Posted By Richard II on 07/07/2007 3:31 PM
A good tournament. My games were all very close, and winning close games is fun. Losing them isn't so much fun.

For Scott, regarding forest:

forest: (terrain) Forest squares are considered difficult terrain. Forest provides cover against ranged attacks. A creature
in a forest square has cover against melee attacks unless the attacker is adjacent to a nonforest square in the creature's
space. (Reminder: Melee Reach attacks count as ranged attacks for purposes of all cover rules, including these.) Line
of sight (but not line of effect) is blocked if the line touches a corner of a forest square or 2 edges of the same forest
square. A creature can still trace line of sight to creatures and squares in its own space as well as to adjacent creatures
and squares.

Additional Forest clarifications:

Blindsight does not allow a creature to see through forest. The Blindsight glossary definition lists the things that it
counters, and neither Forest terrain nor the effects of Forest terrain are among those things.

Against ranged attacks and Melee Reach attacks, a large or larger creature always gets cover from forest terrain when
it's in at least one square of forest terrain.

Against non-Melee Reach melee attacks, a large or larger creature always gets cover when it is entirely in forest.
However, a large or larger creature is only partially in forest gets cover only if the attacker isn't adjacent to a nonforest
square in the creature's space.

If forest gives a creature cover versus all adjacent enemies' melee attacks, that creature can move without provoking
AoOs, can make ranged attacks, and can cast non-touch spells even if it is threatened by those enemies.


Also, we need to look at dice down. I believe it's a horrible way of doing things as it is, but if you can get tile points without the round being over, that's beyond horrible.

Posted By The Beer Baron on 07/09/2007 8:28 AM
@ Shadowlord - I know how you feel. I haven't had a very good streak of luck lately either. But I keep at it.

Posted By The Beer Baron on 07/09/2007 8:21 AM

As to the dice down rule, I had to implement that some time ago, due to slow play and the fact that some people have to be picked up from the games.  If we didn't have a dice down rule, everyone will be held up when one game goes over the usual alloted time.  This leads to certain players not being able to finish games before they have to go, and so on.  Imagine a 10 hour pre-release.  So way back when this caused me to award double prizes to keep all parties happy, which is something I am not going to get in the habit of doing.  So the rule is games are given a set time, usually 45 minutes, then last round is called.  You finish the round you are on, and the points are tallied.  You have 5 minutes to do this.  If that 5 minutes expires, "dice down" is called.ÂGame play ends, and points are tallied.  There is no reason this shouldn't include tile points.

I know you dissagree, but I have given this lots of thought and it is the simplest, fairest way to move things along.  I can't put games on pause while it takes 10 minutes to look up a rule.  I also can't just keep everyone waiting while a game has gone over the time limit either.  It might seem fair to the people who still have activations left, but it isn't fair to the other players who are standing around waiting, or whose parents are in the car outside in January waiting.

I know you dissagree, but I have given this lots of thought and it is the simplest, fairest way to move things along.  I can't put games on pause while it takes 10 minutes to look up a rule.  I also can't just keep everyone waiting while a game has gone over the time limit either.  It might seem fair to the people who still have activations left, but it isn't fair to the other players who are standing around waiting, or whose parents are in the car outside in January waiting.

Posted By ShadowLord XT on 07/09/2007 8:40 AM
Richard makes a good point. Victory points are for the end of each round.
I thought dice down meant end the game. No more moving, no more dice rolling, no end of the round.

Posted By ShadowLord XT on 07/09/2007 8:40 AM
Richard makes a good point. Victory points are for the end of each round.
I thought dice down meant end the game. No more moving, no more dice rolling, no end of the round.

Posted By marcoco on 07/09/2007 12:00 PM


Makes sence to me as we dont know if the creature would have been in the victory area at the end of the round. The adjacent +25 attack monster who hadnt activated yet might have killed the 5hp bunny wabbit.

Posted By The Beer Baron on 07/09/2007 4:02 PM


If you using the 5 hp bunny wabbit, then you are playing with an illegal miniature.  The round defaults to victory for your opponent.

If you using the 5 hp bunny wabbit, then you are playing with an illegal miniature. The round defaults to victory for your opponent.

Posted By The Beer Baron on 07/13/2007 1:14 PM
Yay! Maxminis is back. I've been checking on in hordelings, but I still prefer this site.

Posted By ShadowLord XT on 07/13/2007 4:46 PM
4 people came out. Richard, Paula, Garret, and myself.
Richard won, pulling a Gold Dragon in the process.

My warband was 3 points over, but everyone was nice enough to let it slide. I just removed a goblin. I also forgot to add damage to my Cadaver Collector against Garret which would have killed it. We figured that out after the game ended in me winning.
aka I screwed up twice without even knowing it.

Posted By Ice_Troll98 on 07/13/2007 7:06 PM
only twice?!?! your getting better at not screwing up... or you got better at noticing.

Posted By The Beer Baron on 07/14/2007 9:07 AM
I like 50 feet tall amazon women. When are they making a movie for that?