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10/14/2005 12:40 PM  
I'm with Chattan as far as speeding things up, but I'm just bucking for "valued member of the community" status.

BTW, there will be no living with the Rat now.

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10/14/2005 1:22 PM  
Do we have a start time for the event yet?

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10/14/2005 1:26 PM  
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Do we have a start time for the event yet?

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I still think it will start at 12:00 (noon) we did try 10:00am for one event, you remember the long wait we had because a store worker changed the time without telling the TO, judge, or several other key players. we did have a nice lunch break before we played though.

If I do find out I will post. I hope to hear back from the TO sometime soon.

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10/14/2005 7:30 PM  
noon will be the start time
I'm still awaiting the FAQ sheet, but we have got the banner.
I'm just excited about the new Earth Elemental!

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10/15/2005 7:31 PM  
I passed a course for work which I needed for a raise. This means I am coming to the prerelease. I had told myself I wouldn't go until I passed that course (it was online, but it just kept dragging on because I wasn't making enough time for it). Now that I passed it (it was the third of a series of three), I will be coming to the prerelease.

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10/17/2005 8:14 PM  
good to hear others are planning to attend.

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10/17/2005 9:49 PM  
So, who is planning on wearing costumes to the prerelease? I could dress up as a wizard. It would be elven wizard, but I am not going to go looking for ears.

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10/18/2005 2:40 AM  
I'm not planning on dressing up as anything other than a gamer geek. [)]

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10/18/2005 1:38 PM  
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Originally posted by Caustic_Mouse

I'm with Chattan as far as speeding things up, but I'm just bucking for "valued member of the community" status.

BTW, there will be no living with the Rat now.



Just for the record, we never were, nor have we ever been living together.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.


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10/18/2005 5:02 PM  
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I'm not planning on dressing up as anything other than a gamer geek. [)]

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I have been dressing up like that for years now. I need a new costume. [:0]

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10/19/2005 2:58 AM  
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quote:
Originally posted by Caustic_Mouse

I'm with Chattan as far as speeding things up, but I'm just bucking for "valued member of the community" status.

BTW, there will be no living with the Rat now.



Just for the record, we never were, nor have we ever been living together.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.




See what I mean!

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10/19/2005 10:41 AM  
I think I will likely come dressed up...

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10/23/2005 3:20 PM  
less then 1 week.

This upcomming Saturday!!

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10/24/2005 8:19 PM  
We got the kit in today--hopefully the product soon too.

The promo is the
Swarm of Spiders 15 pt
l2 s4 ac13 hp30
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Tiny Reach
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cost 24

The fact sheet says to charge 13 for each booster, and no more than 36 dollars but we're not going to increase the cost.

Mod Swiss, cut to top 4 (or 8 for >32 players) 200 point assault
Bring your own tiles--no maps are included, 60 min limit, no faction rules

same prizes


They FINALLYput the street date on the FAQ for the set-- November 4th (Friday)

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10/24/2005 8:51 PM  
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The fact sheet says to charge 13 for each booster, and no more than 36 dollars but we're not going to increase the cost.



What is the cost for the event, then?

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10/24/2005 9:38 PM  
cost $24

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10/25/2005 12:29 AM  
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cost $24



Makes me wish I had some family members that would come and play too.

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10/25/2005 12:08 PM  
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Makes me wish I had some family members that would come and play too.
Wife will not be there? you do have some brother-in-laws that play. Bring your rpg group to play. All good ways to get some extra minis.

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10/25/2005 1:03 PM  
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Originally posted by Jarvissteven

We got the kit in today--hopefully the product soon too.

The promo is the
Swarm of Spiders 15 pt
l2 s4 ac13 hp30
+4(5+poison)
Fearless
Posion dc12
Swarm attack (1 Use) Replace attack:Each adjacent creature makes a poison save
Tiny Reach
Trample 0+Poison (DC12)
Wandering Monster

cost 24

The fact sheet says to charge 13 for each booster, and no more than 36 dollars but we're not going to increase the cost.

Mod Swiss, cut to top 4 (or 8 for >32 players) 200 point assault
Bring your own tiles--no maps are included, 60 min limit, no faction rules

same prizes


They FINALLYput the street date on the FAQ for the set-- November 4th (Friday)



Thanx for keeping the cost down. $24 is reasonable.

By "cut to top 4" do you mean that we have to do a 4 player playoff? Man, I really hate that in an event like this. *grumble*

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10/25/2005 3:32 PM  
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By "cut to top 4" do you mean that we have to do a 4 player playoff? Man, I really hate that in an event like this. *grumble*

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I too do not like this added part of the event. It adds another 3 hrs to it. Well, more fuel to move the starting time of future event sooner. [:)]

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10/25/2005 4:23 PM  
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By "cut to top 4" do you mean that we have to do a 4 player playoff? Man, I really hate that in an event like this. *grumble*

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I too do not like this added part of the event. It adds another 3 hrs to it. Well, more fuel to move the starting time of future event sooner. [:)]



I don't like this either as I have to go somewhere in the evening. This isn't a championship where we have to have a cut to the top four is it?

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10/25/2005 4:26 PM  
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Makes me wish I had some family members that would come and play too.
Wife will not be there? you do have some brother-in-laws that play. Bring your rpg group to play. All good ways to get some extra minis.



None of my brothers-in-law are available/interested. My wife has other plans and has lost most of her interest in skirmishing. My wife is the only one in my RPG group that knows how to skirmish. Our Dragonlance DM isn't skirmishing anymore, either (and he's working from 10 AM to 9 PM that day).

All were good suggestions, but none of them will work.

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10/25/2005 10:58 PM  
It adds two or three rounds, and was on the FAQ. I suppose it meshes out what was missing on the tiebreaks, to get a clear winner.

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10/25/2005 11:16 PM  
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It adds two or three rounds, and was on the FAQ. I suppose it meshes out what was missing on the tiebreaks, to get a clear winner.



We know it adds two or three rounds. That's two or three more hours. That's the problem.

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10/26/2005 2:18 AM  
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It adds two or three rounds, and was on the FAQ. I suppose it meshes out what was missing on the tiebreaks, to get a clear winner.



We know it adds two or three rounds. That's two or three more hours. That's the problem.



And we don't NEED a clear winner in this event.

It's also lame because it forces people who don't make the top 4 but want to see the prizes opened to glory in the new plasticrack to hang around unnecessarily for an additional 2-3 hours.

I seriously doubt that anybody would object to just the swiss rounds and standard tiebreaks for prize support as long as it was understood from the beginning.

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10/26/2005 2:32 AM  
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quote:
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It adds two or three rounds, and was on the FAQ. I suppose it meshes out what was missing on the tiebreaks, to get a clear winner.



We know it adds two or three rounds. That's two or three more hours. That's the problem.



And we don't NEED a clear winner in this event.

It's also lame because it forces people who don't make the top 4 but want to see the prizes opened to glory in the new plasticrack to hang around unnecessarily for an additional 2-3 hours.

I seriously doubt that anybody would object to just the swiss rounds and standard tiebreaks for prize support as long as it was understood from the beginning.

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I agree

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10/26/2005 11:05 AM  
I enjoyed the even split for the top four that Chattan convinced everyone to do last time.

Saved time, guaranteed a few minis. (I think I finally got my Blue Dragon that way)

Either just play another round or two, or split the winnings amongst the top 4.

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10/26/2005 11:32 AM  
Add my vote to reducing the time required in the finals. Either evenly split, or maybe a four-player free-for-all.

Whatever we need to do to not add 3+ hours because of finals.

Plus, it allows us to do one more thing to annoy the ID folks. [)]

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10/26/2005 4:28 PM  
quote:
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quote:
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quote:
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quote:
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It adds two or three rounds, and was on the FAQ. I suppose it meshes out what was missing on the tiebreaks, to get a clear winner.



We know it adds two or three rounds. That's two or three more hours. That's the problem.



And we don't NEED a clear winner in this event.

It's also lame because it forces people who don't make the top 4 but want to see the prizes opened to glory in the new plasticrack to hang around unnecessarily for an additional 2-3 hours.

I seriously doubt that anybody would object to just the swiss rounds and standard tiebreaks for prize support as long as it was understood from the beginning.

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I agree



me too

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10/26/2005 7:00 PM  
Just stopped in at the game den. They have over 8 cases of Underdark sitting and waiting for us on Saturday. We should have more then enough for us to play with.

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10/26/2005 9:10 PM  
We are required to do the top. We may end up with the same result as last time, consessions and drops. That was how things were handled last time and it is up to the top four or eight if they want to do it. If any choose to go for the points and the win, the matches are played. If not, players can drop (which gives the opponent the win, and change in rating), but a clear winner must be presented.

If it was up to me, I'd say no break to the top four. But since its on the FAQ, and both Gerald and I are intent on playing, the FAQ will be followed.


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10/27/2005 1:01 AM  
Jarvissteven, just to give you a head's up in case you hadn't heard yet--

The insert in the booster says that Rikka and the Justicator can be played in Epic form at Limited events. The WotC site has issued a correction saying that no Epics can be used in Limited events. I just wanted this to be clear to everyone before anyone drafts anything on the prerelease date so that nobody feels cheated and so that confusion can be minimized.

So, please let whoever will be judging the event know and ask them to announce it ahead of passing out boosters.

Thanks.

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10/27/2005 2:01 AM  
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We are required to do the top. We may end up with the same result as last time, consessions and drops. That was how things were handled last time and it is up to the top four or eight if they want to do it. If any choose to go for the points and the win, the matches are played. If not, players can drop (which gives the opponent the win, and change in rating), but a clear winner must be presented.

If it was up to me, I'd say no break to the top four. But since its on the FAQ, and both Gerald and I are intent on playing, the FAQ will be followed.



By "required to do the top", do you mean that you are required to turn in the top 4 from the event for DCI purposes? My suggestion is that we just use the results from the swiss rounds and tie-breakers to determine the top 4 slots rather than having to do a playoff or requiring the players to take losses.

What does the fact that you and Gerald are playing have to do with the FAQ being followed? I'm very curious to see this FAQ. Will you bring it to the event so that I can see it so that I can be more knowledgeable when I talk about it with others?

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10/27/2005 10:11 AM  
I'm guessing that with both of them playing, they would have to use the FAQ as the 'rules' for the event. Just a guess.

Sounds like we'll just have to deal with the finals when we get there.

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10/27/2005 7:56 PM  
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What does the fact that you and Gerald are playing have to do with the FAQ being followed? I'm very curious to see this FAQ. Will you bring it to the event so that I can see it so that I can be more knowledgeable when I talk about it with others?

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The FAQ comes with the kit and should be still at the store. I have not read the FAQ, but I did see the Angelfire one. The FAQ is normally 1 page that lists the rules for the event and how it is recorded in the DCI reporter. When an event is set up you select some settings. If you are having playoff you must select it to do so. The total results are sent to WotC DCI for reporting. I do not know what extra info is sent.

I see not reason as to why we need to run the playoffs, but the FAQ does instruct to do so, and if the top players desire to do so, we are required to do so. If the top players do not want to play the playoff and keep the swiss rankings, no problem, or they could all split the prize. either way works.

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10/28/2005 11:50 AM  
Hey sorry I didn't make it on Thursday, buisness is really taking off now, we have about 10,000 bucks coming in over the next month now.

I have a problem, currently I don't have any money to pay for the pre-release, however if someone is willing to lend me the money I can pay them back within the next month.

If no one is able to do this I can't go to the pre-release.

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10/28/2005 2:43 PM  
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Hey sorry I didn't make it on Thursday, buisness is really taking off now, we have about 10,000 bucks coming in over the next month now.

I have a problem, currently I don't have any money to pay for the pre-release, however if someone is willing to lend me the money I can pay them back within the next month.

If no one is able to do this I can't go to the pre-release.

No problem on missing you on Thursday. It was a fun campaign event.

Give me a call about Saturday if you do not get any other offers. Also will your Tooelle friends be comming this time?

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10/29/2005 10:53 AM  
See you all at the prerelease. I will bring my trade stuff. And a costume. Even if I am one of the few actually wearing a costume.

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10/29/2005 12:40 PM  
I won't be dressed up but I'm bringing my bro and two other friends so watch out for team......well we don't really have a name per say but watch out!

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10/30/2005 12:02 AM  
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I won't be dressed up but I'm bringing my bro and two other friends so watch out for team......well we don't really have a name per say but watch out!

well his team did well. Drakkengi came in top 3 (3rd I think) and Chattan can in 4th (I missed on 1 attack roll[:(] at the end of time). Caustic Mouse received 5th and I placed 6th. The other 2 top players took an ID and I think that they are nolonger worth 1 point, but they insisted that they were. I read the NC event that was this was not the case, so I do not know who won with tie breakers. The top 4 decided to split the prizes so we did not hold the finials. over all we had 5 players who went 4-1 (it could be said that 2 went 4-0-1)

Over all we had a good turn out. several new players came on up and a few older one did not make it.

I was dissipointed in my pulls, but was suprised at how well I ended up going. I lost 2 matches out of 5. both loses were very close. I just needed to roll a bit better at very crusial times. 1 match I almost lost because of bad die rolls on my part and very good ones on his, but at the end of the match I got the better die rolls and his want down.

Thank you all for comming to our event!![:)]

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