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09/30/2005 1:35 AM  
Is our local shop bothered by the DDM situation? Are they backing out support or something? They had so many at the last prerelease that they had to turn people away. I am baffled.

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09/30/2005 8:57 AM  
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Is our local shop bothered by the DDM situation? Are they backing out support or something? They had so many at the last prerelease that they had to turn people away. I am baffled.

I do not know, I will be checking with the owner later today, if he will be in. As for why, I do not know. I will post any news I can. I will also try to get our local PTO to see if he can get something for us. That would mean that we would play somewhere else.

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09/30/2005 10:58 AM  
I could care less where it is held just as long as there's one somewhere in the valley, or even utah county I wouldn't mind. I really hope you're able to work something out Spikegif. Thanks for all your efforts.


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09/30/2005 3:09 PM  
I would be severely disappointed if Utah did not have an Underdark prerelease...

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09/30/2005 9:07 PM  
I have not been able to get any answers today. The TO of the release events has not returned any of my phone calls. He showed up between my 11 and 12 calls.

I have contacted Steve at the West Valley store and he was going to try and find out what the deal is. I also have a call into the PTO and hope something will happen. I also have emails to key WotC event personal hopping that we can still get an event in.

I will post any new info that I can here.

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10/01/2005 12:53 AM  
Thanks for your efforts spikegif. The P-R's are about the only ones I can make it out to attend. If there is anything I can do to help, let me know.

If it's location, I'm sure we can work it out.


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10/01/2005 11:33 AM  
I haven't been able to get ahold of Rob as of yet either. But I expect that we can get things going still. There may be issues with some FNM events at the Provo store, that had to be cancelled, and the cards have not been returned or some other problem.


This isn't an issue with pulling out support from Game Den. From what I understand Rob still is Utah's PTO for the miniatures games, and will continue to do so. If they gave the position to someone else like the MTG PTO, the game would suffer, and I for one would not be able to play in any events for safety reasons. The PTO for MTG has threatened my physical well-being on more than one occasion, and has slandered my reputation to many people because I upset him. It would be much better contacting Hastur's Hobbies, but I do believe the issue can be resolved early next week.

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10/01/2005 3:27 PM  
Spikegif contacted the owner of Game Den today and got the impression there wasn't going to be a prerelease event at Game Den this time.

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10/01/2005 10:19 PM  
finially got to talk to Rob, the TO for almost all DDM and SWM events held in UT. He informed me that in the past for release and prerelease event WotC has contacted him about running an event. He would them respond by email with them informing them if he wanted one or not. He has not been contacted and was not awair that the prereleases have been anounced. He still thinks that he will be contacted for an event.

Any updates I will post.

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10/01/2005 10:26 PM  
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This isn't an issue with pulling out support from Game Den. From what I understand Rob still is Utah's PTO for the miniatures games, and will continue to do so. If they gave the position to someone else like the MTG PTO, the game would suffer, and I for one would not be able to play in any events for safety reasons. The PTO for MTG has threatened my physical well-being on more than one occasion, and has slandered my reputation to many people because I upset him. It would be much better contacting Hastur's Hobbies, but I do believe the issue can be resolved early next week.
I do not have any contact info with Hastur's Hobbies. I have tied to talk to people there about getting events their and they never showed any interest. I do not even know who to talk to. They do not have the space to run an event either, too many computers and painting going on. I would like that things were kept at the game den, but past major events have had a few problems, info not being sent by WotC, no prize support being sent, and missing paper work.

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10/02/2005 11:40 AM  
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This isn't an issue with pulling out support from Game Den. From what I understand Rob still is Utah's PTO for the miniatures games, and will continue to do so. If they gave the position to someone else like the MTG PTO, the game would suffer, and I for one would not be able to play in any events for safety reasons. The PTO for MTG has threatened my physical well-being on more than one occasion, and has slandered my reputation to many people because I upset him. It would be much better contacting Hastur's Hobbies, but I do believe the issue can be resolved early next week.
I do not have any contact info with Hastur's Hobbies. I have tied to talk to people there about getting events their and they never showed any interest. I do not even know who to talk to. They do not have the space to run an event either, too many computers and painting going on. I would like that things were kept at the game den, but past major events have had a few problems, info not being sent by WotC, no prize support being sent, and missing paper work.



Yes, it seems that every major event I have been to at Game Den has had some problems. There is too much haphazard disorganization and procrastination involved in connection with the owner.

From what I can tell, Jarvissteven does pretty well in his sphere as an employee.

The frustration is starting to outweigh the fun of the event, though.

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10/05/2005 10:55 AM  
update,

no new info to report.

I do have 2 different locations that have placed contacting info in regarding getting or why we did not get an event.

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10/06/2005 1:31 PM  
We got an event.

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Thank you for writing.

We have a Prerelease in Utah for Underdark, at the Game Den WVC. It was not listed on the first Prerelease list we posted because the organizer didn't respond to our solicitation until just a couple days ago.

Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you!

Our TO did not know anthing about a prerelease until I contacted him by phone (tired by email). I received a email responce from him 3 days later letting me know that he had no info on it. As you can see, he finialy contacted WotC. [:)]

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10/06/2005 1:46 PM  
Will we have pre-event sign ups this time? That way we can avoid problems like the last event where a valued member of the community (Toxic_Rat) was unable to participate because he was running a little late.

If so, please put my son, Greyson, and me down for the event.

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10/06/2005 2:01 PM  
Ditto for me.

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10/06/2005 2:26 PM  
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Will we have pre-event sign ups this time? That way we can avoid problems like the last event where a valued member of the community (Toxic_Rat) was unable to participate because he was running a little late.

If so, please put my son, Greyson, and me down for the event.

chattan

Other problems about pre-registreation is that our last event we had several people pre-register and when they showed up, their spots had been sold to some other players. Not very good comunication with the workers.

I am not sure on how the product is sent to the store. WotC posts that the limit is 40 players. That would be 8 cases (prize support also) of product that would need to be send. Does WotC send all 8 cases or does the TO order the cases he wants? Knowing that answer we can figure out where the blame is.

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10/06/2005 7:14 PM  
Sign me up for any list that comes out. Glad to hear that we'll be having an event though. Thanks for tracking this down for everyone. I'm guessing the date is 10/29, right?

As for 'valued', thanks Chattan. I think I was just a valued target for spikegif at the SoCal qualifier [)] but glad to have helped out anyway I can. Looking forward to the PreRel and seeing everyone again.


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10/07/2005 12:05 AM  
Good news. Sorry about my initial pessimism. It was quite frustrating thinking there would not be an event.

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10/07/2005 1:29 AM  
I will also be attending.

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10/07/2005 7:32 AM  
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We now have a prerelease event for Utah. I will post more as I get it.
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10/07/2005 11:59 PM  
The Issue had to do with a e-mail filter, and a new person at WOTC sending info to the TO's. This resulted in Rob not getting the info. to request the event. Things were fixed Tuesday morning but I hadn't talked to Rob till tonight to confirm.

As far as the last event went, we had a stellar turn out and didn't have the right product order made out for the event. Could be worse. The MTG pre-release in Utah turned away around 100 players because they ran the event in a small place. We hope this won't ever happen again.


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10/10/2005 1:02 AM  
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Since this event will be held on Halloween weekend and many of us gamer geeks like to dress up (or are married to people who like their costumes), can we make it happen in a timely fashion so that we can enjoy the festivities later on that evening?

One thing we can do is eliminate the 4 player playoff after the swiss rounds. 5-6 rounds of swiss seem perfectly adequate to determine the winners of the prize support for an event of this level.

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10/10/2005 10:50 AM  
If we don't have to hold the 'finals' I would vote with Chattan on this one. I always figured that WoTC required the finals, but I didn't find anything to that effect in my limited search of their website.

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10/10/2005 5:25 PM  
Does the fact sheet state we need to have the top 4 play off?

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10/11/2005 11:53 AM  
I am taking some time off of AutumnCon to attend this event. I may come in costume as well, we'll see...

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10/11/2005 2:58 PM  
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I am taking some time off of AutumnCon to attend this event. I may come in costume as well, we'll see...

Where is autumncon? what will be happening? SciFi only or rpg?

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10/12/2005 1:02 PM  
http://autumncon.org/x/page/

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10/12/2005 2:37 PM  
found it yesterday. Checked it out, no DDM [:(] why go? [:)]

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10/12/2005 7:52 PM  
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You could always come with your wife each wearing your costume.

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10/13/2005 2:09 AM  
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Chattan

You could always come with your wife each wearing your costume.



That didn't answer his question.

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10/13/2005 3:05 PM  
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You could always come with your wife each wearing your costume.



Hehe...good idea, but I don't think it'll go over too well. [:P]

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10/13/2005 4:14 PM  
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Since this event will be held on Halloween weekend and many of us gamer geeks like to dress up (or are married to people who like their costumes), can we make it happen in a timely fashion so that we can enjoy the festivities later on that evening?
You know that Halloween is on Monday? [:)][)][:o)]

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10/13/2005 4:48 PM  
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quote:
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Since this event will be held on Halloween weekend and many of us gamer geeks like to dress up (or are married to people who like their costumes), can we make it happen in a timely fashion so that we can enjoy the festivities later on that evening?
You know that Halloween is on Monday? [:)][)][:o)]



Yep, but any exciting parties will be held on Saturday night rather than Monday being it's a school night.

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10/13/2005 5:39 PM  
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Yep, but any exciting parties will be held on Saturday night rather than Monday being it's a school night.

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Who ever has "exciting" parties? [:)]

Will you still be making it with your son?

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10/13/2005 5:51 PM  
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Yep, but any exciting parties will be held on Saturday night rather than Monday being it's a school night.

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Who ever has "exciting" parties? [:)]

Will you still be making it with your son?



We are planning on being there.

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10/13/2005 5:54 PM  
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Will you still be making it with your son?



We are planning on being there.

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My buddy Troy will be attending as well.

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10/13/2005 8:48 PM  
We still have the question out there as to whether we're going to be doing swiss only, or swiss+finals. Does anyone know? Or do we just show up and find out then?

Guess in a way it doesn't matter, I still plan on coming. Just nice to know how much time to figure on.


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10/14/2005 9:31 AM  
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We still have the question out there as to whether we're going to be doing swiss only, or swiss+finals. Does anyone know? Or do we just show up and find out then?
This info has not been posted by wizards. With the supplies that WotC sends to the TO an event FAQ sheet is sent. This sheet has the ruls like that listed in them. With it not being posted on the WotC web site stating that is how it is to be played, I do not think it will be required for the Prerelease. Events that I have seen that have required that have been posted as such. I do not think we will know for sure until then.

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10/14/2005 10:11 AM  
Ah, ok. Well, at least we're set up to have the PreR. Looking forward to seeing everyone again.


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