The Beer Baron
Underboss
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"Champion of the Centaur Commander. Knight of the Gnoll Druid. Vindicated Champion of the Dragon Wrought Kobold!
 | | 07/12/2006 5:31 PM |
| The GameKnight schedule has been updated on the web and printed for pickup here in the store.
I have added Star Wars Minis on July 22nd and August 19th. Both games have been submitted to DCI for sanctioning. They will each be 100 point builds. I'll mix it up a little starting in Sept with Limited sealed games, and 200 point games as well. | |
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stonefro2000
Sergeant
465 Posts
| | 07/12/2006 6:03 PM |
| see ya all soon
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Kai
Skirmisher
45 Posts
| | 07/13/2006 12:44 AM |
| Paula and I are all about the 500 pt epic sealed! Who would want to play 200 pt with WoTDQ boosters?!
K + P | |
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 07/13/2006 9:13 AM |
| D&D was right nice last night. Thanks again to Jay for being the Master of Dungeons, a mighty fine job of keeping us crazy's in line. [:D]
Just don't forget to bring the Golden Protector tonight, I want to complete my set dang it. [:p] | | | |
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Richard II
Commander
3663 Posts
| | 07/13/2006 10:13 AM |
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Originally posted by The Beer Baron
Does this make sense? Who wants it 500 points Epic and who wants it 200 points Limited Sealed?
Cheers, TBB
I would prefer 500 pt epic for a few reasons, but I doubt I'm going to play either way. I'll be down to do some trading and maybe hang out for a bit and if there's an odd number of people maybe I'll play if it's epic. | |
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ShadowLord XT
Commander
2646 Posts
Plane of Shadow
| | 07/13/2006 10:37 AM |
| Are the Blackguard boosters going to be $15-ish now Beer Baron? Since they've been 85% proved (Maybe higher) to never yield a Huge rare?
EDIT: What do you guys think of my Crypt Guardian for my home brew adventure?
http://www.maxminis.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=23172 | |
Disipline is the only way to overcome chaos.
Champion of Half-Golems
Knight of Golems
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Idzy
Commander
3082 Posts
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
| | 07/13/2006 11:50 AM |
| Put me down on the list of 500 point supporters too.
I think that the blackguard boosters are pretty much 99.999999999% proven to never contain a huge rare at this point. | |
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 07/13/2006 11:58 AM |
| As mentioned last night 500 points here too. Who wants to pull 2 huge minis and not be able to use them.
Rotten shame about the whole distribution snafus in this set. | | | |
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The Beer Baron
Underboss
1553 Posts
"Champion of the Centaur Commander. Knight of the Gnoll Druid. Vindicated Champion of the Dragon Wrought Kobold!
| | 07/13/2006 11:59 AM |
| Well, if the Blackguard boosters are proven not to contain a rare, and the masses won't purchase them for more than $15, then I have a problem don't I. If I drop the price on these packs $5, I lose $10 a case. I'd have to mark up the other boosters $2.50 each (x4 in a case to maintain my profits. I have already given this product as favourable pricing as I can (GoL was $24.99/booster). Is this the best option? Or should I stick all the boosters behind the counter out of sight, and simply pull out what is on top when someone asks for one? What is the best option here?
Further to tonights game - DCI has said just to report my match as sealed. I am going to email them back and request a switch to epic for tonight. More details to come as I get them. | |
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Idzy
Commander
3082 Posts
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
| | 07/13/2006 12:15 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by The Beer Baron
Well, if the Blackguard boosters are proven not to contain a rare, and the masses won't purchase them for more than $15, then I have a problem don't I. If I drop the price on these packs $5, I lose $10 a case. I'd have to mark up the other boosters $2.50 each (x4 in a case to maintain my profits. I have already given this product as favourable pricing as I can (GoL was $24.99/booster). Is this the best option? Or should I stick all the boosters behind the counter out of sight, and simply pull out what is on top when someone asks for one? What is the best option here?
Further to tonights game - DCI has said just to report my match as sealed. I am going to email them back and request a switch to epic for tonight. More details to come as I get them.
I'm not sure what to do, I have an email into Wizards about it but nothing back as yet.
For tonights sealed I suggest that when you hand out boosters that no one gets 2 nightmare boosters. Like this:
Person 1 Tiamat/Nightmare
Person 2 Dracolich/Nightmare
Person 3 Tiamat/Dracolich
And maybe have every group of 3 roll off to pick the order or something or let them pick their boosters from following those combos.
This would at least minimize the chance of someone getting both huge rares and the chance of getting no huge rares.
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 07/13/2006 12:19 PM |
| There aren't too many good options given this sucky situation.
Certainly we should make sure that no player gets more than one Nightmare booster in a sealed event. Perhaps as a bonus for those who do get one of those boosters you can give them an extra raffle ticket to help even things out.
As for the boosters on the shelf there really isn't a good solution. Perhaps you could open the Nightmare ones for the case hoping to pull the regular rares and uncommons people are still looking for. Not the best option though as with no huge rares it's unlikely that you'll recoup your money on those boosters.
You could put them behind the counter but no doubt someone would protest when handed the Nightmare booster. It's just asking for one big headache there.
I'm not sure discounting would work too well either. $5 off isn't a huge incentive to someone who has all the huge uncommons they need already but is still looking for huge rares. Increasing the price on the other boosters some would hurt the wallet a bit more but I think they'd still sell out before the Nightmare boxes, leaving you stocked with plenty on the shelves.
I suppose we can always spread the rumor that Stirges are only ever found in Nightmare boosters. [:p] | | | |
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 07/13/2006 12:38 PM |
| | Not to pile on here or anything but I was just checking the GK schedule on the website and on September 2nd you have another even penciled in when that's where I've set up to run the 100 point Scanctioned event. | | | |
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The Beer Baron
Underboss
1553 Posts
"Champion of the Centaur Commander. Knight of the Gnoll Druid. Vindicated Champion of the Dragon Wrought Kobold!
| | 07/13/2006 1:42 PM |
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Originally posted by jacksonm
Not to pile on here or anything but I was just checking the GK schedule on the website and on September 2nd you have another even penciled in when that's where I've set up to run the 100 point Scanctioned event.
I am starting to feel piled on here, that's for sure. I just read 4 pages about this Nightmare nightmare and sent a big email to WOTC about it.
So what do I do for tonight?
Option 1: Do like Rob suggests, and every "pod" of 3 player dice off for first pick of paired boosters?
Option 2: Pile them all in a huge box and let the players blindly pull out their own boosters?
Option 3: Everyone gets a Nightmare box and I reduce the cost of this tourney $5. Tiamat/Dracolich boxes become tournament prizes?
Option 4: Everyone gets Tiamat/Dracolich set, and I raise the tourney price $5. Nightmare boxes become tournament prizes?
Option 5: Cancel the tournament as a sealed box, change it to constructed, and send all the Nightmare boxes back to WOTC (if, ha ha ha, if they are actually willing to fix this problem)?
Option 6: Write a song about my Nightmare nightmare, grow my hair long and run away to join a commune, forever forsaking my capitalistic ways...... | |
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ShadowLord XT
Commander
2646 Posts
Plane of Shadow
| | 07/13/2006 2:05 PM |
| Options 1, 2, or 3 are fine with me.
If I have to pick one it would have to be Option 2. As long as no one is allowed to pull two Nightmare boosters. | |
Disipline is the only way to overcome chaos.
Champion of Half-Golems
Knight of Golems
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 07/13/2006 2:15 PM |
| Option 5 could be interesting. I'll be currious to learn what Wizards has to say on the subject once they do come out with an official statement.
Ultimately I think Rob's option is the best and since he's the Wizard's deligate it's almost semi official like.
Screw it, Option 6 for everyone..... [:p] | | | |
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Idzy
Commander
3082 Posts
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
| | 07/13/2006 3:10 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by jacksonm
Option 5 could be interesting. I'll be currious to learn what Wizards has to say on the subject once they do come out with an official statement.
Ultimately I think Rob's option is the best and since he's the Wizard's deligate it's almost semi official like.
Screw it, Option 6 for everyone..... [:p]
I like mine best as everyone has an equal chance of getting the rares and no one will get 2 nightmare boxes. And there are still decent regular rares to be had in the nightmare boxes.
Note: Nothing I ever say is official, it might be or become official but mostly they don't tell us anything ahead of time so its just rumors or opinion, if its not already common knowledge.
Option 2 is 2nd best.
Option 3, do you have enough nightmare boxes?
Option 4, do you have enough Dracolich/tiamat boxes?
Option 5 well I prefer a sealed game since I find them the most fun.
Option 6 just don't foget to sell me gameknight for a dollar before you leave [:p] | |
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ShadowLord XT
Commander
2646 Posts
Plane of Shadow
| | 07/13/2006 3:31 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Idzy
Option 6 just don't foget to sell me gameknight for a dollar before you leave [:p]
I'll give you 2 dollars and the blue burning skeleton promo you've always wanted. | |
Disipline is the only way to overcome chaos.
Champion of Half-Golems
Knight of Golems
"This world is made for love and peace" - Trigun
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 07/13/2006 3:33 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Idzy
quote:
Originally posted by jacksonm
Option 5 could be interesting. I'll be currious to learn what Wizards has to say on the subject once they do come out with an official statement.
Ultimately I think Rob's option is the best and since he's the Wizard's deligate it's almost semi official like.
Screw it, Option 6 for everyone..... [:p]
Note: Nothing I ever say is official, it might be or become official but mostly they don't tell us anything ahead of time so its just rumors or opinion, if its not already common knowledge.
Which is why I qualified it with the descriptors almost, semi, and like. [:p] | | | |
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Idzy
Commander
3082 Posts
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
| | 07/13/2006 3:43 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by jacksonm
quote:
Originally posted by Idzy
quote:
Originally posted by jacksonm
Option 5 could be interesting. I'll be currious to learn what Wizards has to say on the subject once they do come out with an official statement.
Ultimately I think Rob's option is the best and since he's the Wizard's deligate it's almost semi official like.
Screw it, Option 6 for everyone..... [:p]
Note: Nothing I ever say is official, it might be or become official but mostly they don't tell us anything ahead of time so its just rumors or opinion, if its not already common knowledge.
Which is why I qualified it with the descriptors almost, semi, and like. [:p]
True enough but I figured I should get that out there anyway. | |
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 07/13/2006 3:47 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Idzy
quote:
Originally posted by jacksonm
quote:
Originally posted by Idzy
quote:
Originally posted by jacksonm
Option 5 could be interesting. I'll be currious to learn what Wizards has to say on the subject once they do come out with an official statement.
Ultimately I think Rob's option is the best and since he's the Wizard's deligate it's almost semi official like.
Screw it, Option 6 for everyone..... [:p]
Note: Nothing I ever say is official, it might be or become official but mostly they don't tell us anything ahead of time so its just rumors or opinion, if its not already common knowledge.
Which is why I qualified it with the descriptors almost, semi, and like. [:p]
True enough but I figured I should get that out there anyway.
For sure. This has been an "interesting" set to say the least. | | | |
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PepperWhisperRady
Sneak
143 Posts
| | 07/13/2006 4:06 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by ShadowLord XT
quote:
Originally posted by Idzy
Option 6 just don't foget to sell me gameknight for a dollar before you leave [:p]
I'll give you 2 dollars and the blue burning skeleton promo you've always wanted.
3 bucks, final offer! | |
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The Beer Baron
Underboss
1553 Posts
"Champion of the Centaur Commander. Knight of the Gnoll Druid. Vindicated Champion of the Dragon Wrought Kobold!
| | 07/13/2006 4:38 PM |
| Okay - Tonights Tournament, now changed at DCI, 500 points Epic, done with sealed WotDQ boosters. Cost $39.98+ taxes. I will group people into 3's and roll off to choose your pair of boosters pulled from a fresh sealed case. If our group tonight is not divisible by 3 then I will follow the above method of assigning boosters until the last case is opened. If there is 1 or 2 people for that last case, I will randomly assign the boosters, making sure no one gets 2 nightmare boxes.
Prizes will be randomly determined boosters from any open case.
Huge Freakin' Spiders will be available if needed for warband creation.
This months Retailer packs will not be available. | |
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 07/13/2006 4:45 PM |
| | Sounds like a plan. I'll see you all there later tonight. | | | |
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Idzy
Commander
3082 Posts
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
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Omand
Commander
3120 Posts
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 07/13/2006 5:48 PM |
| | If only you could get paid for posting here.... [:D] | | | |
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stonefro2000
Sergeant
465 Posts
| | 07/13/2006 5:54 PM |
| | the preceding posts where the result of another classic case of WOTC and there lack of planing. Burn Baby Burn, Flames a getting higher! | |
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The Beer Baron
Underboss
1553 Posts
"Champion of the Centaur Commander. Knight of the Gnoll Druid. Vindicated Champion of the Dragon Wrought Kobold!
| | 07/13/2006 6:45 PM |
| As a bonus prize, I'll give away Jay's slightly used picnic cooler, provided he doesn't come out and claim it for himself.
(Just kidding Jay - remember your cooler is here) | |
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Richard II
Commander
3663 Posts
| | 07/13/2006 10:57 PM |
| | Can we get a complete listing of all "true" dragons? Do you mean just chromatic and metallic? Fang dragons aren't true dragons? What about a blue dracolich? | |
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 07/14/2006 12:17 AM |
| True dragons are the metalic and chromatic dragons, Gold, Silver, Copper, Bronze, Brass, Red, Blue, Green, Black, and White.
These would be the valid True Dragons:
Black Dragon (Young)
Blue Wyrmling
Brass Dragon
Bronze Wyrmling
Gold Dragon
Green Dragon
Large Blue Dragon
Large Bronze Dragon
Large Copper Dragon
Large Green Dragon
Large Red Dragon
Large Silver Dragon
Medium Silver Dragon
Red Wyrmling
Small Black Dragon
Small Copper Dragon
Small White Dragon
I would say the Dracolich would be but since it's a 200 point game he's too many points.
Of course your warband needs to only include 1 of those dragons above, the rest of the 100 point requirement can be made up of any mini with the type Dragon. | | | |
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 07/14/2006 12:23 AM |
| Nice turnout tonight, 15 people is always great to see.
Congradulations to Jay and Chris for both going 3-0, good to see two grizzled vets come out on top. [:)] | | | |
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Richard II
Commander
3663 Posts
| | 07/14/2006 8:52 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by jacksonm
I would say the Dracolich would be but since it's a 200 point game he's too many points.
Of course your warband needs to only include 1 of those dragons above, the rest of the 100 point requirement can be made up of any mini with the type Dragon.
Schedule says it's 500 pts. So Bahamut, Tiamat, Sorcerer on Black Dragon, Dracolich are usable. But are they true dragons? | |
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 07/14/2006 9:26 AM |
| Hmmmm.... it does say 500 points but last night Scott was saying 200. I think the 500 may be an error but I could be wrong.
Assuming it is 500 personally I would say Bahamut and Tiamat not true dragons, the Sorcerer on Black Dragon and Dracolich yes. The Huge Gold and Huge Red Dragons would also count.
It seems more like it should be a 200 point format with the 100 points of dragons required.
Which is it Beer Baron, 200 or 500? | | | |
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Omand
Commander
3120 Posts
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
| | 07/14/2006 10:05 AM |
| Hello all,
Yes, it was nice to go 3-0 last night. Pulls my DCI ranking up a bit out of the dustbin. I have to give all three of my opponents props, however. All three of my games were challenging, despite my good luck with pulls from boosters. My last game was decided by all of 31 points, and my game againt Mike J. could have gone either way (Bahamut vs. Bahamut is nasty).
I will try to get a tournament report up, but work is really busy.
Thanks to The Beer Baron for hosting.
Cheers [:)] | |
Successful Trades: 77 * Pending Trades: 0 * Bad Trades: KONG (B.W.)
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Omand
Commander
3120 Posts
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
| | 07/14/2006 10:07 AM |
| Ooopps,
I forgot one last thing. I am still lookign for 5 minis to complete WotDQ. Tiamat, Griffon Cavalry, Blackguard on Nightmare, Large Fang Dragon and Redspawn Firebelcher. I have a bunch of trade fodder from many sets available. Please, check out my H/W list and make me an offer.
Cheers [:)] | |
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The Beer Baron
Underboss
1553 Posts
"Champion of the Centaur Commander. Knight of the Gnoll Druid. Vindicated Champion of the Dragon Wrought Kobold!
| | 07/14/2006 12:19 PM |
| AArrrgg!!! The typos!?!??!
Saturday's game is supposed to be 200 points, not 500, my bad, again. 100 points of type dragon creatures, of which at least one must be a true dragon. Like Mike's list above (thanx), that means chromatic or metallic only. No dracoliches.
Somebody please troch & frok me! | |
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 07/14/2006 1:49 PM |
| Just for kicks here are the legal minis with Type Dragon to fill out your 100 point requirement for the warband.
Ambush Drake
Baaz Draconian
Blackspawn Exterminator
Crested Felldrake
Dragonborn Fighter
Dragonwrought Kobold
Gold Champion
Golden Protector
Greenspawn Razorfiend
Kapak Draconian
Large Deep Dragon
Large Fang Dragon
Redspawn Firebelcher
Silver Sorcerer
Spellscale Sorcerer
Whitespawn Hordeling
Wyvern | | | |
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Richard II
Commander
3663 Posts
| | 07/14/2006 2:43 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by The Beer Baron
AArrrgg!!! The typos!?!??!
Saturday's game is supposed to be 200 points, not 500, my bad, again.
[:(] | |
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 07/14/2006 3:47 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Richard II
quote:
Originally posted by The Beer Baron
AArrrgg!!! The typos!?!??!
Saturday's game is supposed to be 200 points, not 500, my bad, again.
[:(]
Now you went and made Richard sad. | | | |
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stonefro2000
Sergeant
465 Posts
| | 07/15/2006 1:18 AM |
| | hey all, won't be able to make it today. but if anyone wants to help me level a sidewalk then come on down! ΖD] what? no takers?[:(] | |
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