy packs of these for the scrolls and potions (probably a display box of each), but I don't need that many weapons and certainly don't need that many armors (the same can be said of other slotted items, but at least they are switched out by players more often).  If it's a "Paizo only" thing for the specific item packs, I'll probably skip due to added S/H costs.

As another observation, the starter pack I "found" at the big LGS wouldn't be very tempting if I didn't already know what was in there.  I say "found" because of the fact that they had thrown it in with the second tier card games instead of putting it by their RPG supplements.  When it's side by side with a game like Bang! (as an example, since that's why I was looking in that section) it doesn't "feel" like it's worth as much.  I know "wasted" packaging costs money, but perception is reality when it comes to an impulse buy (which is probably what 80% of your FLGS sales will most likely be).

Of course, maybe you're working on something that will awe me enough to buy into them anyway.  If so - get back to work!

It's really too bad that Paizo bought into the "minimal SKU" policy.  I would buy packs of these for the scrolls and potions (probably a display box of each), but I don't need that many weapons and certainly don't need that many armors (the same can be said of other slotted items, but at least they are switched out by players more often).  If it's a "Paizo only" thing for the specific item packs, I'll probably skip due to added S/H costs.

As another observation, the starter pack I "found" at the big LGS wouldn't be very tempting if I didn't already know what was in there.  I say "found" because of the fact that they had thrown it in with the second tier card games instead of putting it by their RPG supplements.  When it's side by side with a game like Bang! (as an example, since that's why I was looking in that section) it doesn't "feel" like it's worth as much.  I know "wasted" packaging costs money, but perception is reality when it comes to an impulse buy (which is probably what 80% of your FLGS sales will most likely be).

Of course, maybe you're working on something that will awe me enough to buy into them anyway.  If so - get back to work!

[/QUOTE]

Hey there

As for the minimal SKU thing, it is really the only way to go these days I am afraid. Most game stores have limited space and it is difficult enough to convince them to carry one new product, let alone 6 or more. That said, we are looking into other options, but right now, the boosters are the way to go.

Concerning the contents of the starter, you can find the entire list of cards in the starter (it is a set distribution) at our website here. The boosters each also contain a set assortment of cards. While some of the slots vary, you do know what you are going to get.

Hope that helps.. now its back to work for me, coming up with some more awe!

Jason Bulmahn

Item Card Lead Designer

Thanks for the reply.

I think you missed my point on the starter deck.  I know what's in there (well, I knew about them), but when it's randomly sitting next to other card games, people (the random person who finds it at the LGS) may not see the value of it.  The LGS also obviously did not realize what section the pack should have been in (RPG supplements, not card games - IMO) and some LGS's may not have the capacity to carry the starter deck alongside other RPG supplements.

Because of it's size and outer packaging, when it is located in the wrong section of a LGS it may not have the perceived value that a game like Bang! has (due to bigger and sturdier packaging at the same price point).  Don't know if you focus grouped that or not, it just stuck out in my mind when I came across the deck...

Thanks for the reply.

I think you missed my point on the starter deck. I know what's in there (well, I knew about them), but when it's randomly sitting next to other card games, people (the random person who finds it at the LGS) may not see the value of it. The LGS also obviously did not realize what section the pack should have been in (RPG supplements, not card games - IMO) and some LGS's may not have the capacity to carry the starter deck alongside other RPG supplements.

Because of it's size and outer packaging, when it is located in the wrong section of a LGS it may not have the perceived value that a game like Bang! has (due to bigger and sturdier packaging at the same price point). Don't know if you focus grouped that or not, it just stuck out in my mind when I came across the deck...