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10/13/2005 5:40 PM  
Hello,

Any other leaks in the past few days about this book?

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10/13/2005 7:51 PM  
Absolutely nothing.

We're all talking about Heroes of Horror and Fiendish Codex I over on ENworld. [:)]

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Absolutely nothing.

We're all talking about Heroes of Horror and Fiendish Codex I over on ENworld. [:)]

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Yeah, I have seen those discussions. Heros of Horror has not really caught my interest yet. I want to see a couple of reviews first.

The Fiendish Codex does sond very interesting, but as it not going to be released until Next June, I am not as excited about it as a book coming out in two months.

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10/18/2005 4:55 PM  
Well,

According to a news bit at the WotC website, the Spell Compendium is now at the printer. Whatever is in there for us is now locked in.

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10/29/2005 12:17 AM  
Hello,

So, is anyone else really hoping for more inforamtion on the spell compendium in Previews next week?

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10/31/2005 11:47 AM  
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Hello,

So, is anyone else really hoping for more inforamtion on the spell compendium in Previews next week?

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Yes that would be me! [)] Sure I'd rather have split the books between Arcane and Divine but regardless, I am stoked about it's up coming release!

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quote:
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Hello,

So, is anyone else really hoping for more inforamtion on the spell compendium in Previews next week?

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Yes that would be me! [)] Sure I'd rather have split the books between Arcane and Divine but regardless, I am stoked about it's up coming release!

With the amount of crossover between these two I'm actually really happy they aren't doing that.

Now if only this book came with something like a CD with text documents of all the spells. I have every book put out by WotC, and the main problem I always get is the amount of time pouring through books takes. I wish I could just go ahead and copy/paste the file descriptions into a file and just print that out.

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11/01/2005 5:19 PM  
A CD would be great, better yet I'd like a mini DVD! So little space so cute! [:D]

Another option would be for WotC to do it online but without full details like they did last week with feats from of the books.

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11/01/2005 5:32 PM  
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A CD would be great, better yet I'd like a mini DVD! So little space so cute! [:D]

Another option would be for WotC to do it online but without full details like they did last week with feats from of the books.



That is an excellent idea. I doubt it will happen, however, as it might be seen as cutting down on book sales.

And, to hijack my own thread, I think the list of feats on the website likely means we will not see a compilation of feats book soon, as that part is being provided free?

Well, all specualtion of course. Let's see what we find out on Thursday.

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A CD would be great, better yet I'd like a mini DVD! So little space so cute! [:D]

Another option would be for WotC to do it online but without full details like they did last week with feats from of the books.

Nah, won't work. I really need access to the meat of the spells as much as the general info.

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11/03/2005 12:14 AM  
Counting down the hours/minutes/seconds now until November Previews are posted. Hoping that there is more info about the Spell Compendium.

Am I addicted or obsessive/compulsive yet? [)]

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Nah, won't work. I really need access to the meat of the spells as much as the general info.



Probably won't be enough for any of us, but that wouldn't stop WotC from doing it. I figure it would be better than nothing...though I still want my mini DVD!

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11/04/2005 6:57 PM  
Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy

November Previews are up ...

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/iw/20051104a

The bit about the Spell compendium reads as follows:




So, like I said last month, if you've got a spellcasting character, you're going to want to feast your eyes on this 288-page smorgasbord of spells. Designed to be the ideal companion to your Player's Handbook,the Spell Compendium is a hardcovered compilation of the most useful/popular/useful spells gathered from over a dozen D&D supplements and a pile of articles published here on the fabulous D&D website as well as in the invaluable monthly resource you all know as Dragonmagazine.So, not only can you lessen the number of books you lug around to each game, but you probably can discover a number of new spells you never knew you couldn't live without.

So, what's actually in there? Starting from the back of the book, you'll find an exhaustive list of domain spells as well as class-by-class spell lists of what you'll find inside the book. (Again, all of this information complements the lists you'll find in the Player's Handbook, but does not incorporate or replace them.) After all of that, what's left is page after page after page of spells -- 244 pages of spells to be more accurate. Last month, I showed you the back-of-book text. This month, I thought I'd give you a look at just one of the vast array (I don't even want to think about counting them) of spells you'll find inside those covers. (Take note of the italicized text between the stat block and the standard description of the spell -- each spell's entry now includes a brief, but illustrative, description of what transpires as a character actually casts it.)

CHAIN MISSILE
Evocation [Force]
Level: Sorcerer/wizard 3
Components: V, S
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: Long (400 ft. + 40 ft./level)
Target: One creature, plus one more creature/2 levels (each of which must be within 30 ft. of the primary target)
Duration: Instantaneous
Saving Throw: None
Spell Resistance: Yes

Bolts of pale blue energy spring forth from your finger and slam into the desired target. An instant later, the bolts bounce away toward other creatures, slamming into each one.

Missiles of magical energy dart from your fingertip to unerringly strike a creature. The missiles strike one creature initially, then spring to other targets. Each missile deals 1d4+1 points of force damage. One missile strikes the primary target per two caster levels, to a maximum of ten missiles (dealing 10d4+10 points of damage). After the missiles strike, they ricochet to a number of targets up to the number of missiles created by the spell. Each secondary target takes 1d4+1 points of damage, as if struck by a single magic missile. You choose secondary targets as you like, but they must all be within 30 feet of the primary target, and no secondary target can be struck more than once. You can choose to affect fewer secondary targets than the maximum (to avoid allies in the area, for example). Missiles without a secondary target do not ricochet off the primary target.

Spells, magic items, and abilities that protect against magic missile (such as the shield spell or a brooch of shielding) also protect against this spell. If the primary target has that sort of protection, the spell has no effect against it but still springs to all secondary targets. (A brooch of shielding loses a number of charges equal to the number of missiles hitting the creature?up to ten missiles.) If spell resistance causes the spell to fail to harm the primary target, the spell fails and missiles do not ricochet to additional targets.

The missiles strike unerringly, even if the targets are in melee or have anything less then total cover or concealment. You cannot single out specific parts of a creature to strike. This spell cannot target or damage inanimate

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11/04/2005 8:22 PM  
Not waiting until December, using that spell now! Higher level magic missile spell the perfect 3rd level spell when area of effect is out of the question! [:D]

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11/04/2005 11:33 PM  
Yeah, that one does look like a cool spell.

I also like the reference to large lists of Domains and Domain spells. I was really hoping for that.

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11/05/2005 2:10 PM  
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I also like the reference to large lists of Domains and Domain spells. I was really hoping for that.

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Yes I figured that would make you happy. [)]

It will definitely be handy, will it just be domains listed in other non-campaign setting sources (Such as the Draconomicon or Complete Divine) or will they include everying that's appeared in Forgotten Realms and Eberron?

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11/05/2005 8:07 PM  
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I also like the reference to large lists of Domains and Domain spells. I was really hoping for that.

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Yes I figured that would make you happy. [)]

It will definitely be handy, will it just be domains listed in other non-campaign setting sources (Such as the Draconomicon or Complete Divine) or will they include everying that's appeared in Forgotten Realms and Eberron?



That is the question now. I am hoping that they will include all domains from the Complete series, Campaign settings and the monster books.

I don't expect to see domains from the Mature series and from the "Heros of" series, but I could be wrong.

Maybe once the designer interview goes up we will know.

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11/06/2005 5:25 AM  
Don't expect the 'Mature' stuff myself, but now that I know the book has them, (I've embraced this as not an only arcane supplement) I'm anxious to see what domains we get!

Also have to agree the Hero books (I assume they have them) aren't likely to be published since they are both very new.

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11/07/2005 5:09 PM  
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Don't expect the 'Mature' stuff myself, but now that I know the book has them, (I've embraced this as not an only arcane supplement) I'm anxious to see what domains we get!

Also have to agree the Hero books (I assume they have them) aren't likely to be published since they are both very new.



Here's to hoping that we both get what we want.

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11/09/2005 7:52 PM  
Hello,

It seems that the cover art for the Spell Compendium has changed. Not sure if I like this better than the previous art or not. So far, it is not growing on me.

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/dndacc/885987200

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11/10/2005 2:34 AM  
Not sure how I feel about it either, but it does fit more with the feel of the core books.

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11/10/2005 5:39 AM  
I really hope this book is worthwhile. If so, it would be the first book I've thought worth buying since I got Complete Adventurer.

However, I can't make a decision until I see it in my hands.

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11/11/2005 8:03 PM  
Sigh. I miss a lot of old 2.0 spells that haven't been reproduced yet. I hope we see some of them. I'm very fond of the old Spell Compendiums.. since I was the source text provider for TSR. [:D]

I still have the database I used for the project.

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Sigh. I miss a lot of old 2.0 spells that haven't been reproduced yet. I hope we see some of them. I'm very fond of the old Spell Compendiums.. since I was the source text provider for TSR. [:D]

I still have the database I used for the project.




I am fond of the 2e spell compendiums as well. Too bad this book will not be an all inclusive book of published spells to date like the spell compendiums were. I much prefer the all or nothing approach, but then again I am the completist type.

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Sigh. I miss a lot of old 2.0 spells that haven't been reproduced yet. I hope we see some of them. I'm very fond of the old Spell Compendiums.. since I was the source text provider for TSR. [:D]

I still have the database I used for the project.




I am fond of the 2e spell compendiums as well. Too bad this book will not be an all inclusive book of published spells to date like the spell compendiums were. I much prefer the all or nothing approach, but then again I am the completist type.



Who knows, they may do a complete, complete guide in the future.

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11/14/2005 9:24 PM  
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quote:
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Sigh. I miss a lot of old 2.0 spells that haven't been reproduced yet. I hope we see some of them. I'm very fond of the old Spell Compendiums.. since I was the source text provider for TSR. [:D]

I still have the database I used for the project.



Who knows, they may do a complete, complete guide in the future.

Cheers [:)]


Well thats if the 3.5 lasts long enough to do another book of spells. I liked the format of the old book, very completist, including AD&D 1.0 stuff.

The spell production was much better in the old days IMO. I think we're getting fewer spells in the books.

BTW I just not happy with the content and prices of the current books, too much fluff like "adventure locations" (ie stuff that should be a module, not a book).

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11/18/2005 2:32 PM  
Hmmm ...

I need to bump this up so we can keep speculating.

I am surprised that we have not hear more about this book considering it is releasing in 2 weeks. Guess it does not generate quite the interest of Fiendish Codex I, etc.

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11/23/2005 11:30 PM  
Hello,

News about the Spell Compendium Vol. 1 is now starting to leak out. It seems that copies were on sale at GenCon SoCal.

More information is found:

http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=157452

For my interest it looks like we have a total of 65 domains in the work. I don't recognize all of the names, but for anyone else interested:

Domains are:

Balance
Cavern
Celerity
Charm
Cold
Community
Competition
Courage
Craft
Creation
Darkness
Deathbound
Domination
Dragon
Dream
Drow
Dwarf
Elf
Envy
Family
Fate
Force
Glory
Gluttony
Gnome
Greed
Halfling
Hatred
Hunger
Illusion
Inquisition
Liberation
Lust
Madness
Mentalism
Mental
Mind
Moon
Mysticism
Nobility
Ocean
Oracle
Orc
Pact
Pestilence
Planning
Portal
Pride
Purification
Renewal
Retribution
Rune
Scalykind
Slime
Sloth
Spell
Spider
Storm
Suffering
Summoner
Time
Trade
Tyranny
Undeath
Wealth
Windstorm
Wrath

Planar Domains

Abyss
Arborea
Baator
Celestia
Elysium
Hades
Limbo
Mechanus

My thanks to Gothmog over at ENWorld.

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11/24/2005 12:59 AM  
I was hoping they'd ignore the Planar Domains. Oh well.

Good to see a lot of the good ones in there. It definitely will help my decision on this book as I get sick and tired of weeding through a half dozen books for the information on domains.

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Does anyone know what date this product becomes available? Does WoTC have specific release dates for their non DDM material?


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11/24/2005 11:19 AM  
Thanks for the update! I'm going to have to head over to Enworld now.

Excellent list of domains but I don't think thats all of them (at least it looks like a few FR domains weren't added. Can't even say anything about Eberron.)

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11/24/2005 12:08 PM  
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Does anyone know what date this product becomes available? Does WoTC have specific release dates for their non DDM material?


B,

If WotC holds to recent practice for releases, this book should be out the first Friday of December (the 4th I think).

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11/24/2005 12:14 PM  
Sweet. I'm REEEEAAAALLLLYY close to deciding to buy it. It is $53.95 Canadian though. That seems a lot for spells. My birthday is on the 6th though....hmmmm....we'll see how it goes.

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11/24/2005 12:26 PM  
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Sweet. I'm REEEEAAAALLLLYY close to deciding to buy it. It is $53.95 Canadian though. That seems a lot for spells. My birthday is on the 6th though....hmmmm....we'll see how it goes.

Thanks Omand [:D]


No problem. I just realized that I have the date wrong as well. December 2nd is the first Friday of the month.

Hopefully your local store will have a lower price than $53.95. The Canadian dollar has increased in price enough that the price differential that WotC cites is not appropriate in my opinion. Of course, there is always Amazon.ca.

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11/24/2005 12:38 PM  
Well, my FLGS is usually really good about the conversion. I don't think I've paid the suggested retail price yet. Unfortunately, the shop is a 40 min drive away. The gaming store that is closest to me pretty much charges suggested retail...or more.

Hmmm....40 min drive for good price vs. 5 min drive for bad price.
I think that WoTC needs to look at that canadian price again....


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11/24/2005 12:51 PM  
quote:
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Well, my FLGS is usually really good about the conversion. I don't think I've paid the suggested retail price yet. Unfortunately, the shop is a 40 min drive away. The gaming store that is closest to me pretty much charges suggested retail...or more.

Hmmm....40 min drive for good price vs. 5 min drive for bad price.
I think that WoTC needs to look at that canadian price again....

B,

I am with you on the price. I can understand WotC's position, however, as if the Canadian dollar takes a hit again and goes down suddenly, they could take a large loss.

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11/24/2005 1:15 PM  
Hmm...I don't know about that. Once the stock is bought by the distributers WoTC has the money in hand. If the dollar drops after that they still got paid.


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11/24/2005 1:23 PM  
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Hmm...I don't know about that. Once the stock is bought by the distributers WoTC has the money in hand. If the dollar drops after that they still got paid.


True, but as I understand it WotC's cut of the sale is based upon MSRP.

A moot point in general, however, as it sounds like both of us will be buying the book soon after release. WotC has our money no matter what.

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11/24/2005 1:43 PM  
Good point. [:D] Damn addictions...first cigarettes...then coffee...now this [:D]


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11/25/2005 3:34 PM  
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B,

I am with you on the price. I can understand WotC's position, however, as if the Canadian dollar takes a hit again and goes down suddenly, they could take a large loss.

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The Canadian dollar has been consistantly up at less than 20% exchange for over a year. Yes WotC charges us 30+% on every book. Our economy is, while not exactly booming, performing well enough to sustain such an exchange rate for the forseeable future. It is simply using the mindset here in Canada that our dollar is weak against the US greenback to squeeze that extra bit out of the Canadian consumer.

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