bshugg Underboss
 1814 Posts




 | | 02/08/2007 5:43 AM |
| I did some work on some of  the prestige classes in complete scoundrel. If you own the book, take a look at  Grey Guard, Spellwarp Sniper, and Combat Trapsmith and tell me what you think.  I worked on others but they were changed from my original versions a great deal.  I'm looking for a critique on balance, creativity, how interesting and useful they are, and how likely people might play them.Â
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Star Sergeant
 978 Posts



 New Britain, CT
 | | 02/08/2007 8:37 AM |
| Honestly my favorite part of this book are the feats which combine the abilities of two classes when multiclassing (Swift Hunter, Daring Outlaw etc.) but that's mostly because I tend to multiclass a lot. I also like the skill tricks but feel that they're too good for just two points. You didn't work on it but my favorite prestige class in the book is the Mountebank. I like the opportunity to move around the battlefield.
Of the prestige classes you worked on: Grey Guard - I like the concept of it and the ability to stray outside the Paladin's code of conduct a little bit for the greater good. There's some good roleplaying opportunities there. The mechanics of the class are a bit lacking. You're taking away or weakening major paladin abilities (mount and spellcasting) and not giving much back in return. I'd probably play the CG paladin alternative instead of this prestige class if I were to go with this character concept.
Spellwarp Sniper - I remember joking with some of my friends a while back that they should make a rogue with one level of sorcerer then sneak attack people with Ray of Frost. We were joking because it seemed like a munchkiny thing to do. This prestige class seems to have taken that munchkiny concept and built on it.
Combat Trapsmith - This is a cool concept and different from most prestige classes. I might take levels in this. I especially like that it's only a five level class. It lets you become good at one thing and then you're done. Of the three I would be most likely to take this class.
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Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
 7146 Posts



 Idaho. Yes, we have Gamers in Idaho.
 | | 02/08/2007 11:12 AM |
| Brad- I'll make sure to give them a look as soon as I get it in hand, and let you know.
Also, head over o the optimization boards, they should be able to let you know if there's anything broken...
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 Sir Bozak The Damned Commander
 2854 Posts



 Québec
 | | 02/08/2007 11:23 AM |
| | Why did they not name the book "Complete Rogue" ? You have complete everything except Sorcerors and Bards... | | Please donate BLOOD at http://www.monstersgame.co.uk/ac=vid&vid=11018554 Champion Of Kaz the Minotaur Knight of ALL Draconians. Squire Of ALL Constructs The number ONE fanatic Of Dread Guards ! I own 66 !!! And the GMR1 !!! 119 completed trades so far...NB called shot: Medusa | |
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bshugg Underboss
 1814 Posts




 | | 02/08/2007 7:55 PM |
| Posted By Sir Bozak The Damned on 02/08/2007 11:23 AM Why did they not name the book "Complete Rogue" ? You have complete everything except Sorcerors and Bards...
It's for every class and alignment not just rogues and bards.  There's classes and skills for paladins even. Basically its for people who want to make their characters more "Han Soloish" or "Indiana Jones" like. | | Looking for someone to cosponser a midwest DDM event. let me know if your interested! Check out my brand new blog: http://bshugg.blogspot.com | |
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 Sir Bozak The Damned Commander
 2854 Posts



 Québec
 | | 02/09/2007 12:26 PM |
| | Thanks, is a "Complete Rogue" planned or does the "Complete Adventurer" cover rogues and bard ? | | Please donate BLOOD at http://www.monstersgame.co.uk/ac=vid&vid=11018554 Champion Of Kaz the Minotaur Knight of ALL Draconians. Squire Of ALL Constructs The number ONE fanatic Of Dread Guards ! I own 66 !!! And the GMR1 !!! 119 completed trades so far...NB called shot: Medusa | |
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Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
 7146 Posts



 Idaho. Yes, we have Gamers in Idaho.
 | | 02/09/2007 1:26 PM |
| Posted By bshugg on 02/08/2007 7:55 PM Posted By Sir Bozak The Damned on 02/08/2007 11:23 AM Why did they not name the book "Complete Rogue" ? You have complete everything except Sorcerors and Bards... It's for every class and alignment not just rogues and bards.  There's classes and skills for paladins even. Basically its for people who want to make their characters more "Han Soloish" or "Indiana Jones" like.
They should have just called it complete Harrison Ford...
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Monsoon28 Underboss
 2290 Posts



 Toronto
 | | 02/09/2007 11:18 PM |
| Posted By Teflon Jeff on 02/09/2007 1:26 PM Posted By bshugg on 02/08/2007 7:55 PM Posted By Sir Bozak The Damned on 02/08/2007 11:23 AM Why did they not name the book "Complete Rogue" ? You have complete everything except Sorcerors and Bards... It's for every class and alignment not just rogues and bards.  There's classes and skills for paladins even. Basically its for people who want to make their characters more "Han Soloish" or "Indiana Jones" like. They should have just called it complete Harrison Ford...
Cool will their be a Deckard option?  | | "I was sittin' here eatin' my muffin, drinkin' my coffee, replayin' the incident in my head, when I had what alcoholics refer to as a moment of clarity." - Jules Winnfield Sales/Trades Bad (1): Ironfist Boulderbender Trades/Sales completed (8.): Danthl, Dafrca, Garyaxe, qillan_dvra, realmaster, Vandal_Savage, cavedweller, unearthed arcana. Champion of Gem Dragons, VINDICATED Squire of Duergar Commander, Knight of the Astral Stalker.
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