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Originally posted by IHawk

i like the barbi/druid concept...very versatile with your
rage and wild shape or fast movement and spellcasting. Plus i've always liked the pc's who chose legitimate combos instead of purely by the numbers type combos (ex-barbarian/monks)

let us know if it works out.

mark kelly - Ihawk

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Originally posted by Satsujin Kingyo

Paladin/Rogue

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Paladin/Rogue

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I know this combo is perfectly legal in 3rd ED but coming from someone who was there for 1st ED, this combo just seems soooooo wrong. What noble, self respecting paladin would lower himself to take rogue levels?

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Paladin/Rogue

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I know this combo is perfectly legal in 3rd ED but coming from someone who was there for 1st ED, this combo just seems soooooo wrong. What noble, self respecting paladin would lower himself to take rogue levels?

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Originally posted by Niccolo

Couldn't help but notice, doesn't a barbarian have to be chaotic, and a monk lawful? If I was judging this in a home campaign, an ex-barbarian who changes alignment away from chaotic definitely loses her ability to get her rage-on.

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LN level 1 monk/level X druid
lose one level of druid progression to get +2 to saves and WIS bonus to AC....yikes.

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Hmmm....

Anything Sorcerer/Blood Magus (Nasty plus)

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I always thought about progressing from a Bard/Rogue character into the Assassin prestige class.

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I always thought about progressing from a Bard/Rogue character into the Assassin prestige class.

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Ah, in Arcanis that is a definite thing, as their God of Music is also the God of Assassins (Cadic). Works perfect as everyone knows us performing types are perfectly stable and would do nothing underhanded.

[)]

Dan Cooper

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Also a good enough Bard will get invited to play at the homes of Nobles. It's the prefect time to pick up new clients or take care of existing buisness.

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Originally posted by eryador

Been thinking on that Paladin/Rogue. The RP reasoning could be that the character was a Rogue first and 'changed' their ways and saw the light. They of course would not progress in the rogue class, and RPing it might be interesting as the character is always fighting himself trying to not slip into his old ways. Or trying to use his old skills rarely hoping to stay on the right path.

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Been thinking on that Paladin/Rogue. The RP reasoning could be that the character was a Rogue first and 'changed' their ways and saw the light. They of course would not progress in the rogue class, and RPing it might be interesting as the character is always fighting himself trying to not slip into his old ways. Or trying to use his old skills rarely hoping to stay on the right path.

Hrmmm wish I had thought of this for my current Paladin. He is a Paladin/Cleric of Tyr (Forgotten Realms God of Justice for those who might not know). Worshippers of Tyr can freely multiclass so he can take levels in Cleric and still go back and take leves in Paladin. Next I think is the Hospitaler PrC. I can still gain cleric spell levels and still progress in some Paladin abilities.

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You're missing my point. There's nothing about sneaking up on a foe and slitting his throat that conflicts with being lawful or good; nor is it unhonorable. Perhaps not as valorous an approach to combat as that of the traditional Paladin, but an effective (and perfectly acceptable) one.

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Thats what I'm saying, honor is by nature undefinable. Paladins can have their own take on honor, just as long as they commit lawful and good acts.

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Originally posted by warty_nosed_goblin

OK, here's one that I've not thought out at all, but sounds kinda promising:
ranger2/fighter, take two weapon fighting, then dual wield bastard swords... sure you don't hit very well, but have pretty good damage output, wear a buckler on you off-hand arm so you can gain +1AC when moving and attacking maybe, I can't remember what that does to your off-hand attack bonus when making a full attack though.

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Originally posted by R-man

Further on the Paladin Rogue concept, it depends on what Rogue skills you are going to buy. You don't have to touch Move Silently and Hide, instead go for a mix of Spot,Search,Listen,Disable and the Charisma based skills and you end up with a well trained Holy Warrior who understands weak spots and vulnerabilities in combat and is a trained diplomat and mechanical traps specialist. Wear Heavy armor and don't worry about Tumble and Evasion and just live with the armor check penalty.

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OK, here's one that I've not thought out at all, but sounds kinda promising:
ranger2/fighter, take two weapon fighting, then dual wield bastard swords... sure you don't hit very well, but have pretty good damage output, wear a buckler on you off-hand arm so you can gain +1AC when moving and attacking maybe, I can't remember what that does to your off-hand attack bonus when making a full attack though.

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Don't you need exotic weapon proficiency to wield a bastard sword one handed?

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