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12/11/2007 4:07 PM  
Posted By jacksonm on 12/11/2007 2:31 PM
Speaking of minis, is anyone interested in a Dreamblade sealed game next Friday (the 21st)?


If i have spare cash I will be interested. Would the 50% off apply to that Scott?

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12/12/2007 7:11 AM  
I love computers. The new hard drive didn't show up yet, and the old one deleted my World of Warcrat installation. So now I'm re-installing it. Ugh.

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12/12/2007 7:38 AM  
Shouldn't you be in school or something? Then again, shouldn't I be working or something?

I'd be up for some dreamblade sealed I guess if we can get enough people committed for a tournament. We'd be using the new set I assume? Night fusion or something like that.


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12/12/2007 7:51 AM  
I was just thinking about what Stormtrooper Steve was saying last Saturday about a huge Battle of Hoth Star Wars minis event.....I for one am interested. Anyone else?

I know everybody has lots of Hoth pieces now, and I have 3 Snowspeeders and an AT-AT, Steve has a couple, I think....lots of Turrets, Speeders, AT-ATs, AT-STs, Snowtroopers, etc....

I think this should be like a team thing, at least 2 players per side and at least 1000 pts.

Any ideas?

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12/12/2007 7:51 AM  
Posted By Richard II on 12/12/2007 7:38 AM
Shouldn't you be in school or something?
Yea, I slept in first period, and my teacher lockes the door when your 10 min. late. But I gottta class at 10:00 so I'll see everyone at Gameknight after School.

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12/12/2007 8:12 AM  
Posted By Richard II on 12/12/2007 7:38 AM
Shouldn't you be in school or something? Then again, shouldn't I be working or something?

I'd be up for some dreamblade sealed I guess if we can get enough people committed for a tournament. We'd be using the new set I assume? Night fusion or something like that.
I figured since it isn't sanctioned or anything people could buy whatever boosters they wanted to.

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12/12/2007 8:44 AM  
Posted By puff_maul on 12/12/2007 7:51 AM
I was just thinking about what Stormtrooper Steve was saying last Saturday about a huge Battle of Hoth Star Wars minis event.....I for one am interested. Anyone else?

I know everybody has lots of Hoth pieces now, and I have 3 Snowspeeders and an AT-AT, Steve has a couple, I think....lots of Turrets, Speeders, AT-ATs, AT-STs, Snowtroopers, etc....

I think this should be like a team thing, at least 2 players per side and at least 1000 pts.

Any ideas?
Certainly an idea worth looking into. I haven't had a chance to look over what scenarios come in the Battle Pack yet and how they would play.

I want to finalize the January schedule soon, there was one "free" SWM slot that was penciled in for a non-sanctioned 200 point tournament. That could be changed, another possiblity is a Sealed event.

I've also been working on an idea for a Star Wars minis League, Rebels & Imperials themed.

It would run 6 sessions, 2 each at 100, 150, and 200 points.

Players would buy into the League during the first session by purchasing a booster of their choice (obviously one where they'd have a chance to get a good number of Rebel or Imperial units). Based on what they pull they would have to decide if they're going to represent the rebelion or the empire throughtout the League. Once they decide which faction they want to play players will have the option to trade the minis they won't or can't use to other players.

Alternatively we could do the first session as a draft, allowing players to select minis from the faction they want more readily.

Once a faction is chosen (Rebels/Imperials) all the League minis you own from said faction must be put into your warband if possible. Any Fringe units you own may be added as well at your discretion. Whatever points you have reamining in the warband may be rounded out with commons or uncommons from your own collection.

At the start of each session players will either buy a new regular booster or perhaps a mini Rebels & Imperials pack, have the option to trade what they're not going to use, and then add the new minis to their warbands.

Games would be played with the standard tournament rules. I will use a points system similar to the new DDM League to deterime the rankings. Each loss, draw, or bye earns a player 1 point. Each win earns them 2 points, but to go with the R&I theme each win against their opposed faction counts for double (4 points).

Final prizes to be awarded based on your place in the fianl point standings.


Let me know what you think.

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12/12/2007 10:33 AM  
Posted By dorge on 12/11/2007 4:07 PM
Posted By jacksonm on 12/11/2007 2:31 PM
Speaking of minis, is anyone interested in a Dreamblade sealed game next Friday (the 21st)?


If i have spare cash I will be interested. Would the 50% off apply to that Scott?


I would be in but I am getting together with some friends from work that evening.

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12/12/2007 10:40 AM  
Mike, for the new D&D commander draft have you considered doing the draft in reverse order of finish of the last league?


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12/12/2007 11:15 AM  
@ MJ - Funny you should mention a SWM League, as I was thinking about that earlier today. My thought was to do it like the first minis league, where 2 boosters were bought, and each new session you could buy an (optional) new booster to add guys to your pool of minis (16 figures), dropping the figures you didn't want.

The new points system works for ranking wins /losses and overall scoring. I like the booster idea better as it keeps things a little more balanced as far as some people having large collections and some not. Luck of the draw factors in with this, but after the first 2-3 sessions everyone should have some good figures.

It just occured to me that the boosters only have 7 figures, and I guess your pool would be 14 figures, unless we raised the "buy-in" to 3 boxes of boosters, players choice, and set the figure limit at 16 (or 20 or 21).

Another idea would be to "draft" a prize booster into your pool, except the rares (again, helps keep balance). This would allow you to add more commons and uncommons without having to buy a booster to do so. I say to leave the rares out because if one person gets ahead, he'll get more rares and continue to get further ahead. That way the winner of a tourney will have to decide to take the rare for his collection because it has more value, or the best uncommon to add to his pool of figures to better his chances in the overall league.

If you want to go rebels and imperials, that could be kind of limiting and complicate things, but perhaps after session 2 or 3 the players can choose between light side and dark side, with fringe making up the balance of your squad.

Thoughts?

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12/12/2007 11:21 AM  
Posted By Richard II on 12/12/2007 10:40 AM
Mike, for the new D&D commander draft have you considered doing the draft in reverse order of finish of the last league?
It was considered, an option I could go with if everyone's picks are more or less the same but so far there's a reasonable amount of variety in them so everyone should get one of their top 2 for the first pass.

The plan is to keep it random now.


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12/12/2007 11:55 AM  
Posted By The Beer Baron on 12/12/2007 11:15 AM
@ MJ - Funny you should mention a SWM League, as I was thinking about that earlier today. My thought was to do it like the first minis league, where 2 boosters were bought, and each new session you could buy an (optional) new booster to add guys to your pool of minis (16 figures), dropping the figures you didn't want.

The new points system works for ranking wins /losses and overall scoring. I like the booster idea better as it keeps things a little more balanced as far as some people having large collections and some not. Luck of the draw factors in with this, but after the first 2-3 sessions everyone should have some good figures.

It just occured to me that the boosters only have 7 figures, and I guess your pool would be 14 figures, unless we raised the "buy-in" to 3 boxes of boosters, players choice, and set the figure limit at 16 (or 20 or 21).

Another idea would be to "draft" a prize booster into your pool, except the rares (again, helps keep balance). This would allow you to add more commons and uncommons without having to buy a booster to do so. I say to leave the rares out because if one person gets ahead, he'll get more rares and continue to get further ahead. That way the winner of a tourney will have to decide to take the rare for his collection because it has more value, or the best uncommon to add to his pool of figures to better his chances in the overall league.

If you want to go rebels and imperials, that could be kind of limiting and complicate things, but perhaps after session 2 or 3 the players can choose between light side and dark side, with fringe making up the balance of your squad.

Thoughts?
The opposite side of that is going with the buying boosters route favors those with bigger wallets. I think that was the failing of the first League, just the thought that you might have to buy boosters to stay competative kept some people away.

The last two sets have pretty much been entirely Rebels and Imperials so I don't see that being too limiting. They are the two dominant factions in the game anyway.


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12/12/2007 12:12 PM  
Bach says no go for Dreamblade next friday. I'm still working on Kerry and Smythe.

I'm thinking ordering some pizzas, playing some Dreamblade, not a bad little Christmas party.

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12/12/2007 1:44 PM  
I've redone my commander sheet. No major changes, a couple things got shuffled around to I think take better advantage of Mike's goal to not get us two commanders of the same faction. But the main reason was to weed out the lowest of the low, the horriblest commanders ever, so without further ado, my five worst commanders:

139 Lord of Blades
140 Champion of Yondalla
141 Elf Ranger
142 Human Cleric of Bane
143 Valorous Prince

Honourable mention to the Grim Necromancer, but he's bad for the same reasons that the human cleric of bane is bad, so I only included one.


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12/12/2007 6:32 PM  
It sounds like we're going to have at least 4 out for tomorrow, but I'm gonna bring along a 200 pt warband in case we don't. Maybe can at least play a game or two then.


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12/12/2007 6:47 PM  
Does anyone want my driftwood dragon staff? I haven't painted it or anything and it's just sitting there.

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12/12/2007 8:15 PM  
Kerry, Nico, Garret, and myself are in for Dreamblade next week. Perhaps more... Sounds like we'll have a tournament.

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12/13/2007 8:09 AM  
!@#$. I forgot my trade stuff at home.


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12/13/2007 8:26 AM  
Posted By ShadowLord XT on 12/12/2007 6:47 PM
Does anyone want my driftwood dragon staff? I haven't painted it or anything and it's just sitting there.
Perhaps you can offer it up as a prize for the new DDM League, which you have yet to sign up for.....

Speaking of the League so far I have draft sheets for 12 players, 2 or 3 more signed up yet to submit their sheets. All draft sheets are due next Saturday, the commanders will be assigned that evening.

Those who don't get their sheets in on time or want to join late are welcome to do so, they'll just select their commanders from what's left.

The first League session will be Saturday January 12th.


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12/13/2007 2:12 PM  
I'm not feeling so hot tonight so I don't think I'll be out for minis tonight. Hopefully you have enough for a tournament.

Have fun everyone.


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12/13/2007 2:25 PM  
Hi DDMers. I have a small problem. I only have 2 boosters of DoD in stock for tonight's sealed tourney. There was what I thought was a full case in the hallway waiting for tonight, but it turns out it wasn't full of DoD boosters. Someone had put some other miscellaneous minis in it that wouldn't fit on the new stand.

Sorry for the mix up.

Options:
1) Pick two other boosters - I have lots of Night Below, Unhallowed, and I'd be willing to put out a case of DeathKnell as well.
2) Change the format to 200 points, sanctioned.
3) Play a DreamBlade sealed with half priced boosters
4) Reschedule to later, say next week, and play 500 points today (might be a headache for the DCI folks)
5) Cancel, and have a night of casual play DDM with no prizes or sanctioning.

I'm open to suggestions also.

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12/13/2007 8:48 PM  
Well, 3 people out means no sanctioned tourney. My lack of boosters was moot. See y'all tomorrow for SWM.

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12/13/2007 9:41 PM  
Here's a couple of my buddies doing stupid S$*&. It's great.

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12/14/2007 7:55 AM  
Mike, I left an updated sheet of my commander rankings at gameknight for the new league.


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12/14/2007 9:05 AM  
Posted By Richard II on 12/14/2007 7:55 AM
Mike, I left an updated sheet of my commander rankings at gameknight for the new league.
Good stuff, I'll make sure to toss out the old one then.

People still have about another week or so to get their sheets in. Keep them coming folks.


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12/14/2007 9:30 AM  
For the Dreamblade tournament next week I think we'll use the 2 booster system, buy whatever boosters you like that Scott has in stock. I'll kick in a booster or two from my demo stock as prizes.

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12/14/2007 9:44 AM  

Here's a rough draft of the January Game Knight schedule. A couple things still need to be added but more or less it's ready to go. Starship Battles makes it way back on to the schedule, I trust all you collectors will come out to support it.

 

Game Knight - Schedule of Events - January

Wednesday

Thursday

Friday

Saturday

 

January 3rd

6:30 pm - D&D Minis

100 points constructed, assault, Sanctioned.

Game Coordinator/Judge: Scott Tackaberry.

January 4th

6:30 pm - Game Knight Board Game Club

Event to be determined.

January 5th

10:00 am – Star Wars Minis – Starship Battles

300 points constructed, Non-Sanctioned

1:00 pm - D&D Minis

200 points Non-Sanctioned. Constructed and Assault format.

January 9th

6:30 pm D&D Wednesdays! RPG groups for D&D are welcome to play here.

January 10th

6:30 pm - D&D Minis

200 points constructed, assault, Sanctioned.

Game Coordinator/Judge: Scott Tackaberry.

January 11th

6:30 pm – Minis Casual Play

Come out and play your favorite minis games in a casual environment for free! We suggest D&D Minis and the MapleStory CCG.

January 12th

10:00 am – Star Wars Minis

150 points, constructed, Sanctioned

Game Coordinator/Judge: Scott Tackaberry.

 1:00 pm - D&D Minis League

200 points Constructed. Come out and play in the 1st installment of the current D&D Minis League

January 16th

6:30 pm D&D Wednesdays! RPG groups for D&D are welcome to play here.

January 17th

6:30 pm – D&D Minis

200 points Sealed, Non-Sanctioned. Buy any two boosters and build your warband.

January 18th

Demo Night Free Event!

6:00 pm – Star Wars Minis

Learn to play Star Wars minis.

Presented by WotC Delegate Mike Jackson. 

6:30 pm - Game Knight Board Game Club

Event to be determined.

January 19th

10:00 am – Star Wars Minis

100 points, constructed, Sanctioned

Game Coordinator/Judge: Scott Tackaberry.

1:00 pm - D&D Minis League

200 points Constructed. Come out and play in the 2nd installment of the current D&D Minis League

January 23rd

6:30 pm D&D Wednesdays! RPG groups for D&D are welcome to play here.

January 24th

6:30 pm – D&D Minis League

200 points Constructed. Come out and play in the 3rd installment of the current D&D Minis League

January 25th

Demo Night Free Event!

6:00 pm - D&D Minis

Learn to play Dungeons & Dragons Miniatures!

Presented by WotC Delegate Mike Jackson. 

6:30 pm – Minis Casual Play

Come out and play your favorite minis games in a casual environment for free! We suggest Star Wars and Dreamblade minis.

January 26th

10:00 am – Star Wars Minis

200 points, constructed, Sanctioned

Game Coordinator/Judge: Scott Tackaberry.

1:00 pm - D&D Minis – Super Epic!

1000 points Non-Sanctioned. Constructed and Assault format.

January 30th

6:30 pm D&D Wednesdays! RPG groups for D&D are welcome to play here.

January 31st

6:30 pm - D&D Minis

500 points Epic, assault, Sanctioned.

Game Coordinator/Judge: Scott Tackaberry.

 

 

 

 


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12/14/2007 10:26 AM  
You're running three league sessions in the month? If you do, I think I'd tend to shuffle them a bit. You've got 3 sessions in 12 days, and then a gap of 16 days till session 4, assuming session four would be the second saturday in february (the 9th). I'd be inclined to make them January 5th, 19th, and 31st. That's roughly two weeks in between each and then 10 days till the first one in february.

Other than that I like it. I like the non sanctioned sealed game, I like the 1000 point game (c'mon everyone show up pleeeeeease?), and I like all the 200 pt games.


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12/14/2007 11:49 AM  
Those are the only 2 Saturdays I'm not working in January so they have to be the dates. I could flip flop the Epic game on the 31st from the League session.

Right now I think the February League schedule might roughly be the 2nd, 12th, and 23rd.

Either way it's going to be a tight League, 9 sessions run over 12 or 13 weeks.

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12/14/2007 12:33 PM  
Hey Beer Baron. Put this Reaper mini on order for me.

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12/14/2007 1:20 PM  
Posted By jacksonm on 12/14/2007 11:49 AM
Those are the only 2 Saturdays I'm not working in January so they have to be the dates. I could flip flop the Epic game on the 31st from the League session.

Right now I think the February League schedule might roughly be the 2nd, 12th, and 23rd.

Either way it's going to be a tight League, 9 sessions run over 12 or 13 weeks.

The 12th of February is a tuesday. Not sure how well scheduling league night for Valentine's Day will work. Doesn't bother me of course, but some others might have issues.

I guess you're trying to get the league finished before DDM 2.0 debuts at the end of march/beginning of april?


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12/14/2007 1:33 PM  
What's says love more than D&D minis?

Like I said, roulghly that. I haven't really taken a look at February yet.

But yes, the feedback I was getting was that people wanted a shorter span between sessions and to have it done before the new rules start to take hold.

Right now I'm figuring it'll be 8 regular sessions, 3 thursdays and 5 saturdays, and the 9th session will be the all important finals.

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12/14/2007 1:43 PM  
Just to clarify, we're not able to switch between warlords during a league night right? We have to play the same warlord (and warband) for all three sessions?


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12/14/2007 2:09 PM  
Posted By Richard II on 12/14/2007 1:43 PM
Just to clarify, we're not able to switch between warlords during a league night right? We have to play the same warlord (and warband) for all three sessions?

Incorrect. Player's are allowed to switch to their other commander after a loss during a league session. They must choose to make the switch before the pairings are anounced for the next round. Once a change is made they must play the new commander for the rest of the session.

If you win you keep playing with the same commander until the next League session.

For the finals no commander switching will be allowed. Choose your commander wisely.

As a side note here's a reminder that after the 4th League session players will have the option of trading in their two commanders for any 1 remaining commander starting from the bottom of the standings and going up.

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12/14/2007 2:33 PM  
Posted By jacksonm on 12/14/2007 12:33 PM
Hey Beer Baron. Put this Reaper mini on order for me.

http://reapermini.com/store/customer/product.php?productid=5092&cat=0&page

Done.  You are now immortalized in my little blue order book.  Remind me again if there were any other figs you were wanting/waiting for.

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12/14/2007 2:53 PM  
Posted By The Beer Baron on 12/14/2007 2:33 PM
Posted By jacksonm on 12/14/2007 12:33 PM
Hey Beer Baron. Put this Reaper mini on order for me.

http://reapermini.com/store/customer/product.php?productid=5092&cat=0&page

Done.  You are now immortalized in my little blue order book.  Remind me again if there were any other figs you were wanting/waiting for.
There's a couple coming in the future but for now I think we're good.


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12/15/2007 8:30 AM  
Have a fun day of minis today everyone while I'm stuck at work like a sucker.

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12/15/2007 8:46 AM  
So only 3 today, Joeseph, Bram & myself. Sigh.....

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12/15/2007 8:57 AM  
Hopefully there's a better turnout for the afternoon D&D tournament. Alas it's the holiday season...

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12/15/2007 10:24 AM  
Posted By jacksonm on 12/15/2007 8:57 AM
Hopefully there's a better turnout for the afternoon D&D tournament. Alas it's the holiday season...


I wouldn't bet on it, but I'm gonna slap together a warband and head on down. I might not get their until a bit after 1 though, depending on how long the slapping takes.

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