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Mjollnir
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08/16/2008 2:23 AM
Imagine a hidden rogue in a lair of a beholder. If she managed to keep herself unseen, then drinks a potion of invisibility, and is dimension-doored or teleported to the "back" of the beholder (meaning just behind its central eye). Could the rogue successfully sneak attack the beholder? I guess so, but I expect your opinions.

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Wolfgang
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08/16/2008 3:06 AM
i would have to say yes you could

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08/17/2008 8:31 AM
I don't know the answer for sure, but if it happened in my game, I would allow the sneak attack, but probably would require an opposed listen/move silently check if the teleport/dimension door didn't also occur on the rogue's turn.

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Mjollnir
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Canary Islands - Spain

08/17/2008 8:40 AM
Posted By Wraithborne on 08/17/2008 8:31 AM I don't know the answer for sure, but if it happened in my game, I would allow the sneak attack, but probably would require an opposed listen/move silently check if the teleport/dimension door didn't also occur on the rogue's turn. That sounds quite reasonable, of course.

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greyhaze
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08/18/2008 8:29 AM
How does the rogue see where to teleport to without the beholder seeing the rogue? In all honesty, if the rogue was dimension doored I'd give them a surprise action just for having the drop on the beholder due to unforeseen speed of the act (basically being able to act before the initiative order), but I can be generous at times.

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