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MackeyJ
Underboss
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 | | 05/07/2007 8:12 PM |
| I was just looking at the Fire Giant Forgepriests RPG stats and saw that his boulder throw does 2d16+12dmg.
Is that a typo or do they really make d16s and I've just not seen them yet? | |
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Corim Danex
Warlord
6567 Posts
West Valley City, Utah
| | 05/07/2007 9:20 PM |
| I really doubt that there would exist a d16. The d4, d6, d8, d10, d12, and d20 are all regular polyhedrons. There isn't a polyhedron shape for a 16 sided object that I am aware of. I don't think it's mathematically possible.
The only way I can think of getting a d16 result where you have an even chance to get #1-16 is to roll 5d4, with each dice a different color. Each one is designated A-E.
A is 1-4
B is 5-8
C is 9-12
D is 13-16
E is which dice counts where:
1 is A
2 is B
3 is C
4 is D
I really think it's a typo, though. | |
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realmaster
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| | 05/07/2007 9:51 PM |
| | I have a couple of d16's. a guy that I know brought them home from a past gencon. but I do not think that the card is right. | |
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Corim Danex
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6567 Posts
West Valley City, Utah
| | 05/07/2007 9:53 PM |
| Posted By realmaster on 05/07/2007 9:51 PM
I have a couple of d16's. a guy that I know brought them home from a past gencon. but I do not think that the card is right.
Interesting. What shape are the sides?
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realmaster
Underboss
1915 Posts
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| | 05/07/2007 9:58 PM |
| | it looks like a d10 but it has eight numbers on each side of the die instead of five. | |
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Teflon Jeff
Warlord
6543 Posts
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| | 05/08/2007 8:34 AM |
| Or the football shaped dice, that come to a point.
They are kind of shaped like a top...
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gss_000
Commander
3204 Posts
Baltimore, MD
| | 05/08/2007 12:37 PM |
| Posted By MackeyJ on 05/07/2007 8:12 PM
I was just looking at the Fire Giant Forgepriests RPG stats and saw that his boulder throw does 2d16+12dmg.
Is that a typo or do they really make d16s and I've just not seen them yet?
LOL! Good catch. That's definitely a typo. Every rock throwing ability in the MM is 2d6, not 2d16.Â
This reminds me of two things: 1) the old damage scores that were stated ike 5-40 and you had to figure ut on your own that they meant 5d8. It got wierd when there was multiple ways to factor it. and 2) Awhile ago, Dragon had an add where you'd send them a quarter and they would send you a d2.  It was a complete joke, but it was still funny.
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gss_000
Commander
3204 Posts
Baltimore, MD
| | 05/08/2007 12:39 PM |
| Posted By MackeyJ on 05/07/2007 8:12 PM
I was just looking at the Fire Giant Forgepriests RPG stats and saw that his boulder throw does 2d16+12dmg.
Is that a typo or do they really make d16s and I've just not seen them yet?
LOL! Good catch. That's definitely a typo. Every rock throwing ability in the MM is 2d6, not 2d16.Â
This reminds me of two things: 1) the old damage scores that were stated ike 5-40 and you had to figure ut on your own that they meant 5d8. It got wierd when there was multiple ways to factor it. and 2) Awhile ago, Dragon had an add where you'd send them a quarter and they would send you a d2.  It was a complete joke, but it was still funny.
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Qucalion of Celene
Sergeant
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Salt Lake City, Utah
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Corim Danex
Warlord
6567 Posts
West Valley City, Utah
| | 05/08/2007 4:33 PM |
| | Thanks for the picture, Qucalion | |
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kestrel.ca
Underboss
1671 Posts
| | 05/09/2007 7:12 AM |
| Posted By Corim Danex on 05/07/2007 9:20 PM
I really doubt that there would exist a d16. The d4, d6, d8, d10, d12, and d20 are all regular polyhedrons.
The d10 is not a regular polyhedron which requires each side to be a regular polygon (all side lengths being equal). Check out some dice sites (like advancinghordes.com) to see all sorts of weird dice shapes and sizes.
Slightly related, a d16 is pretty handy for the game of Bloodbowl when you need to randomly choose your MVP from a team of 16 players. I've seen a couple in the hands of players of that game.
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Teflon Jeff
Warlord
6543 Posts
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| | 05/09/2007 1:42 PM |
| Cool pics. Thancks Qucalion. I may have a new purchase for my collection.
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Qucalion of Celene
Sergeant
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Salt Lake City, Utah
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Corim Danex
Warlord
6567 Posts
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| | 05/10/2007 5:37 PM |
| Posted By kestrel.ca on 05/09/2007 7:12 AM
The d10 is not a regular polyhedron which requires each side to be a regular polygon (all side lengths being equal).
True enough. I hadn't thought that through on the d10. The rest of the regular dice can be made as regular polyhedrons, though. I will check out this site you mentioned.
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10104 Posts
United States
| | 05/11/2007 3:43 PM |
| [kinda off topic] Getting a linear d16 result is pretty easy.
1) Roll a d8.
2) Roll any other die.
If the other die is even, add 8 to your d8 result; if the other die is odd, don't.
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gss_000
Commander
3204 Posts
Baltimore, MD
| | 05/11/2007 7:20 PM |
| | If we're really going to make this complicated, do it in binary. All you need is 5 dice (one to represent the ones, 2s, 4s, 8s, and 16s) with evens being one and odds zero. In fact might as well use the five platonic solid dice to help keep track of the digits: the more sides the higher it tracks. | |
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Sulaco
Underboss
1605 Posts
| | 05/14/2007 1:35 PM |
| Posted By gss_000 on 05/11/2007 7:20 PM
If
we're really going to make this complicated, do it in binary. All you
need is 5 dice (one to represent the ones, 2s, 4s, 8s, and 16s) with
evens being one and odds zero. In fact might as well use the five
platonic solid dice to help keep track of the digits: the more sides
the higher it tracks.
But that doesn't create a d16, it creates a d35.
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yack
Commander
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Ottawa, Canada
| | 05/14/2007 1:56 PM |
| | nice idea... I suck at math. | |
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zenthrus
Commander
4677 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 05/14/2007 5:59 PM |
| Posted By Qucalion of Celene on 05/09/2007 1:43 PM
odecahedron = d12
I was under the impression that d12 = Dodecahedron 
I don't like d16s. They have a problem common to many irregular dice where the edges are round enough that the dice either bounce or roll too far. I prefer sharper edges.
On the bright side d16s aren't used too often 
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ransom
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| | 05/15/2007 3:47 AM |
| | I believe that this is a typo---it is supposed to be 2-16+12dmg----or 2d8+12 | |
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Teflon Jeff
Warlord
6543 Posts
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| | 05/15/2007 1:59 PM |
| I think it's a freudian slip by the designers that 4th edition is going to change from the D20 system to the now monopolized D16 system!
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gss_000
Commander
3204 Posts
Baltimore, MD
| | 05/15/2007 2:52 PM |
| Posted By Sulaco on 05/14/2007 1:35 PM
But that doesn't create a d16, it creates a d35.
You're right, I addded one to many die. Thanks. | |
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Teflon Jeff
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| | 05/15/2007 4:28 PM |
| isn't it a d31?
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gss_000
Commander
3204 Posts
Baltimore, MD
| | 05/16/2007 1:21 PM |
| | Yes, but it's still an extra die that I added. | |
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Sulaco
Underboss
1605 Posts
| | 05/17/2007 11:15 AM |
| Posted By Teflon Jeff on 05/15/2007 4:28 PM
isn't it a d31?
You're right. Guess I made a typo too. 
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