kritter
Underboss
1331 Posts
    
Calgary, Alberta Canada
 | | 09/14/2007 1:51 PM |
| i heard from a friend that our FLGS hasn't sold a Monster Manual 5, normally they would all be gone.
after the word of 4E he told me he isn't buying the MM5 and i don't blame him. i would hate to buy a book for a game and find out the game isn't supported the next day.
are all you people buying 3.5 books still? are your game stores selling many? | |
Trades:
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ckissee
Underboss
1428 Posts
KD :)
| | 09/14/2007 2:25 PM |
| | Personally, I have not purchased any 3.5 material since the announcement. that's not to say that I *won't* purchase any, just that I have not. From the FLGS people I have talked to, their sales of 3.5 has been down since the announcement. I did see a guy buying 2nd ed. stuff last night, though. | |
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Champion of: Aspect of Blibdoolpoolp
Miniatures Lists
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prchamb
Warrior
216 Posts
| | 09/14/2007 2:35 PM |
| I'm buying Pathfinder and Gamemastery adventures from Paizo, figuring it will be a while before my group switches to 4e (or 4.5). That and Paizo just produces great adventures.
No reason to buy anything from WotC.
My FLGS will not stock any more 3.5, but will special order for people.
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gausse
Sergeant
946 Posts
Wisconsin
| | 09/14/2007 2:49 PM |
| | I have been wondering that myself. By annoucing that 4e will be out in 6 months or whatever, how are they planning to sell all the new 3.5 stuff coming out before then? I sure wouldn't buy anything now. The Rules Compendium is coming out. I would normally buy it, but not now. It's got to really hurt their sales for months. We finally get some nice compendium's to organize all the far flunge 3.5 spells, etc. then they annouce we are tossing everything and completely starting over. Going to produce all those 3.5 books all over again as 4e. Planes, Faiths, Complete Series, Monster Manuals, etc. etc. etc. | |
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zenthrus
Commander
4630 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 09/14/2007 4:53 PM |
| | I still plan to snag the Fortress of the Yuan-ti (third part of an adventure arc). Aside from that....I have no plans on putting any money into D&D for a while. | |
Knight Warlord a.k.a. Commander (#32) in only 6 months. Where's my pie?
Champion of Dwarven Thunderlashers
Knight of the Large Dire Chicken
Have/Want List
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Fun Guy from Yuggoth
Cthulhufnord
Warlord
10613 Posts
Umass Amherst Baby!
| | 09/14/2007 5:53 PM |
| | Hmm... I'll have to check in with some of my friends back in town. I'd imagine you'd see a drop in 3.5 sales across the board. | |
Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
ash nazg thrakatulûk, agh burzum-ishi krimpatul | |
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Star
Sergeant
978 Posts
New Britain, CT
| | 09/14/2007 10:19 PM |
| I'll buy the Grand History of the Realms - although WOTC doesn't intend to support the FR setting as we currently know it.
Monster Manual 5? Rules Compendium? Anything else that won't be compatible with the new edition? I'll buy them at a discount if my group decides to stick with 3.5. They were very enthusiastic about the new edition when they first heard about it but they're starting to waver now. I'm maintaining my "wait and see" approach. | |
Champion of Gromph Baenre | |
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Knight of Argenis
Corim Danex
Warlord
6562 Posts
West Valley City, Utah
| | 09/14/2007 11:13 PM |
| | I want the Yuan-ti adventure and the Expedition to Greyhawk adventure. I may consider rules compendium down the road at a discount. I normally get a discount, so I am talking a bigger discount than I normally get. | |
"Look to God and live." Alma 37:47
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Champion of Something, I imagine I will think of something
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The Great
Choco Monster
Ghendar
Warlord
10885 Posts
In the constellation of Cygnus, or Central Connecticut
| | 09/15/2007 6:29 AM |
| | Last thing I bought was Expedition to Undermountain and some dungeon tiles. Still on the fence about Grand History of the Realms. As far as Monster manuals go, I stopped with MM3 and I'm fine with that. | |
No Hazel, no peace 
Champion of the Spider Eater with rider.
I actually love to be swallowed. - Posted By gss_000 on 09/04/2007 2:32 PM
How many times in life do you get to eat your own Cthulhu? - Posted By Pedro on 03/31/2008 2:29 | |
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hazel monday
Warrior
338 Posts
Baltimore MD
| | 09/15/2007 7:17 AM |
| | I'm sure there's been a huge drop in WOTC's 3.5 sales. I'm also jsut as sure that they were accounting for that. They'll more than make up that dough on 4e, and it's impending parade of endless supplements. They'll do the same thing again in another 2 years w 4.5. It's what they call a business plan. | |
Champion of Phanatons. | |
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Master of the
Awesome Sauce
Teflon Jeff
Warlord
6438 Posts
Idaho. Yes, we have Gamers in Idaho.
| | 09/15/2007 7:39 AM |
| I plan on picking up more Fluff-content books.
Grand History of the Realms
Fortress of the Yuan-ti
things that I can use no matter the edition... | |
Official Delegate, Wizards of the Coast
Against The Giants Called Shot: Huge Green Dragon
Icons Called Shot: Gargantuan Prismatic Dragon
"Rejoice, for bad things are about to happen." | |
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arbados
Underboss
1376 Posts
New York, USA
| | 09/17/2007 8:33 PM |
| | I am not planning on buying anything until a choice is made on whether we switch or not. That will not be for a while, but it seems silly to purchase source books that will no longer be useable. Adventures are different for I still use 1st edition stuff and simply convert it. | |
Give me more MIND FLAYERS! | |
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maijstral
Underboss
2105 Posts
| | 09/17/2007 10:01 PM |
| | I bought the monster manual V, but I buy any and all monster manuals that look at all interesting even 3rd party ones to mine for ideas. Outside of that I may buy the Expedition to Greyhawk adventure and the Yuan-ti adventure,because of nostalgia on the first and Yuan-ti being my favorite monsters on the second. After that I'm done buying 3.5 until I see what 4.0 is like. | | | |
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yack
Commander
3134 Posts
Ottawa, Canada
| | 09/18/2007 5:04 AM |
| | I plan the Grand History of the Realms, rules book and the yuan-ti adventure and then I will be done. Saw pathfinder but just can't get past the price. | |
Champion of the Peryton
Vindicated Champion : Pit Fiend, Devourer
ATG: Fog Giant
DW: Duergar Priest
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bshugg
Underboss
1787 Posts
| | 09/18/2007 7:09 AM |
| | I'm buying 2-3 books a month up until the release of 4th edition then just about every 4th edition book they make as well. If you have the disposable income, why not? Even reading the book 1 time and shelving it you get your money's worth. | |
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realmaster
Underboss
1905 Posts
Home of the 2002 Winter Olympics
| | 09/18/2007 10:31 PM |
| | my group has not had any discussions on going to 4.0 so no problem here on buying 3.5 for now. besides with the announcement of 4.0 prices are bound to drop. | |
Thanks, realmaster. Let's split up!!!!!
RIP Gary Gygax 1938-2008
Unhallowed vindicated champion: van richten
Successful trades:72
Trades in progress:0
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The Great
Choco Monster
Ghendar
Warlord
10885 Posts
In the constellation of Cygnus, or Central Connecticut
| | 09/19/2007 3:57 AM |
| Posted By bshugg on 09/18/2007 7:09 AM
If you have the disposable income, why not?
Because my disposable income goes for other things these days.
Even reading the book 1 time and shelving it you get your money's worth.
This is true in some cases and for some people, but not all. I love to read fluff books and consider those to be worth reading but I never sit down and read a crunch book, cover to cover. Any crunch book that does not get used in game is a waste of money to me. | |
No Hazel, no peace
Champion of the Spider Eater with rider.
I actually love to be swallowed. - Posted By gss_000 on 09/04/2007 2:32 PM
How many times in life do you get to eat your own Cthulhu? - Posted By Pedro on 03/31/2008 2:29 | |
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Elenial Noial
Skirmisher
13 Posts
Dufresne, MB, Canada
| | 09/19/2007 5:43 AM |
| I've just recently gotten back into the D&D world. I had the 3.0 versions of PHB and DMG and updgraded those as well as picking up a bunch of other books. Discussion in our gaming group is that we're sticking with 3.5. A couple of players in the group have tons of minis which makes it very cool and easy to have the correct monster in place when roleplaying battles. Some of the rumours seem to indicate that 3.5 minis will not be compatible with 4.0, so we're saying screw it and sticking to what has been working for us. It may be that WotC want to sell more books, but it certainly doesn't mean that we have to drop the hundreds of $'s we've spent on the 3.5 stuff and start buying 4.0. | |
When the levee breaks, mama you got to move.... | |
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irish_vampyre
Skirmisher
1 Posts
| | 09/21/2007 1:02 AM |
| | To be honest, since I heard the announcement I starting downloading scanned copies of the 3.5ed books I wanted or needed, it's a pain, but if they're gonna be obsolete in a few months, usually at $30 a pop, why bother buying them? I think I'll check out 4ed before I actually purchase anymore books besides the cores for 4. I got roped into that enough as it is. I was playing 2ed, then bought 3ed cores and then in like a month I had to go out and get 3.5ed. it felt really really cheap pf them to do that to people (ie. me). So this time I'll test the waters maybe 2 months after it releases and if I like it, my players will simply have to go through another conversion. If not, 3.5 is fine, it's about as complicated a system as I need it to be, lol. | | | |
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gausse
Sergeant
946 Posts
Wisconsin
| | 09/21/2007 10:20 AM |
| | I will still buy any cool modules out there, since I can't resist them (like dice) and they are easy to adapt. Monster manuals are always welcome as well. The rest can go back to the publisher. Wonder if they were smart enough to order smaller print runs for the stuff coming out now. | |
270+ Trades Completed (194 maxminis | 50 wizards | 29 hordelings)
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Knight of Argenis
Corim Danex
Warlord
6562 Posts
West Valley City, Utah
| | 09/21/2007 11:32 AM |
| Posted By irish_vampyre on 09/21/2007 1:02 AM
To be honest, since I heard the announcement I starting downloading scanned copies of the 3.5ed books I wanted or needed, it's a pain, but if they're gonna be obsolete in a few months, usually at $30 a pop, why bother buying them?
Because downloading scanned copies is theft.
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"Look to God and live." Alma 37:47
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Champion of Something, I imagine I will think of something
Vindicated Champ of Hippogriff (Arcadian Hippogriff) and Uncommon Horse | |
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Shottglazz
Sergeant
901 Posts
Quinte West, Ontario, Canada
| | 09/21/2007 11:35 AM |
| | ...not in Canada... | |
Shottglazz
"Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand;
I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me."
Completed trades ( 42 ): Pikel, Darrell, JeffDHarvey, BiggPappa001, Ghendar, Valinrook X2, Wolfgang x2, Wraithborne x5, Mr Ruffles, Anothermullen, CKissee x3, Browns_Scoundrel, Kyrin, GuJiaXian x2, Tyngfumv, Basic_Aim, Mickey Mouse, Berus316, Crisisman, Zoons, Rockfrd, Sterling40 x2, Brucemc, 2007 Magical Mystery Trade, Redskullz x2, Stephengroy, Lyus_Sleyden, Foolforthought, 2008 Magical Mystery Trade, Kilsek, Generic Fighter
Pending trades ( 2 ):Wolfgang, Auric
WotC trades ( 1 ): Red_Deceiver
Bad trades ( 2 ): LeftEyeofGruumsh, Yotebeth | |
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Gryfalia
Sneak
73 Posts
| | 09/27/2007 8:39 AM |
| Posted By gausse on 09/21/2007 10:20 AM
The rest can go back to the publisher.
Woah, I have that ability???
/grumble..
Gryfalia | |
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Kaya Kenobi
Underboss
1302 Posts
San Jose, California
| | 09/27/2007 10:38 AM |
| Posted By Corim Danex on 09/21/2007 11:32 AM Posted By irish_vampyre on 09/21/2007 1:02 AM
To be honest, since I heard the announcement I starting downloading scanned copies of the 3.5ed books I wanted or needed, it's a pain, but if they're gonna be obsolete in a few months, usually at $30 a pop, why bother buying them?
Because downloading scanned copies is theft.
Some of us, like myself, just doesn't care about it anymore. I own 118 hard copies of the books, and well, scans, I have 215 scanned books. 97 books that I would have never bought anyways. I couldn't ever see myself buying ghostwalk or weapons of destiny, or any of the other garbage that WotC has come up with in the past few years. Most of the hard copy books I own are splats, and 3rd party materials. I will support 3rd party over WotC any day.
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Just a simple traveler from the swamps of Dagobah otherwise known as Florida. Also known as Hurricane Alley!
I always try to send through delivery confirmation, and I expect the same. It's only 55 cents extra, so it's just a little more than a pay phone call, so just do it for the Kai.  I prefer to trade with people in the US and Canada, sorry everyone else.
http://www.maxminis.com/Forums/tabid/104/forumid/53/postid/655406/view/topic/Default.aspx - references | |
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Fun Guy from Yuggoth
Cthulhufnord
Warlord
10613 Posts
Umass Amherst Baby!
| | 09/27/2007 10:18 PM |
| | Spoke to one of my friends at the FLGS, 3.5 sales have dropped a bit. The store had allready anticipated this and had reduced their orders. | |
Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
ash nazg thrakatulûk, agh burzum-ishi krimpatul | |
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nyjastul69
Commander
2710 Posts
Rhode Island
| | 09/28/2007 4:14 AM |
| Posted By Kaya Kenobi on 09/27/2007 10:38 AM Posted By Corim Danex on 09/21/2007 11:32 AM Posted By irish_vampyre on 09/21/2007 1:02 AM
To be honest, since I heard the announcement I starting downloading scanned copies of the 3.5ed books I wanted or needed, it's a pain, but if they're gonna be obsolete in a few months, usually at $30 a pop, why bother buying them?
Because downloading scanned copies is theft. Some of us, like myself, just doesn't care about it anymore. I own 118 hard copies of the books, and well, scans, I have 215 scanned books. 97 books that I would have never bought anyways. I couldn't ever see myself buying ghostwalk or weapons of destiny, or any of the other garbage that WotC has come up with in the past few years. Most of the hard copy books I own are splats, and 3rd party materials. I will support 3rd party over WotC any day.
Because you don't care about breaking the law doesn't change the fact that it's still criminal. | |
You know, I keep thinking that after the new design team gets done with D&D 4e, D&D won't stand for Dungeons and Dragons anymore, because well, that's just not fun. It's old and stuffy. - Originally Posted by BabWryter on Kenzerco.com | |
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Dordledum
Commander
3107 Posts
Netherlands
| | 09/28/2007 4:36 AM |
| Posted By Shottglazz on 09/21/2007 11:35 AM
...not in Canada...
You sure? I'd venture Hasbro disagrees,
D.
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Member of the Bearded Devils
Champion of the Huge Spider (WotDQ 46/60), A New Umber Hulk (DoDe 57/60), and Hardcopy Printed DDM 2.0 Stat-Cards for all Minis! | |
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Kaya Kenobi
Underboss
1302 Posts
San Jose, California
| | 09/28/2007 2:07 PM |
| Posted By Dordledum on 09/28/2007 4:36 AM Posted By Shottglazz on 09/21/2007 11:35 AM
...not in Canada... You sure? I'd venture Hasbro disagrees, D.
Some countries actually encourage theft andmake it very hard for the US to retaliate.
And while it's still criminal, the technicality still exists that I do in fact own many of the hardcopy books that I downloaded pdfs of. And I have many hardcopy books that isn't in pdf format. So... Am I stealing what I do own? | |
Just a simple traveler from the swamps of Dagobah otherwise known as Florida. Also known as Hurricane Alley!
I always try to send through delivery confirmation, and I expect the same. It's only 55 cents extra, so it's just a little more than a pay phone call, so just do it for the Kai. I prefer to trade with people in the US and Canada, sorry everyone else.
http://www.maxminis.com/Forums/tabid/104/forumid/53/postid/655406/view/topic/Default.aspx - references | |
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realmaster
Underboss
1905 Posts
Home of the 2002 Winter Olympics
| | 09/29/2007 2:57 AM |
| I do in fact own many of the hardcopy books that I downloaded pdfs of. And I have many hardcopy books that isn't in pdf format. So... Am I stealing what I do own? good question, I have I think every 3.0 book in pdf and I own every book that I have a pdf of. | |
Thanks, realmaster. Let's split up!!!!!
RIP Gary Gygax 1938-2008
Unhallowed vindicated champion: van richten
Successful trades:72
Trades in progress:0
Have issues with:1 burning_kazuki
Bad trades:0
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PaSquall
Underboss
1392 Posts
| | 09/29/2007 4:24 AM |
| It's quite possible that downloading copyrighted material could be legal in some countries, for a variety of reasons, mainly because their laws aren't adapted anymore to the (relatively) new digital formats and easiness to transfer them electronically ; finding legal loopholes is then pretty easy. IIRC some countries also allow downloading for personal use, but forbid to place copyrighted material at others' disposal (i.e. upload). Possibly illogical, but it's like that.
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Vindicated Champion of the PSEUDODRAGON
(Unhappy) vindicated champion of the DRYAD
Against the giants called shot : huge cloud giant female
Demonweb called shot : ghost | |
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Master of the
Awesome Sauce
Teflon Jeff
Warlord
6438 Posts
Idaho. Yes, we have Gamers in Idaho.
| | 09/30/2007 10:06 AM |
| Posted By Dordledum on 09/28/2007 4:36 AM Posted By Shottglazz on 09/21/2007 11:35 AM
...not in Canada... You sure? I'd venture Hasbro disagrees, D.
So does the Canadian Government.
Posted By PaSquall on 09/29/2007 4:24 AM
It's quite possible that downloading copyrighted material could be legal in some countries, for a variety of reasons, mainly because their laws aren't adapted anymore to the (relatively) new digital formats and easiness to transfer them electronically ; finding legal loopholes is then pretty easy. IIRC some countries also allow downloading for personal use, but forbid to place copyrighted material at others' disposal (i.e. upload). Possibly illogical, but it's like that.
Some countries don't recognize digital laws (Sweden, for one, IIRC. Maybe it was Finland) And as long as it stays in that ountry, there isn't a lot the US or any other government can do. But once it hits another country's soil, it's a crime, even if it wasn't downloaded there. It's the same theory behind drug trafficking. It's not illegal to produce HGH or Cocaine in certain country's, but brining it to a place where it is illegal still makes it a crime.
Regardless, I guess it's just a personal choice. But as they say, what goes around, comes around. | |
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Against The Giants Called Shot: Huge Green Dragon
Icons Called Shot: Gargantuan Prismatic Dragon
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Wraithborne
Commander
3433 Posts
West Virginia
| | 09/30/2007 10:54 AM |
| | Since some folks seem to know a lot more than I do about legality issues, I have a question maybe someone can answer. Is it legal to have PDFs of books that you own? Does it matter where you got them if you bought the book? | |
Hey Woman, Hey Woman!! Listen here. Since your ol' man ain't got no heart, maybe you'd like to see a real man. I bet you stay up late every night dreamin' you had a real man, don't ya'? I tell you what, bring your pretty little self over to my apartment tonight and I'll show you a real man!
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Knight of Argenis
Corim Danex
Warlord
6562 Posts
West Valley City, Utah
| | 09/30/2007 11:44 AM |
| Posted By Wraithborne on 09/30/2007 10:54 AM
Since some folks seem to know a lot more than I do about legality issues, I have a question maybe someone can answer. Is it legal to have PDFs of books that you own? Does it matter where you got them if you bought the book?
This is a good question.
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"Look to God and live." Alma 37:47
Ha 80/80---De 60/60---Ar 60/60---GoL 72/72---Ab 60/60---Dk 60/60---Af 60/60---Ud 60/60---WD 60/60---WDQ 60/60---BW 60/60---UH 60/60---NB 60/60---DDe 60/60---SSB 59/60 (Does anyone want to buy my SSB collection?)
Champion of Something, I imagine I will think of something
Vindicated Champ of Hippogriff (Arcadian Hippogriff) and Uncommon Horse | |
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yack
Commander
3134 Posts
Ottawa, Canada
| | 09/30/2007 1:36 PM |
| | Its still a copy right issue like copying a movie that you own .You don't really own the movie or the book(even though you bought it) just a copy of it (the publisher or production company own the product)and you don't have the right to make a duplicate. But then again I don't follow these rules myself as I'm the king of download. But hate pdf books! | |
Champion of the Peryton
Vindicated Champion : Pit Fiend, Devourer
ATG: Fog Giant
DW: Duergar Priest
RPG Only!!!! The Drumming Drunkn' DM | |
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PaSquall
Underboss
1392 Posts
| | 09/30/2007 2:09 PM |
| Posted By yack on 09/30/2007 1:36 PM
Its still a copy right issue like copying a movie that you own .You don't really own the movie or the book(even though you bought it) just a copy of it (the publisher or production company own the product)and you don't have the right to make a duplicate. But then again I don't follow these rules myself as I'm the king of download. But hate pdf books!
Depends on countries' laws. The laws can be (and often are) different for books, movies or videogames.
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Vindicated Champion of the PSEUDODRAGON
(Unhappy) vindicated champion of the DRYAD
Against the giants called shot : huge cloud giant female
Demonweb called shot : ghost | |
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Knight of the
Round Table
Thenameless
Warlord
8588 Posts
The Fortress of Solitude
| | 10/01/2007 8:22 PM |
| | One of our FLGS's has dropped the price on his 3.5 stuff, and most of it is still not moving well. The campaign stuff is still doing okay though. | |
Over 270 successful online DDM trades. | |
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Master of the
Awesome Sauce
Teflon Jeff
Warlord
6438 Posts
Idaho. Yes, we have Gamers in Idaho.
| | 10/02/2007 5:28 PM |
| Posted By Wraithborne on 09/30/2007 10:54 AM
Since some folks seem to know a lot more than I do about legality issues, I have a question maybe someone can answer. Is it legal to have PDFs of books that you own? Does it matter where you got them if you bought the book?
In America, you are allowed to make a copy for personal use. But you must do the copying. So, scanning a book you own to your PC? Legal. Sharing it? Not so much. Downloading what is technically someone else's copy? Probably not legal either. It's like going 7 miles over the sped limit. It's illegal, but most cops won't even care. | |
Official Delegate, Wizards of the Coast
Against The Giants Called Shot: Huge Green Dragon
Icons Called Shot: Gargantuan Prismatic Dragon
"Rejoice, for bad things are about to happen." | |
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