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gss_000 Commander
 3204 Posts



 Baltimore, MD
 | | 03/02/2007 7:49 PM |
| I've been waiting for March not only for Unhallowed, but for this book. I've always loved magic items, and the teases on the WOTC site are really getting me excited. More customization is a great idea and I think with the parts I've read they have the balance right. I can't wait to have it in my hands.
| | Completed trades: blackthorne, Drakkengi,Thorgrin, Ironfist Boulderbender x2, ckissee, nasamonkey, Username, Star, Ace13 x3, emontedodger x2, Drconveyor, church, Joeyb, Sir Bozak The Damned, Xeromod, the other guy x2, Qucalion of Celene, Dagaron x2, berus316, qillan_dvra, AshloreDarkShadow
For further info go to My Reference Thread and Trade Interface
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| Monsoon28 Underboss
 2299 Posts



 Toronto
 | | 03/02/2007 8:05 PM |
| Yes, I'm actually more excited about this book and the new FR Adventure series/World book: Cormyr: Tearing of the Weave, then I am about the Unhallowed set. Â That's not a knock against the new minis set, but just an indicator of how much these two books are right on the money of what I want.
| | "I was sittin' here eatin' my muffin, drinkin' my coffee, replayin' the incident in my head, when I had what alcoholics refer to as a moment of clarity." - Jules Winnfield Sales/Trades Bad (1): Ironfist Boulderbender Trades/Sales completed (8.): Danthl, Dafrca, Garyaxe, qillan_dvra, realmaster, Vandal_Savage, cavedweller, unearthed arcana. Champion of Gem Dragons, VINDICATED Squire of Duergar Commander, Knight of the Astral Stalker.
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| gss_000 Commander
 3204 Posts



 Baltimore, MD
 | | 03/02/2007 8:25 PM |
| | Yeah. I've been missing the FR love for the past year. I'm hoping that they return to the setting books sometime in the near future after they get done with the 3 part supermod and Undermountain adventure. | | Completed trades: blackthorne, Drakkengi,Thorgrin, Ironfist Boulderbender x2, ckissee, nasamonkey, Username, Star, Ace13 x3, emontedodger x2, Drconveyor, church, Joeyb, Sir Bozak The Damned, Xeromod, the other guy x2, Qucalion of Celene, Dagaron x2, berus316, qillan_dvra, AshloreDarkShadow
For further info go to My Reference Thread and Trade Interface
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| yack Commander
 3198 Posts



 Gatineau Canada
 | | 03/03/2007 11:32 AM |
| | I'm with you's can't wait for theses 2 books.... the spell Compendium juts rocked so can't wait for the magic item one. Its been a little too long since we have seen a FR book better yet a adventure. | | Champion of the Peryton Vindicated Champion : Pit Fiend, Devourer DW: Duergar Priest RPG Only!!!! The Drumming Drunkn' DM | |
| Star Sergeant
 978 Posts



 New Britain, CT
 | | 03/04/2007 7:21 AM |
| I want the Magic Item Compendium - I love the Spell Compendium. If I have one complaint about the Spell Compendium it's that it didn't include spells from the PHB. Obviously they didn't do it because they didn't want to reprint spells that everyone has access to. I would want them to reprint those spells just so I can look in one book for the spell that I'm looking for.
So. I hope that they reprint the magic item section of the DMG. I'll still buy it even if they don't - I'll only have to look through two books when placing magical treasure in my game. I'd rather look through only one.
It's funny. I have so many D+D books that I want new books that prevent me from having to use the books that I already have. | | Champion of Gromph Baenre | |
| Knight of Argenis Corim Danex Warlord
 6685 Posts



 West Valley City, Utah
 | | 03/04/2007 9:25 AM |
| | I am really hoping that the balance is right for the Magic Item Compendium. I would be quite interested in the book if it is, and would buy one. If it's not, I would be quite disappointed, and would not get one. | | "Look to God and live." Alma 37:47 Vindicated Champ of Hippogriff (Arcadian Hippogriff) and Uncommon Horse | |
| gss_000 Commander
 3204 Posts



 Baltimore, MD
 | | 03/04/2007 6:58 PM |
| | From what I've seen, I think they will get it right. The previews so far have shown cool items that won't overbalance a game for their price but give a lot of cool flavor. I especially like the 3rd update with the idea of item collections. It really brings a lot more flavor to games. | | Completed trades: blackthorne, Drakkengi,Thorgrin, Ironfist Boulderbender x2, ckissee, nasamonkey, Username, Star, Ace13 x3, emontedodger x2, Drconveyor, church, Joeyb, Sir Bozak The Damned, Xeromod, the other guy x2, Qucalion of Celene, Dagaron x2, berus316, qillan_dvra, AshloreDarkShadow
For further info go to My Reference Thread and Trade Interface
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| Olaf the Stout Sergeant
 404 Posts


 Adelaide, Australia
 | | 03/07/2007 5:07 PM |
| I'm really looking forward to the Magic Item Compendium. I love magic items. I have all 4 Encyclopedia Magica's from 2E that I still look at from time to time.
Personally I don't think that they will have the DMG items in there but I do know that the DMG items will be included on the new treasure tables that will be in the MC.
Olaf the Stout | | My Trade Thread 12 Trades Completed - Bert the Troll, Keoki, elf_ranger, kalle, Dropbear, twilightraven, SkYlyn3, Monolthicus (x2), qillan_dvra, xuthal, MMT 2007 My Reference Thread | |
| Oryan77 Sergeant
 955 Posts




 | | 03/07/2007 5:28 PM |
| Posted By Olaf the Stout on 03/07/2007 5:07 PM I have all 4 Encyclopedia Magica's from 2E that I still look at from time to time.
I also have those and I still use them (converting items I like to 3.5). One of my books though has a printing error. The first 35 pages or so are missing, and the following 35 pages are repeated instead. So I'm missing pages and have duplicates of other pages. I didn't even realize it until a few years ago.
I don't know what to do with it It also seems hard to find a replacement copy of that book without buying the set.
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| Wraithborne Commander
 3729 Posts



 West Virginia
 | | 03/07/2007 6:42 PM |
| Posted By Oryan77 on 03/07/2007 5:28 PM Posted By Olaf the Stout on 03/07/2007 5:07 PM I have all 4 Encyclopedia Magica's from 2E that I still look at from time to time.
I also have those and I still use them (converting items I like to 3.5). One of my books though has a printing error. The first 35 pages or so are missing, and the following 35 pages are repeated instead. So I'm missing pages and have duplicates of other pages. I didn't even realize it until a few years ago. I don't know what to do with it  It also seems hard to find a replacement copy of that book without buying the set. Which one is it? mayhap we can work out a trade?!?
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| Oryan77 Sergeant
 955 Posts




 | | 03/07/2007 8:06 PM |
| Posted By Wraithborne on 03/07/2007 6:42 PM Posted By Oryan77 on 03/07/2007 5:28 PM Posted By Olaf the Stout on 03/07/2007 5:07 PM I have all 4 Encyclopedia Magica's from 2E that I still look at from time to time.
I also have those and I still use them (converting items I like to 3.5). One of my books though has a printing error. The first 35 pages or so are missing, and the following 35 pages are repeated instead. So I'm missing pages and have duplicates of other pages. I didn't even realize it until a few years ago. I don't know what to do with it  It also seems hard to find a replacement copy of that book without buying the set. Which one is it? mayhap we can work out a trade?!? I'll have to check when I get home, I don't remember which book it was. I won't be home until tomorrow night though. If you don't hear back from me by then, feel free to shoot me an email and remind me about it 
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| nyjastul69 Commander
 2710 Posts



 Rhode Island
 | | 03/08/2007 5:11 AM |
| | I have as much interest in this as I did for the Spell Compendium, none. I've never been fond of compilations, especially when I already own most of the components in their original form. | | You know, I keep thinking that after the new design team gets done with D&D 4e, D&D won't stand for Dungeons and Dragons anymore, because well, that's just not fun. It's old and stuffy. - Originally Posted by BabWryter on Kenzerco.com | |
| Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
 7507 Posts



 Sector 2814
 | | 03/08/2007 9:28 AM |
| I know I'll pick up both of them, I only hope they are worth the money.
The FR 3-part super adventure looks cool, I'm looking forward to it.
Magic Item compendium is just a really good idea. This will make adventure and treasure generation easier, and high level playtesting too...
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| gss_000 Commander
 3204 Posts



 Baltimore, MD
 | | 03/08/2007 1:24 PM |
| Posted By nyjastul69 on 03/08/2007 5:11 AM I have as much interest in this as I did for the Spell Compendium, none. I've never been fond of compilations, especially when I already own most of the components in their original form. If it matters this is more than just a compilation. There is more than just a reprinting of items, but if you don't want any recycled material it might not be worth the money for you. For me, the compilations are great. I also own a lot of the originals but it's just a pain to drag them all to games. These are much easier to use and in the SPell Compendium's case, fixed a lot of spells and made them more balance in both directions. If the MIC is the same as the SP I'll be happy as a clam.Â
| | Completed trades: blackthorne, Drakkengi,Thorgrin, Ironfist Boulderbender x2, ckissee, nasamonkey, Username, Star, Ace13 x3, emontedodger x2, Drconveyor, church, Joeyb, Sir Bozak The Damned, Xeromod, the other guy x2, Qucalion of Celene, Dagaron x2, berus316, qillan_dvra, AshloreDarkShadow
For further info go to My Reference Thread and Trade Interface
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| Olaf the Stout Sergeant
 404 Posts


 Adelaide, Australia
 | | 03/08/2007 2:53 PM |
| Posted By nyjastul69 on 03/08/2007 5:11 AM I have as much interest in this as I did for the Spell Compendium, none. I've never been fond of compilations, especially when I already own most of the components in their original form.
The Magic Item Compendium, as I understand it, will actually have hundreds of new magic items, unlike the Spell Compendium, which didn't have any new spells.
Olaf the Stout | | My Trade Thread 12 Trades Completed - Bert the Troll, Keoki, elf_ranger, kalle, Dropbear, twilightraven, SkYlyn3, Monolthicus (x2), qillan_dvra, xuthal, MMT 2007 My Reference Thread | |
| Thoth, Gatherer of Knowledge MerricB Underboss
 2350 Posts



 Australia
 | | 03/08/2007 4:17 PM |
| 1,250 magic items, of which 500 are new, IIRC.
Cheers! | | Merric Blackman
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| gss_000 Commander
 3204 Posts



 Baltimore, MD
 | | 03/08/2007 5:26 PM |
| | Thanks for the breakdown. I didn't realize it would be that many. | | Completed trades: blackthorne, Drakkengi,Thorgrin, Ironfist Boulderbender x2, ckissee, nasamonkey, Username, Star, Ace13 x3, emontedodger x2, Drconveyor, church, Joeyb, Sir Bozak The Damned, Xeromod, the other guy x2, Qucalion of Celene, Dagaron x2, berus316, qillan_dvra, AshloreDarkShadow
For further info go to My Reference Thread and Trade Interface
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| nyjastul69 Commander
 2710 Posts



 Rhode Island
 | | 03/09/2007 5:13 AM |
| Originally posted by gss_000: If it matters this is more than just a compilation. There is more than just a reprinting of items, but if you don't want any recycled material it might not be worth the money for you. For me, the compilations are great. I also own a lot of the originals but it's just a pain to drag them all to games. These are much easier to use and in the SPell Compendium's case, fixed a lot of spells and made them more balance in both directions. If the MIC is the same as the SP I'll be happy as a clam.¼img src='http://www.maxminis.com/desktopmodules/ntforums/images/emoticons/smile.gif' height='20' width='20' border='0' title='Smile' align='absmiddle'>
I have to correct myself here. I can see much more utility in the SC than the MIC. I can see a very good reason to have all the spells in one place that's easily ported to sessions and contains errata.  The MIC seems to be more of DM reference when designing adventures. I don't think I'd cart this guy to sessions.   My gaming dollars are spread a little thin these days and there are other books of completely new material that I'm interested in owning. That said, the completist in me may not allow me not to buy them. The completist and myself are waging psychological warfare against each other as we speak. 
One way to look at the MIC is that there are five hundred new magic items. Another would be that 60% of the material has already been released. See, we're at it again.  Â
  | | You know, I keep thinking that after the new design team gets done with D&D 4e, D&D won't stand for Dungeons and Dragons anymore, because well, that's just not fun. It's old and stuffy. - Originally Posted by BabWryter on Kenzerco.com | |
| nyjastul69 Commander
 2710 Posts



 Rhode Island
 | | 03/09/2007 5:18 AM |
| Posted By Olaf the Stout on 03/08/2007 2:53 PM Posted By nyjastul69 on 03/08/2007 5:11 AM I have as much interest in this as I did for the Spell Compendium, none. I've never been fond of compilations, especially when I already own most of the components in their original form. The Magic Item Compendium, as I understand it, will actually have hundreds of new magic items, unlike the Spell Compendium, which didn't have any new spells. Olaf the Stout
I thought the SC contained some new spells? Not a single one?!?  | | You know, I keep thinking that after the new design team gets done with D&D 4e, D&D won't stand for Dungeons and Dragons anymore, because well, that's just not fun. It's old and stuffy. - Originally Posted by BabWryter on Kenzerco.com | |
| gss_000 Commander
 3204 Posts



 Baltimore, MD
 | | 03/09/2007 8:38 AM |
| I can definitely see your point, especially if money for games is tight.
As for SC, while there was no new spells, there are many that are different from their original printing. Some that I can think of off the top of my head: slime wave, reciprical gyre, the various orb spells, etc.
There are some other things that might make some of the material "new", depending on how you look at it. First, one of the sources is Dragon magazine, so if you don't have a subscription that material is new (although this is in essence the same argument if you don't have any of the sources). Second, many of the spells that were listed as only Wu Jen or for one of the other non-standard casting classes have now been given their apprpriate Sor/Wiz, Cler, etc level. | | Completed trades: blackthorne, Drakkengi,Thorgrin, Ironfist Boulderbender x2, ckissee, nasamonkey, Username, Star, Ace13 x3, emontedodger x2, Drconveyor, church, Joeyb, Sir Bozak The Damned, Xeromod, the other guy x2, Qucalion of Celene, Dagaron x2, berus316, qillan_dvra, AshloreDarkShadow
For further info go to My Reference Thread and Trade Interface
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| Oryan77 Sergeant
 955 Posts




 | | 03/09/2007 11:08 AM |
| Posted By gss_000 on 03/09/2007 8:38 AM Some that I can think of off the top of my head: slime wave, reciprical gyre, the various orb spells, etc. ....and my hated enemy, Girallon's Blessing. They completely redid that spell from Savage Species and left in an entire paragraph of text from the original version that made no sense in the SC version. "Secondary Limbs"? I mistook that for Secondary Attacks and lectured my player about how he should be getting penalties. Then when we figured it might not refer to secondary attacks, we couldn't figure out why they'd even mention secondary limbs. After finding the original versions description, it made sense for that version. So we assume it was a copy & paste edit without any thought put towards why they are pasting that bit of text down.
Then there's Withered Limbs. What an awesome spell it was in the Book of Vile Darkness. My reocurring evil NPC Sorcereress used that spell. Then when I played the NPC again and looked up the spell in the SC, I found out it's no longer a Sorcerer spell!
I love the SC book, but I can't stand all the edits & revisions after I'm used to spells working a certain way. It brings back bad memories of how cool Drow were in second edition & how different they are in 3.5 edition. Oh my poor Drow & their Dimness...I mean Darkness spell.
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| gss_000 Commander
 3204 Posts



 Baltimore, MD
 | | 03/09/2007 1:33 PM |
| I like the new darkness, but having to explain that the a GM at a con who I swear by his rulings hasn't played D&D since 1st ed was excruciating.
Sometimes these changes are annoying, but I found that SC brought many of the spells in line to where they should have been in the first place. That and PHB II have become the 2 books I recommend people should get before any other after the core 3. But that is just me and your views may vary. | | Completed trades: blackthorne, Drakkengi,Thorgrin, Ironfist Boulderbender x2, ckissee, nasamonkey, Username, Star, Ace13 x3, emontedodger x2, Drconveyor, church, Joeyb, Sir Bozak The Damned, Xeromod, the other guy x2, Qucalion of Celene, Dagaron x2, berus316, qillan_dvra, AshloreDarkShadow
For further info go to My Reference Thread and Trade Interface
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| Oryan77 Sergeant
 955 Posts




 | | 03/09/2007 3:47 PM |
| Posted By gss_000 on 03/09/2007 1:33 PM I like the new darkness, but having to explain that the a GM at a con who I swear by his rulings hasn't played D&D since 1st ed was excruciating.
Sometimes these changes are annoying, but I found that SC brought many of the spells in line to where they should have been in the first place. That and PHB II have become the 2 books I recommend people should get before any other after the core 3. But that is just me and your views may vary. I wouldn't care so much about the Darkness spell if I didn't know how Drow used it in the novels & previous editions. It's completely different in every aspect. The Drow would make it appear on enemies at range, now it's range is touch and you usually cast it on yourself or allies rather than the enemy. It used to be used so 'enemies can't see out' of it's pitch blackness, now it's used so 'you can see out' of it's shadowy illumination. The 3.5 version on it's own is a nice spell...but it's not the Darkness spell...that's what I have a hard time with. It's the same as if they changed Magic Missiles & said, "Instead of doing damage to enemies, you absorb each missile yourself to heal your wounds for 1d4+1 hps"...that wouldn't be Magic Missiles.
What do you like from the PHB2? I agree, it's a nice book. I used the affiliations to create Planescape factions. Just curious what other people liked from it.
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| gss_000 Commander
 3204 Posts



 Baltimore, MD
 | | 03/09/2007 4:58 PM |
| Understandable. I stumbled over the change from infravision to darkvision for awhile, as well. That got me more than darkness.
As for the PHB II: I absolutely love the alternate class features. The feats are great and fill a void that has been lacking (namely armor and shield feats) as well as making fighter a class to take more than 4 levels in, the spells are neat without being overpowered, the teamwork benefits are a great way to make a group of players work better together, and lastly the retraining rules are a fantastic way to salvage PCs that have made choices that for one reason or another have become umplayable.
I did say I liked it. | | Completed trades: blackthorne, Drakkengi,Thorgrin, Ironfist Boulderbender x2, ckissee, nasamonkey, Username, Star, Ace13 x3, emontedodger x2, Drconveyor, church, Joeyb, Sir Bozak The Damned, Xeromod, the other guy x2, Qucalion of Celene, Dagaron x2, berus316, qillan_dvra, AshloreDarkShadow
For further info go to My Reference Thread and Trade Interface
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|  zenthrus Commander
 4909 Posts



 SLC, UT
 | | 03/09/2007 7:32 PM |
| Posted By gss_000 on 03/09/2007 4:58 PM As for the PHB II: I absolutely love the alternate class features.
If you're the DM be very careful about allowing Abrupt Jaunt. It's not exactly broken (well, two of our DMs would say it's completely broken) but it definitely requires you to thoroughly know the rules for immediate actions, supernatural abilities, and not be totally frustrated every time the obviously exposed wizard manages to avoid ever being charged.
As to the MIC...the thing I'm most intrigued by would be the magic item sets. The example from Previews for March and Beyond looks well written. I would hope that they've updated the Gauntlets of Ogre Power, Belt of Giant Strength, Hammer of Thunderbolts combination to be a little more like what it once was.
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| gss_000 Commander
 3204 Posts



 Baltimore, MD
 | | 03/10/2007 12:33 AM |
| Posted By zenthrus on 03/09/2007 7:32 PM If you're the DM be very careful about allowing Abrupt Jaunt. It's not exactly broken (well, two of our DMs would say it's completely broken) but it definitely requires you to thoroughly know the rules for immediate actions, supernatural abilities, and not be totally frustrated every time the obviously exposed wizard manages to avoid ever being charged.
Very true. A player in the game I'm in now uses this and we have to continually remind him that his immediate action uses his swift of the following round. It's more amusing than anything.  | | Completed trades: blackthorne, Drakkengi,Thorgrin, Ironfist Boulderbender x2, ckissee, nasamonkey, Username, Star, Ace13 x3, emontedodger x2, Drconveyor, church, Joeyb, Sir Bozak The Damned, Xeromod, the other guy x2, Qucalion of Celene, Dagaron x2, berus316, qillan_dvra, AshloreDarkShadow
For further info go to My Reference Thread and Trade Interface
Champion of Radiant Sevant | |
| Olaf the Stout Sergeant
 404 Posts


 Adelaide, Australia
 | | 03/12/2007 6:38 PM |
| Posted By Oryan77 on 03/09/2007 3:47 PM Posted By gss_000 on 03/09/2007 1:33 PM I like the new darkness, but having to explain that the a GM at a con who I swear by his rulings hasn't played D&D since 1st ed was excruciating.
Sometimes these changes are annoying, but I found that SC brought many of the spells in line to where they should have been in the first place. That and PHB II have become the 2 books I recommend people should get before any other after the core 3. But that is just me and your views may vary. I wouldn't care so much about the Darkness spell if I didn't know how Drow used it in the novels & previous editions. It's completely different in every aspect. The Drow would make it appear on enemies at range, now it's range is touch and you usually cast it on yourself or allies rather than the enemy. It used to be used so 'enemies can't see out' of it's pitch blackness, now it's used so 'you can see out' of it's shadowy illumination. The 3.5 version on it's own is a nice spell...but it's not the Darkness spell...that's what I have a hard time with. It's the same as if they changed Magic Missiles & said, "Instead of doing damage to enemies, you absorb each missile yourself to heal your wounds for 1d4+1 hps"...that wouldn't be Magic Missiles. What do you like from the PHB2? I agree, it's a nice book. I used the affiliations to create Planescape factions. Just curious what other people liked from it.
The Darkness spell came into the campaign that I'm running for the first time last session. A Yuan-Ti Assasin cast it around himself. Having not played a Wizard in 3E before I was a little surprised to read the description and find out what it actually does.
Like you Oryan77, I still remember it from the Drow in many FR novels. You almost have to use Obscuring Mist to get the same sort of effect now.
Olaf the Stout | | My Trade Thread 12 Trades Completed - Bert the Troll, Keoki, elf_ranger, kalle, Dropbear, twilightraven, SkYlyn3, Monolthicus (x2), qillan_dvra, xuthal, MMT 2007 My Reference Thread | |
| gss_000 Commander
 3204 Posts



 Baltimore, MD
 | | 03/12/2007 11:20 PM |
| If it matters it was a change from 3.0 to 3.5. I know this thread isn't about darkness (since I started it ) but I like the change. It thematically changes the spell, but it caused so many problems by lengthening combats to unenjoyable lengths that I don't mind the change. Now I also want continuity between novels and game rules as much as possible, but there's been so many changes over the years that I will be accomodating to stuff like this. | | Completed trades: blackthorne, Drakkengi,Thorgrin, Ironfist Boulderbender x2, ckissee, nasamonkey, Username, Star, Ace13 x3, emontedodger x2, Drconveyor, church, Joeyb, Sir Bozak The Damned, Xeromod, the other guy x2, Qucalion of Celene, Dagaron x2, berus316, qillan_dvra, AshloreDarkShadow
For further info go to My Reference Thread and Trade Interface
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| Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
 7507 Posts



 Sector 2814
 | | 03/13/2007 10:08 AM |
| I agree with gss, some thematic stuff changes. I have a friend who is really mad that half-elves can become bladesingers. I understand, but it's one of the updates they've made to make it easier to play.
| | Official Delegate, Wizards of the Coast Against The Giants Called Shot: Huge Green Dragon Icons Called Shot: Gargantuan Prismatic Dragon "Rejoice, for bad things are about to happen." | |
| wildmage Sneak
 123 Posts




 | | 03/13/2007 7:27 PM |
| | Does anyone have the Magic Item Compendium in hand? I'd love to hear a few words about general quality of the book- writing, illustrations, editing, etc. Also a bit about the relative power of the typical magic items vs. what's in the DMG for similar base prices. | | Champion of the Bone Naga (There's just so much roleplaying to be done with a large skeletal snake!) | |
| gss_000 Commander
 3204 Posts



 Baltimore, MD
 | | 03/13/2007 8:09 PM |
| | The illustrations are up on WOTC site right now. For items that are reprinted, it looks like the reused the apprpriate illustrations. | | Completed trades: blackthorne, Drakkengi,Thorgrin, Ironfist Boulderbender x2, ckissee, nasamonkey, Username, Star, Ace13 x3, emontedodger x2, Drconveyor, church, Joeyb, Sir Bozak The Damned, Xeromod, the other guy x2, Qucalion of Celene, Dagaron x2, berus316, qillan_dvra, AshloreDarkShadow
For further info go to My Reference Thread and Trade Interface
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| Monsoon28 Underboss
 2299 Posts



 Toronto
 | | 03/20/2007 10:08 PM |
| | Well from what I recall, the one store I plan to go to tomorrow was supposed to get them today. I'm very excited to check out both of the big releases. | | "I was sittin' here eatin' my muffin, drinkin' my coffee, replayin' the incident in my head, when I had what alcoholics refer to as a moment of clarity." - Jules Winnfield Sales/Trades Bad (1): Ironfist Boulderbender Trades/Sales completed (8.): Danthl, Dafrca, Garyaxe, qillan_dvra, realmaster, Vandal_Savage, cavedweller, unearthed arcana. Champion of Gem Dragons, VINDICATED Squire of Duergar Commander, Knight of the Astral Stalker.
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|  zenthrus Commander
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 SLC, UT
 | | 03/21/2007 5:52 AM |
| Posted By wildmage on 03/13/2007 7:27 PM Does anyone have the Magic Item Compendium in hand?
Just arrived today. It's going to take me a while to read it thoroughly enough to comment beyond: "Wow, looks pretty spiffy" and "Hey, what the heck does 'synergy' in the enhancement stat block mean since it isn't glossed at the beginning of the book (where the enhancements are listed)".
More once I've worked my way through. It's definitely a hefty tome. Not 100% sure, but I think it's the thickest WotC supplement to date (spell compendium is close, but I think the MIC is slightly thicker).
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| gss_000 Commander
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 Baltimore, MD
 | | 03/21/2007 8:24 AM |
| | It sounded like this was going to be a "beast" of a book from the writeups on the WOTC site. If people are interested in what the authors were thinking while writing the book, the 3 Design and Development articles are a great read. | | Completed trades: blackthorne, Drakkengi,Thorgrin, Ironfist Boulderbender x2, ckissee, nasamonkey, Username, Star, Ace13 x3, emontedodger x2, Drconveyor, church, Joeyb, Sir Bozak The Damned, Xeromod, the other guy x2, Qucalion of Celene, Dagaron x2, berus316, qillan_dvra, AshloreDarkShadow
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| Monsoon28 Underboss
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 Toronto
 | | 03/21/2007 11:42 PM |
| Well 285 pages incl. Appendixes and then page 286 is the Magic Item Record Sheet, that was made available at the WotC site. So far, I really have to say I'm liking this book allot, I think it has everything in it to be a 'must have' book for any DM. I'm also sure there will be many, many players out there, who will pour over this book for items to just boost up there character.
I haven't had the chance to digest this book, but like zenthrus I have to say, 'wow, looks pretty spiffy'. I still haven't really read through the augment crystals or even the section on sets of items, but armor/shields, weapons and clothing sections are nicely set up.
One new addition I really appreciated was the suggested level of an item for adventure purposes. So if an item were listed as 4th level, this would be an item that was more then appropriate for 4th level characters (and even acceptable for characters of a level or two below). This setup allows a DM's to quickly add items to an encounter, rather then looking up the the money value for a random encounter of said level and then slowly look through at what you could buy with that cash. As they suggested, using the money method might be better for important events like the BBEG or for a long running NPC, but for 'red-shirted crewman #5' this can be a great way to set them up in very little time. A small thing in the great scale of this book, but a wonderful addition IMHO.
Now back to reading more of this book and Cormyr: Tearing of the Weave.
*Edited for grammar*
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| yack Commander
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 Gatineau Canada
 | | 03/22/2007 3:41 AM |
| | is this out yet...like yesterday...? Man need to pick it up...love the idea of a suggested level per item...very cool addin! | | Champion of the Peryton Vindicated Champion : Pit Fiend, Devourer DW: Duergar Priest RPG Only!!!! The Drumming Drunkn' DM | |
| gss_000 Commander
 3204 Posts



 Baltimore, MD
 | | 03/22/2007 8:24 AM |
| Posted By Monsoon28 on 03/21/2007 11:42 PM
I new addition I really appreciated was the suggested level of an item for adventure purposes. So if an item were listed as 4th level, this would be an item that was more then appropriate for 4th level characters (and even acceptable for characters of a level or two below). This setup allows a DM's to quickly add items to an encounter, rather then looking up the the money value for a random encounter of said level and then slowly look through at what you could buy with that cash. As they suggested, using the money method might be better for important events like the BBEG or for a long running NPC, but for 'red-shirted crewman #5' this can be a great way to set them up in very little time. A small thing in the great scale of this book, but a wonderful addition IMHO.
That's fantastic! I love things that make game design easier. Thanks for the update.
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