ShadowLord XT
Commander
2646 Posts
    
Plane of Shadow
 | | 03/26/2007 1:40 PM |
| Posted By jacksonm on 03/26/2007 10:37 AM Posted By ShadowLord XT on 03/26/2007 8:09 AM Posted By jacksonm on 03/26/2007 7:36 AM Posted By ShadowLord XT on 03/26/2007 7:31 AM
Do we seriously have 5? All I can think of are L. and V. Poor Chris Smythe, forgotten in his prime. And I see a certain Chris Bachynski hoofing you in the nuts soon..... I'm just used to calling him Bach. And I don't ever remember a Chris Smythe. That's okay, he only knows you as the kid with the case surgicaly attached to his arm. 
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Disipline is the only way to overcome chaos.
Champion of Half-Golems
Knight of Golems
"This world is made for love and peace" - Trigun
"anyway..shadow..you've figured women out. KUDOS." - raye_kino16 | |
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puff_maul
Sneak
165 Posts
Winnipeg MB
| | 03/26/2007 6:29 PM |
| Ummm...I have a dumb question about the D&D themed game on Saturday:
If I need to have 100 pts of Unique characters (1/2 my squad), can I mix factions? I'm assuming the answer is no, but I don't think I even own 100 pts of Uniques, let alone of the same faction....
Anybody willing to borrow me a few minis? (Either that, or I'll buy Ghaele Eladrin from the store if there's one for sale.)
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 03/26/2007 7:10 PM |
| Posted By puff_maul on 03/26/2007 6:29 PM
Ummm...I have a dumb question about the D&D themed game on Saturday:
If I need to have 100 pts of Unique characters (1/2 my squad), can I mix factions? I'm assuming the answer is no, but I don't think I even own 100 pts of Uniques, let alone of the same faction....
Anybody willing to borrow me a few minis? (Either that, or I'll buy Ghaele Eladrin from the store if there's one for sale.)
Factions can't be mixed except with Warband building or other normal means. Sadly Ghaele Eladrin isn't a Unique.
http://vesivus.com/minis/Unique.htm
There's a handy list of the Uniques up to the most recent set. I would consider Strahd and Van Richten to be Uniques along with the Thrall of Blackrazor.
I'd say just do the best you can to meet the warband requirement and I'm sure they'll let you slide. I'd happily lend you something but sadly I have family coming in for the weekend and most likely won't be able to make it out Saturday.
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Richard II
Commander
3663 Posts
| | 03/26/2007 7:54 PM |
| | Me too. I'm always willing to lend minis, but I won't be out on Saturday either. | |
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puff_maul
Sneak
165 Posts
Winnipeg MB
| | 03/26/2007 10:52 PM |
| Oh, you're right.....anyway, still a cool figure I'd really like to get. I just checked out the cards, and it turns out that Snig, Worg Rider is the only one I have.
I'll still be out for Star Wars on Saturday, and for the league wrap up on Thursday. Any prizes for last place?
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 03/27/2007 3:00 PM |
| This week will see the end of the current Game Knight DDM League. In general I think it was a success, those who participated had fun.
That being said I'm thinking of starting up anohter one for May. One that would be more inclusive, not forcing players to buy boosters to remain competative yet still be different from the standard DDM tournament.
Here's what I'm proposing:
Tournaments would be 200 point assault matches. Standard warband building rules .
The first part of the league would be the commander draft. Every player interested in the tournament would sign up before a deadline. Those enrolled would be assigned a random draft order to choose a DDM commander that will be theirs throughout the league. To speed this process up I think at the time of enrollment players would submit a sheet of commanders they would like in a numerical order and get the highest one left when it comes to your turn in the draft order.
The rest of your warband you may build as you choose following normal warband restrictions. Changes can be made between rounds of a session after you lose a match. Winners must continue with the warbands they won with.
From there I would like to use the Ladder system I proposed in the league thread.
The first League session would be a standard tournament in order to set the ladder rankings, based on point totals recieved from the 3 matches.
Once everyone has a ranking they are assigned a point total, 1st place is 100 points and every rank below that is 5 points fewer.
Other league sessions would play out as normal 200 point assault tournaments, Player getting matched up based on their rankings.
The only way to advance up on the ladder is to beat an opponent ranked higher than you. Beating the person one level above you rewards you with 10 points and for each additional rank above one 5 additional points are awarded. Conversely points are taken away for losing to an opponent ranked lower than you in the same fashion.
No points are gained from beating an opponent ranked lower than you, nor do you lost points for a lose to someone ranked higher than yourself. Byes don't gain or lose points.
The league points you get or lose would be tracked and re-totaled at the end of the evening to determine the new Ladder rankings.
New players could be added into the league at any point, joining at the lowest ranking with 5 points less than the player above them and choosing a commander yet to be picked.
Prizes would be given out for the most consecutive weeks at #1, most overall weeks at #1, being #1 at the end, the most weeks in last place, most congenial, etc...
Let me know what you all think. Any suggestions, should we run with this? | | | |
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ShadowLord XT
Commander
2646 Posts
Plane of Shadow
| | 03/27/2007 3:32 PM |
| Looks pretty good.
For another idea we could try an Eternal Campaign. I've wanted to try one of those. I have the Minis Handbook if it's ever needed (it has all the rules and items for the campaign). | |
Disipline is the only way to overcome chaos.
Champion of Half-Golems
Knight of Golems
"This world is made for love and peace" - Trigun
"anyway..shadow..you've figured women out. KUDOS." - raye_kino16 | |
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Richard II
Commander
3663 Posts
| | 03/27/2007 3:50 PM |
| Mike, how does the person in first place gain points? He can't do anything until someone passes him, so it seems like as soon as you're in first you just have to wait around for someone to pass you. Also, how are pairings done? It just seems that in every game only one person as anything to gain from that game.
Also, if you're in first, lose to the 2nd place person and get leapfrogged you're likely in 2nd now, but you wouldn't play the first place person since you just did, which means for a second game in a row you wouldn't have anything to gain from playing. | |
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 03/27/2007 4:12 PM |
| Well the simple answer is if you're in first place don't lose.
It looks like I didn't copy everything as I had it in the League thread. There I had rankings re-totaled after each round which while more complicated may work out better.
The name of the game is don't lose to people ranked lower than you. In your scenario if you were in 1st and lost to the second place player your other matches would still be important to not further your fall down the Ladder so for the next session you're in a good position to rightfully reclaim your 1st position.
As for parings players in the first match would be paired with a player right under them in the Ladder. Next round winners play winners, losers vs losers matching players closest in the ladder rankings who yet haven't played. Etc. Byes in the first round go to a dice off between the 1st place and last place player. From then it goes to the losers determined randomly.
I suppose I could make it so a win to a player ranked lower than you still gets you 5 points and a loss to a player above you costs 5 points.
The other thing that was left out was missing a session costs you 15 league points. | | | |
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Richard II
Commander
3663 Posts
| | 03/27/2007 8:08 PM |
| There's a certain symmetry to my finishings in dreamblade tournaments.
4, 1, 4, 1
2, 3, 2, 3
3, 1, 1, 3, 1, 1 | |
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 03/28/2007 7:41 AM |
| Perhaps someday we'll have more than 4 people out for a Dreamblade tournament again and give you a chance to finish in 5th place. 
Speaking of Dreamblade though some shops have recieved the posters and promos for the new set already. There's poster scans up on the Wizard's boards, a few cool looking pieces and more weirdness for weirdness sake.
Are we getting another Dreamblade release event Beer Baron? | | | |
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The Beer Baron
Underboss
1553 Posts
"Champion of the Centaur Commander. Knight of the Gnoll Druid. Vindicated Champion of the Dragon Wrought Kobold!
| | 03/28/2007 9:12 AM |
| Yay....I have internet!!!!!!
Breamblade - no poster yet, and no info on a release event. I think our numbers need to go up to justify them sending out a case of prize support for only the usual 4 people.
I skimmed over the league, and it seems confusing. If you think you could make it work, then you know I'll support it. But if I don't have a firm grasp on it then I'll need you there to explain it when we start. If you are still good with schedule planning, May/June will need looking at soon. I think I'll email dci/wotc to see if we can sanction a non standard format like league. Who know, maybe we can.
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 03/28/2007 9:30 AM |
| Posted By The Beer Baron on 03/28/2007 9:12 AM
Yay....I have internet!!!!!!
Breamblade - no poster yet, and no info on a release event. I think our numbers need to go up to justify them sending out a case of prize support for only the usual 4 people.
I skimmed over the league, and it seems confusing. If you think you could make it work, then you know I'll support it. But if I don't have a firm grasp on it then I'll need you there to explain it when we start. If you are still good with schedule planning, May/June will need looking at soon. I think I'll email dci/wotc to see if we can sanction a non standard format like league. Who know, maybe we can.
There's a bit of paperwork involved in tracking a league like this but it's nothing too hard to handle. I think it sounds more complicated than it will play out.
I'll run a couple more test sessions when I have a chance and see how it plays out and let everyone know.
I'll start work on the May and June Schedules right away.
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ShadowLord XT
Commander
2646 Posts
Plane of Shadow
| | 03/28/2007 9:43 AM |
| Posted By jacksonm on 03/28/2007 9:30 AM Posted By The Beer Baron on 03/28/2007 9:12 AM
Yay....I have internet!!!!!!
Breamblade - no poster yet, and no info on a release event. I think our numbers need to go up to justify them sending out a case of prize support for only the usual 4 people.
I skimmed over the league, and it seems confusing. If you think you could make it work, then you know I'll support it. But if I don't have a firm grasp on it then I'll need you there to explain it when we start. If you are still good with schedule planning, May/June will need looking at soon. I think I'll email dci/wotc to see if we can sanction a non standard format like league. Who know, maybe we can.
There's a bit of paperwork involved in tracking a league like this but it's nothing too hard to handle. I think it sounds more complicated than it will play out. I'll run a couple more test sessions when I have a chance and see how it plays out and let everyone know. I'll start work on the May and June Schedules right away.
Just please remember to have a look at my ideas I came up with a while back.
EDIT: Here they are,
Back in the Day
200 pts.
Special Rule: 12 fig activation limit with tiles
Infected Allies
200 pts.
Special Rule: A random mini in each warbands carries a disease which deals it 5 magic dmg at the end of each round. The infected mini can get rid of the diease by dealing melee dmg to an enemy. The enemy that takes the dmg then becomes infected. A mini can be infected more than once.
Rare Sight to See
200 pts.
Special Rule: Each warband must have one, and only one, rare figure in it.
Rock, Paper, Scissors (I can't spell scissors)
200 pts.
Special Rule: Warbands must have two of the three following in its warband. Rock - A mini with the ability burrow.
Paper - A mini painted with its main colour white.
Scissors - A mini visably wielding a double edged sword.
Welcome to Mechanus
200 pts.
Special Rule: Youre warband must have at least 100 points worth of constructs in it.
Family Portrait
200 pts.
Special Rule: 150 points of your warband must be one type of mini (i.e. 150 points of dwarves, or orcs, or ogres, ect).
Bar Fight
200 pts.
Special Rule: Warbands can't have a mini that deals magic dmg. One mini in each warband gains the ability stagger (This mini doesn't have to charge in a straight line). You choose which mini in your warband gets the ability.
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Disipline is the only way to overcome chaos.
Champion of Half-Golems
Knight of Golems
"This world is made for love and peace" - Trigun
"anyway..shadow..you've figured women out. KUDOS." - raye_kino16 | |
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Idzy
Commander
3082 Posts
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 03/28/2007 10:01 AM |
| I've blocked out a quick rough schedule. There will be room for 7 DDM theme games and one Star Wars theme game on the schedule. If you have suggestions of things you'd like to see shout them out.
Your suggestions will be taken under advisement SLXL. | | | |
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 03/28/2007 10:32 AM |
| Here's a brief rundown of what I have so far.
May Schedule
Wed 2nd - Beer Club? If not Dreamblade Sanctioned.
Thur 3rd - DDM 200 Points Sanctioned
Fri 4th - Jay's SW RPG and Open Gaming
Sat 5th - SWM 100 points Sanctioned, DDM Theme event.
Wed 9th - D&D RPG and A&A
Thur 10th - DDM Theme
Fri 11th - Dreamblade Sanctioned
Sat 12th - SW Battleships, New DDM League.
Wed 16th - D&D RPG and A&A Sanctioned
Thur 17th - DDM Limited Sanctioned
Fri 18th - Dreamblade Sanctioned
Sat 19th - SWM 200 points Sanctioned (MJ), DDM Theme Event.
Wed 23rd - D&D RPG and A&A.
Thur 24th - DDM 500 points Sanctioned
Fri 25th - Jay's Star Wars RPG and Open Gaming.
Sat 26th - SW Battleships, DDM 200 points Sanctioned (MJ)
Wed 30th - D&D and A&A Sanctioned
Thur 31st - New DDM League
June Schedule
Fri 1st - Jay's SW RPG and Open Gaming.
Sat 2nd - SW Minis 150 points Sanctioned, DDM theme event.
Wed 6th - Beer Club?
Thur 7th - DDM 200 points Sanctioned
Fri 8th - Dreamblade Sanctioned.
Sat 9th - SW Battleships, New DDM League.
Wed 13th - D&D RPG and A&A.
Thur 14th - DDM 100 points Sanctioned
Fri 15th - Dreamblade sanctioned.
Sat 16th - SWM 200 points Sanctioned, DDM 200 points Sanctioned (MJ)
Wed 20th - D&D RPG and A&A Sanctioned.
Thur 21st - DDM 500 points Sanctioned
Fri 22nd - Jay's SW RPG and Open Gaming
Sat 23rd - SW Battleships, DDM Theme Event
Wed 27th - D&D RPG and A&A.
Thur 28th - New DDM League
Fri 29th - Jay's SW RPG and Open Gaming.
Sat 30th - SWM theme event, DDM theme Event.
That's the basic breakdown. Theme events to be filled in. Rob's demos and Heroclix to be added, plus conformation of Beer Club nights and Jay's schedule to run Star Wars. | | | |
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ShadowLord XT
Commander
2646 Posts
Plane of Shadow
| | 03/28/2007 11:00 AM |
| Posted By jacksonm on 03/28/2007 10:01 AM
Your suggestions will be taken under advisement SLXL.
As long as they are taken into consideration. Who knows maybe there's another Pack Night tourny in there. By Pack Night I mean a theme night everybody generally likes. | |
Disipline is the only way to overcome chaos.
Champion of Half-Golems
Knight of Golems
"This world is made for love and peace" - Trigun
"anyway..shadow..you've figured women out. KUDOS." - raye_kino16 | |
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 03/28/2007 11:16 AM |
| | Oh yes, and there is the SWM release event to consider in May. Have you heard anything new on that front Scott? | | | |
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 03/28/2007 1:49 PM |
| In May I have the 17th set to be a Limited DDM event. Most people seem to prefer Sealed but we haven't done a draft in a while. Which would you prefer?
Also what sets would you like to play. 2 Unhallowed, an Unhallowed and a Blood War, something else? Blood War and Underdark would rock for limited if we could pull it off. | | | |
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Idzy
Commander
3082 Posts
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
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Richard II
Commander
3663 Posts
| | 03/28/2007 3:01 PM |
| I prefer sealed, since one of the things I like most about limited is the chance to mix factions. It's also faster in that you don't have to draft.
I would definitely prefer two unhallowed boosters (preferably with a virtuous charger and large black dragon in em). | |
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The Beer Baron
Underboss
1553 Posts
"Champion of the Centaur Commander. Knight of the Gnoll Druid. Vindicated Champion of the Dragon Wrought Kobold!
| | 03/28/2007 4:27 PM |
| Originally posted in the league forum.
I just cracked open a case of DeathKnell for league wrap up tommorrow. I'm not allowing boxes to be shaken, you can pick a number between 1 and 12. MJ just pulled a mummylord from booster #10.
That leaves 11 out of 12 boxes | |
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 03/28/2007 8:37 PM |
| | Yeah, that Deathknell booster did little to improve my league pool. Oh well, I can't really make it out tomorrow anyway, to many things to do before the family comes out for the weekend. | | | |
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ShadowLord XT
Commander
2646 Posts
Plane of Shadow
| | 03/29/2007 6:52 AM |
| Drafts are fun, but as Richard has stated, it takes too long.
Baron, I'm supposing you don't have 12 people in the league, so are you going to sell the leftovers? If so at what price? | |
Disipline is the only way to overcome chaos.
Champion of Half-Golems
Knight of Golems
"This world is made for love and peace" - Trigun
"anyway..shadow..you've figured women out. KUDOS." - raye_kino16 | |
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Richard II
Commander
3663 Posts
| | 03/29/2007 8:57 AM |
| | My van holds 9 boxes of glassware. Good to know if I ever need to start a meth lab. | |
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stonefro2000
Sergeant
465 Posts
| | 03/29/2007 1:58 PM |
| | see ya all tonight for leauge wrap up! | |
"Well maybe Mr. T hacked the game and created a Mohawk class! Maybe Mr. T is handy with computers! Had that ever occurred to you Mr. condescending Director!" | |
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Richard II
Commander
3663 Posts
| | 03/29/2007 8:55 PM |
| | Yay, happiness is winning the league. And double happiness is one of my boosters having a virtuous charger in it. No triple happiness though by pulling a Large Black Dragon though. | |
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ShadowLord XT
Commander
2646 Posts
Plane of Shadow
| | 03/30/2007 7:29 AM |
| | Why all the hype about the Virtuous Charger?? Is it skirmish competative? Is it used in rpg a lot? What's the deal? | |
Disipline is the only way to overcome chaos.
Champion of Half-Golems
Knight of Golems
"This world is made for love and peace" - Trigun
"anyway..shadow..you've figured women out. KUDOS." - raye_kino16 | |
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 03/30/2007 7:43 AM |
| She's got a lot going for her. Speed 12 with enhanced mobility to make both her attacks plus skirmish danage when she moves.
Cure Mod and a Neutralize Poison never hurts. 85 HP is good.
+2 AC vs evil creatures. Good.
Pair her with Storm and she's fearless. Throw in a warsinger and a charge and that's +20 damage.
Lots of versatilty and potential.
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Richard II
Commander
3663 Posts
| | 03/30/2007 7:46 AM |
| | Yeah. Although in most cases I wouldn't go with the charge. I'd rather take two attacks using enhanced mobility for a potential 45 damage than just one attack for 35 damage from a powerful charge. | |
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ShadowLord XT
Commander
2646 Posts
Plane of Shadow
| | 03/30/2007 7:54 AM |
| I see.
Are there any Deathknell boosters left? | |
Disipline is the only way to overcome chaos.
Champion of Half-Golems
Knight of Golems
"This world is made for love and peace" - Trigun
"anyway..shadow..you've figured women out. KUDOS." - raye_kino16 | |
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jacksonm
Warlord
5560 Posts
River City
| | 03/30/2007 7:57 AM |
| True, but like I said versatility. If the 35 is enough to kill or force a morale then +2 to hit from the charge might be better.
Or pair her with a Dark Traveler, move up make both attacks with skirmish at range 2 and move back forcing the enemy to come to you. | | | |
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Richard II
Commander
3663 Posts
| | 03/30/2007 7:58 AM |
| Posted By ShadowLord XT on 03/30/2007 7:54 AM
I see.
Are there any Deathknell boosters left?
I would assume so. There were only six or seven people out last night, I don't think they would've bought more than six or eight of the boosters. I know I didn't buy any. Nico was the lucky one, pulling a couatl in the DK booster he bought for league.
I'd probably pass on the Dark Traveller. while interesting, his CR of 2 means you're not gonna get your map too often and more importantly you'll be making morale save at +9 which kinda stinks. Unless you spend more points pts on a secondary commander with a better CR, but that's getting expensive. | |
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The Beer Baron
Underboss
1553 Posts
"Champion of the Centaur Commander. Knight of the Gnoll Druid. Vindicated Champion of the Dragon Wrought Kobold!
| | 03/30/2007 11:44 AM |
| I'm working on my April order from WOTC. Anybody need anything bizaar and obscure? Let me know.
My rep has been out of the office for 2 weeks, so we'll see how much order their is in the WOTC universe. Retailer kits only rlease on the 7th, so it may take an extra week to get them.
Shadowrod - I have 5 DK left. | |
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ShadowLord XT
Commander
2646 Posts
Plane of Shadow
| | 03/30/2007 5:33 PM |
| For those who thought the Werewolf Lord should've had an epic card got their wish.
http://64.151.65.228/Forums/tabid/104/forumid/51/postid/709329/view/topic/Default.aspx
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Disipline is the only way to overcome chaos.
Champion of Half-Golems
Knight of Golems
"This world is made for love and peace" - Trigun
"anyway..shadow..you've figured women out. KUDOS." - raye_kino16 | |
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Richard II
Commander
3663 Posts
| | 03/31/2007 1:28 PM |
| | In terms of future schedules, I would like a non-sanctioned, ordinary 200 pt tournament every month. Given that 200 pts is what the figures are mostly designed for, I'd like to have more than 4 opportunities between sets to try things out. | |
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The Beer Baron
Underboss
1553 Posts
"Champion of the Centaur Commander. Knight of the Gnoll Druid. Vindicated Champion of the Dragon Wrought Kobold!
| | 03/31/2007 2:37 PM |
| The oppression of the league has lifted! Todays tourney saw me go 3 wins to victory! Storm, Aramil and Rikka were joined by the V.Charger, Cormyrean War Wizard, Steelheart Archer, Greycloak and his wolf. 5 people out today - Tyler, Norm, Chris V., Garret, and myself.
Our monthly prize draw ($25 Gift Certificate towards case singles) goes to Nico. Congrats. | |
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ShadowLord XT
Commander
2646 Posts
Plane of Shadow
| | 03/31/2007 3:38 PM |
| I would have won that tournament if Norm had kept his mouth shut  . | |
Disipline is the only way to overcome chaos.
Champion of Half-Golems
Knight of Golems
"This world is made for love and peace" - Trigun
"anyway..shadow..you've figured women out. KUDOS." - raye_kino16 | |
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Richard II
Commander
3663 Posts
| | 04/01/2007 1:37 PM |
| Woot, I don't have to keep asking everyone if they have virtuous chargers for trade.
So who's got a large black dragon they wanna trade? | |
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