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greyhaze
Warlord
7713 Posts
    
 | | 07/10/2008 11:11 AM |
| | Hi folks, quick question.
I'm running a wizard.
I've gotten my hands on 3 Ioun Stones that increase your Int +2. As far as I can tell, it's within the +6 limits of gaining a boosted intelligence. The Ioun Stones description doesn't say anything about a limit, it also doesn't mention stacking, and the picture even shows 5 Ioun stones in use.
I'm also wondering what is boosted, I would assume spell DCs are boosted, but are all ability score adjustments boosted? Skills? Bonus Spells? For some reason I thought the ability scores would be boosted on Skills, but you wouldn't gain additional Skill Points - but I can't remember where I read this.
Thanks in advance for any help. | |
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Shottglazz
Underboss
1184 Posts
Quinte West, Ontario, Canada
| | 07/10/2008 11:17 AM |
| I would rule that the bonuses are treated like spell effects - identical effects don't stack...I would rule that all bonuses from the increased intelligence (spell DC's etc) come into effect...
Does your group use the whole gamut of 2e Ioun stones converted? We do, and my guys are happy to find stuff that isn't an item with a spell imbedded in it... | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
7713 Posts
| | 07/10/2008 11:31 AM |
| | Uh, we just use the 3.5 rules, but there isn't very much detail at all in the DMG, and doesn't mention no stacking. With most other items you can't stack em because you can only wear so much, but 2 rings of Protection +1 still provide +2 bonus - right? | |
Greyhaze's DDM Spoilers
Champion of a Medium Dog & then a Darkenbeast , Raistlin Majere, Nightmare WDQ25/60, Warduke WD60/60,
Anti-Champion of Guns, "Knight of Bugbears", and Joke Champion of Venger.
Called Shots: Frost Giant in Dangerous Delves. | |
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Shottglazz
Underboss
1184 Posts
Quinte West, Ontario, Canada
| | 07/10/2008 11:33 AM |
| | Hmmm good point about the rings...guess it depends on the power level of the campaign...we have no limitation on number of ioun stones in use at one time, but a guideline of no more than one of each type would seem appropriate... | |
Shottglazz
"Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand;
I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me."
Completed trades ( 53 ): Pikel, Darrell x2, JeffDHarvey, BiggPappa001, Ghendar, Valinrook X2, Wolfgang x4, Wraithborne x6, Mr Ruffles, Anothermullen, CKissee x3, Browns_Scoundrel, Kyrin, GuJiaXian x2, Tyngfumv, Basic_Aim, Mickey Mouse, Berus316, Crisisman, Zoons, Rockfrd, Sterling40 x2, Brucemc, 2007 Magical Mystery Trade, Redskullz x2, Stephengroy, Lyus_Sleyden, Foolforthought, 2008 Magical Mystery Trade, Kilsek x4, Generic Fighter, Auric, Relientkitten x3
Pending trades ( 0 ):
WotC trades ( 1 ): Red_Deceiver
Bad trades ( 2 ): LeftEyeofGruumsh, Yotebeth | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
7713 Posts
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Shottglazz
Underboss
1184 Posts
Quinte West, Ontario, Canada
| | 07/10/2008 12:30 PM |
| | LOL good idea | |
Shottglazz
"Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand;
I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me."
Completed trades ( 53 ): Pikel, Darrell x2, JeffDHarvey, BiggPappa001, Ghendar, Valinrook X2, Wolfgang x4, Wraithborne x6, Mr Ruffles, Anothermullen, CKissee x3, Browns_Scoundrel, Kyrin, GuJiaXian x2, Tyngfumv, Basic_Aim, Mickey Mouse, Berus316, Crisisman, Zoons, Rockfrd, Sterling40 x2, Brucemc, 2007 Magical Mystery Trade, Redskullz x2, Stephengroy, Lyus_Sleyden, Foolforthought, 2008 Magical Mystery Trade, Kilsek x4, Generic Fighter, Auric, Relientkitten x3
Pending trades ( 0 ):
WotC trades ( 1 ): Red_Deceiver
Bad trades ( 2 ): LeftEyeofGruumsh, Yotebeth | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
7713 Posts
| | 07/10/2008 1:00 PM |
| | I guess the last part is the Skill Points, do those increase? Not counting the ability modifier, but the actual spending points. | |
Greyhaze's DDM Spoilers
Champion of a Medium Dog & then a Darkenbeast , Raistlin Majere, Nightmare WDQ25/60, Warduke WD60/60,
Anti-Champion of Guns, "Knight of Bugbears", and Joke Champion of Venger.
Called Shots: Frost Giant in Dangerous Delves. | |
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notserious
Sneak
117 Posts
| | 07/11/2008 7:25 AM |
| | bonuses of the same type do not stack, with the exception of dodge bonuses, armor bonuses for armor and shield, the enhancement bonuses on armor and shield and unnamed bonuses. Thus, whether they come from a ring, a cloak, a spell or an ioun stone, an 'enhancement' bonus +2 will not stack with another 'enhancement' bonus +2. This is also why two rings of protection +1 (deflection bonus) do not stack. It is also why unnamed bonuses, and the rarer bonus types (inspiration, divine and vile, for example) are cherished - and why game designers make them uncommon, otherwise it would be some much easier and cheaper to get three +2 items than one +6 item. By them way, when you stack different types of bonuses, you can exceed the +6 - that's how the min-maxers can get just ridiculously high stats on their chief attribute. | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
7713 Posts
| | 07/11/2008 8:14 PM |
| | Could you point me in the direction that is stated, I couldn't find it. Where as the +6 limit is clearly stated, so how is that surpassed? | |
Greyhaze's DDM Spoilers
Champion of a Medium Dog & then a Darkenbeast , Raistlin Majere, Nightmare WDQ25/60, Warduke WD60/60,
Anti-Champion of Guns, "Knight of Bugbears", and Joke Champion of Venger.
Called Shots: Frost Giant in Dangerous Delves. | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
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greyhaze
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notserious
Sneak
117 Posts
| | 07/14/2008 8:28 AM |
| | as to the skills question, if I recall correctly, only permanent stat increases result in extra skill points (i.e., from wishes, gained levels, or the book you read and get a gain). In those cases, your character starts to get the increased skill points from that point on (unlike hp, where the bonus hp from constitution includes previously gained levels). items that provide an int boost whenever they are active or worn (headband of intellect, ioun stones) do not provide a skill point increase. | |
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greyhaze
Warlord
7713 Posts
| | 07/14/2008 8:31 AM |
| | Thanks. I found that in the DMG somewhere, I think it was under enhancement bonuses iirc. I never really had to worry about this stuff before, first time I've gotten a wizard to level 12 and had items... | |
Greyhaze's DDM Spoilers
Champion of a Medium Dog & then a Darkenbeast , Raistlin Majere, Nightmare WDQ25/60, Warduke WD60/60,
Anti-Champion of Guns, "Knight of Bugbears", and Joke Champion of Venger.
Called Shots: Frost Giant in Dangerous Delves. | |
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