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11/26/2007 2:28 AM Alert 
I was wondering what everyone's favorite d20 fantasy books were.  As I've decided to stick with 3.5 for the forseeable future, I have been picking up a few titles here and there, as the prices are low right now.  One of the coolest that I have come across is the Slayer's Guide Compendium I.  This is a collection of exhaustive ecologies on various monster races (namely the Hobgoblin, Orc, Gnoll, Troll, Doppelganger, Triton).  From reading about Hobgoblins, I have decided to make them a major influence in my campaign world (aside from the fact that I have so many Hobgoblin minis), totally bent on dominating those regions that come under their control. This book really gets into their psychology, thus giving me a rationale for why they are the way they are.

Another that I haven't gotten yet, but have read great things about is Wildcraft, in the Legends and Lairs series.  It purportedly takes the place of Sandstorm and Frostburn in describing and stating out these environments, plus others.

So what are your favorites, what are they about, and how do they help you in your game?




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11/26/2007 10:11 AMAlert 
I like the Player's Handbook quite a bit :)

Seriously, i haven't read that many books, but the Fiendish codexes: Legions of Hell and Hordes of the Abyss (2 books) are really good in my opinion. Both have a good flavor and flesh out the denizens of hell and the abyss quite well. They further explain how these outsiders differ in their very essence, how pure chaos and pure law is different in its ultimate evilness. There are good monsters in them too (several iconic demons and devils such as the nabassu and the BarLgura IIRC). The backstory for Hell is pretty fun to read also. I've enjoyed those two books very much, probably Legions of Hell even more.

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11/27/2007 1:24 PMAlert 
I've got a few...

Dungeons from AEG is really good, and has some great reads

The Munchkin's Guide to Power Gaming, while not D20 per se, is funny

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The entire Slayers guide series from Mongoose

Encyclopaedia Arcane series, also from Mongoose

Three Days to Kill & The Belly of the Beast, adventures from Penumbra

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11/28/2007 5:26 AMAlert 
 Here are some pretty decent products.

Salt and Sea Dogs is an excellent general resource for water based adventures.  It's not tied too closely to the Kalamar setting, but it does make references to the CS.  It uses an interesting concept, ship templates, to quickly design unique ships from a generic layout.

http://www.amazon.com/Salt-Sea-Dogs-Pirates-Tellene/dp/1889182907


  Goods and Gear: The Ultimate Adventurer's Guide is the best equipment book I've seen.  It's dual stated for D20 and HackMaster.

http://www.amazon.com/Goods-Gear-Ultimate-Adventurers-Guide/dp/1594590168/ref=cm_cr-mr-title


City Works is an excellent book for generic or random city design and adventuring.

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11/28/2007 6:16 AMAlert 
I'd have to pick "Toolbox" by AEG...

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11/28/2007 9:05 AMAlert 
Posted By Shottglazz on 11/28/2007 6:16 AM
I'd have to pick "Toolbox" by AEG...


also a good book, from a nuts and bolts perspective. Consider it seconded. One of my more rules-light players DM'ed using it, and did a much better job.

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01/22/2008 6:04 PMAlert 
I like Stormwrack, Faeries by Bastion Press, Northern Crown by Atlas games, the Tome of Horrors, the Lord of the Abyss and the Nine Hells books by WOTC, the Blackmoor setting book, Imperial Rome and the Witch guide by Green Ronin. Quite a few but I can't narrow it down to one.

The PHB is good but just a tiny bit to build on. :)

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02/19/2008 4:37 AMAlert 
I'm quite a fan of the fiendish codexes, libris mortis, draconomicon, and lords of madness series...

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02/19/2008 7:07 PMAlert 
Lords of Madness is really detailed, elaborating on the anatomies of the Aberrations if you like that sort of thing.

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02/20/2008 7:54 AMAlert 

Honestly, one of my favorite books was Lost Empires of Faerun. The only 3.0/3.5 book I read cover to cover. If you like Realms history, this one is a great book to have.

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/fracc/177380000


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02/20/2008 9:40 AMAlert 
I had a lot of fun with Monte Cook's Requiem for a God.

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02/20/2008 12:36 PMAlert 
Posted By Ghendar on 02/20/2008 7:54 AM

Honestly, one of my favorite books was Lost Empires of Faerun. The only 3.0/3.5 book I read cover to cover. If you like Realms history, this one is a great book to have.

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/fracc/177380000



And How. I have read mine over and over.

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02/20/2008 12:48 PMAlert 
I really enjoyed Lost Empires of Faerun, as well as both Sandstorm and Frostburn. The prestige classes in the latter two supplements weren't great, but the ideas on world-building were top-notch. My first 4e campaign will almost certainly borrow heavily from Frostburn.

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02/21/2008 7:02 AMAlert 
Posted By Ghendar on 02/20/2008 7:54 AM

Honestly, one of my favorite books was Lost Empires of Faerun. The only 3.0/3.5 book I read cover to cover. If you like Realms history, this one is a great book to have.

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/fracc/177380000


Good call, is a great supplement for when my pcs will try to rebuild the mythal of Myth Drannor.

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03/14/2008 5:27 AMAlert 
Posted By Dordledum on 02/21/2008 7:02 AM
Posted By Ghendar on 02/20/2008 7:54 AM

Honestly, one of my favorite books was Lost Empires of Faerun. The only 3.0/3.5 book I read cover to cover. If you like Realms history, this one is a great book to have.

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/fracc/177380000


Good call, is a great supplement for when my pcs will try to rebuild the mythal of Myth Drannor.

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Also has tons of stuff to inspire and, less subtly, just steal for use in homebrews. Grand History of the Realms is looking good too.

I like the complete books and the environment books but could never just sit down and read them cover to cover.

The details of my life are quite inconsequential... very well, where do I begin? My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner and RPG designer from Belgium with low grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a fifteen year old French prostitute and RPGA certified DM named Chloe with webbed feet. My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark and THAC0. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. My childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons, D&D every night. In the spring we'd make meat helmets for LARP. When I was insolent I was placed in a burlap bag, forced to walk the walk of a thousand four siders, and beaten with reeds- pretty standard really. At the age of twelve I received my first scribe, which was very handy for D&D. At the age of fourteen a Zoroastrian named Vilma ritualistically shaved my testicles for LARP. There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it's breathtaking- I highly suggest you try it.


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03/14/2008 9:22 AMAlert 
how are the drizzt books? my brother reads a lot of them and i was wondering if they are worth that much time to read. i loved c.s. lewis' books and timothy zahns thrawn series' but i've never read any thing from the d&d genre. what would be a good start for a lot of action?

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03/14/2008 9:23 AMAlert 
my bad, i was a bit confused on the original question, but in books to read that don't help a lot with rpg, what would be good?

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03/23/2008 1:09 AMAlert 
Conan D20.

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03/23/2008 10:47 AMAlert 
My Favourite is the Wheel of Time book.  We only played the campaign once and breifly, but I am such a WoT fanboy.

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03/23/2008 5:19 PMAlert 
That's another good one.  Too bad it never took off, the game looked fun.
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My Favourite is the Wheel of Time book.  We only played the campaign once and breifly, but I am such a WoT fanboy.



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03/23/2008 8:05 PMAlert 
I <3 the World's largest Dungeon book, that is INTENSE

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03/24/2008 9:47 AMAlert 
Posted By Cthulhufnord on 03/23/2008 5:19 PM
That's another good one.  Too bad it never took off, the game looked fun.
Posted By Raland on 03/23/2008 10:47 AM
My Favourite is the Wheel of Time book.  We only played the campaign once and breifly, but I am such a WoT fanboy.




We tred it, but it's too much human-centric. We yearned to get more fantasy in our fantasy gaming.

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Posted By Raland on 03/23/2008 10:47 AM
My Favourite is the Wheel of Time book.  We only played the campaign once and breifly, but I am such a WoT fanboy.

I always heard people talk about how good the WoT novels were and I got to borrow them last year from a guy. I read through the first novel and I liked the storyline, but I really didn't like the writing style at all. Way to descriptive on pointless details which bogged the story down. Then when a scene would get interesting, it was pretty underwhelming & brief. He elaborated more on the color & look of a womans gown then he did on a confrontation between an antagonist & protagonist. I still read through the second book hoping that now that the characters had been established the pacing of the story would pick up more....but it didn't. I also felt the characters were not very interesting. They came off very very whiney. Even when they became more unique with power (& got more interesting), they got even whinier. By the time I finished the 2nd book I realized the good storyline was not enough to make up for the annoyances of the writing & characters. I returned the books & didn't continue with the next novel. It had an interesting plot and would probably make a good tv series, but I wasn't a fan of the books myself.

I'd be interested in hearing what people like about this series of novels. It has a huge fan base so I'm sure it's good regardless of what turned me off from it.

I really liked the Dark Sun novels. I read each of those series and each one was really good. I also read all of the Drizzt stuff. It's hit & miss but overall they are really good. R.A. Salvatore became a favorite author of mine. I'm currently reading the Dragonlance series with Tanis, Tas, Raistlin, & those guys. I'm only on book 2 but it's pretty good so far

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03/24/2008 11:48 PMAlert 
The main reason I liked the WOT D20 was the amount of non-magic users, class wise.  It seemed like a good set up for running low fantasty.


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03/26/2008 3:24 AMAlert 
Plain and simple, the Monster Manual.

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03/27/2008 9:37 AMAlert 
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04/10/2008 1:31 AMAlert 
Aside from the core books I really like the Draconomicom and Expedition to the Ruins of Castle Greyhawk.

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04/10/2008 10:22 AMAlert 
Posted By Ghendar on 02/20/2008 7:54 AM

Honestly, one of my favorite books was Lost Empires of Faerun. The only 3.0/3.5 book I read cover to cover. If you like Realms history, this one is a great book to have.

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/fracc/177380000



Of course, A grand history of the realms is also good. Less in-depth, but covers more topics.

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