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07/29/2005 12:30 AM  
National Sealed Qualifier
Aug 20, 2005
Time: 12:00pm (noon)
Cost: ?

For thoes who will not be attending Gen Con.

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07/29/2005 1:18 PM  
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It really sucks that this is on the same day as Gen Con.

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07/29/2005 3:45 PM  
It's quite hard to schedule these things, as I told Rob in an email that the last weekend of September/first weekend of October was already being looked at by Twin Falls. Even if you can't make this one, plan on hitting Twin Falls. By far Twin had the best turnout in our region and was a blast.

Utah has a small event of MTG interest on the 27th of August that precludes the date being used, labor day weekend is the following, and there were likely other conflicts for the other weekends with MTG qualifiers and states not yet being known--other events Rob cannot schedule in conflict with.


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07/30/2005 3:54 AM  
so what time is the event at Game Den starting today?

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07/30/2005 12:15 PM  
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08/04/2005 4:21 PM  
Jarvissteven with no contact info I cannot email you, but have you found out the cost for next satrudays sealed event? How about the national limited qualifier?

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08/05/2005 7:31 PM  
New event held at
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08/06/2005 9:20 PM  
Cost info for national limieded qualifier and new events added.

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08/08/2005 9:23 PM  
Both events are 25.00, two boosters AF, bring your own tiles.

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08/08/2005 9:41 PM  
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Originally posted by Jarvissteven

Both events are 25.00, two boosters AF, bring your own tiles.



I won't be attending either event at a 25 dollar price tag.

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08/09/2005 12:22 AM  
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I won't be attending either event at a 25 dollar price tag.

I was expecting that price or a little higher for the national qualifier, but I was hopping for a lower one for this Saturday. You will be missed though.

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08/09/2005 1:47 PM  
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New event held at
Hastur Hobbies

How was this event?

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08/09/2005 5:45 PM  
I guess the 25 dollars makes sense for the qualifier, but I am not interested in qualifying for that event. It's too much for a two booster draft event, even if it is a dollar less than two boosters retail.

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08/09/2005 6:00 PM  
We couldn't get enough people to play at Hasturs but I still hope we'll be able to do it sometime.

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08/11/2005 12:13 PM  
Campaign at the blackrose tonight

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08/11/2005 9:35 PM  
The qualifier really should be 30 honestly, since big events charge at least cost of boosters which retail at 27.69 after Utah taxes. If we were to run the event at say 20, we'd be operating the event at a loss considering prize payouts, cost of running the event and the boosters used. Hopefully Chattan's opinion on the matter isn't shared by the DDM community. If it is, please let us know and we won't have any more limited events (other than release or qualifier events).

I am also quite certain if the events bomb around the country, WOTC could get rid of the format altogether.

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08/12/2005 1:10 AM  
Jarvissteven, is the price for the qualifier changing?

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Hopefully Chattan's opinion on the matter isn't shared by the DDM community
what opinion are you reffering to?

this one?
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I have to say...yet again...that it is super lame to have a qualifier on the same day that the same "organization" is having a championship in a different locale (not to mention state).
I do think it is bad to have the qualifier held on the same day as the national championships, but then I am not going, so it is not much of a big deal for me at this time.

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08/12/2005 12:37 PM  
The price is set at 25.

The opinion that 25 is too much for a sealed event, and he would not be attending because of the cost. I hope others will attend, at least twenty players (or more than the pre-release).

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08/12/2005 2:11 PM  
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The opinion that 25 is too much for a sealed event, and he would not be attending because of the cost. I hope others will attend, at least twenty players (or more than the pre-release).

so you were talking about Corim Danex and not Chattan's then. I could not find where chattan had posted an opinion. I hope we do get about that for the qualifier.

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08/12/2005 8:11 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by Jarvissteven

The price is set at 25.

The opinion that 25 is too much for a sealed event, and he would not be attending because of the cost. I hope others will attend, at least twenty players (or more than the pre-release).



Uh, my opinion is that I'm getting screwed by the fact that you are running the event on the same day that I'm competing in the national championships at GenCon Indy.

I have no issues with the price tag of $25. Yes, it'll make participating in multiple events with both my son and I a bit prohibitive, but since I can't participate in the UT qualifier due to the insane scheduling, then it isn't really an issue.

I'm also regretting buying 2 cases of Angelfire. I wish I would've gotten a half case and then fortified my set by participating in sealed events and hopefully prize support for those events. As it is now, spending $25 to get more minis that I don't need is somewhat anti-climactic. Again, this isn't a statement against Game Den or anything, I'm just wishing I had been more foresightful in anticipating the Limited Season.

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08/13/2005 1:06 AM  
Anyone planning on attending our sealed event this Saturday? I know it is a bad time to have a sealed, but we did not know about the national limited qualifier when we set it up.

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08/13/2005 2:14 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by Jarvissteven

The price is set at 25.

The opinion that 25 is too much for a sealed event, and he would not be attending because of the cost. I hope others will attend, at least twenty players (or more than the pre-release).



You must have missed my second post regarding the sealed qualifier. I said that it made sense for the qualifier. However, I also meant to say that $25 for a limited draft with less prize support than the qualifier was too much for me.

It is too much for me because I already have every Angelfire miniature I want except for one and have no need to buy more boosters. I have about 70 Angelfire miniatures on my trade list. I have a total of 35 rares for trade. I don't really need that one miniature that I want. I have plenty to use to trade for it, and if I can't get it, then I will go without.

The problem is I have way overspent lately on DDM. Actually, even if the shop ran the limited draft (not talking about the qualifier) for a very low rate, I couldn't afford it right now anyway. When I wrote that post, I believed I could afford a $20 limited draft. Since then, I bought a large collection from someone and used up my minis budget.

Basically, the only money I can spend on miniatures for a couple of months is for mailing trades. Maybe a $5 non draft event here and there. This isn't being stingy. This is me being more realistic with my finances at the moment.

I do believe that $25 is too high for a non-qualifier limited draft. Game Den held a 2 booster draft in Provo a few months ago, and the price was $15.

I do think it is very unfair for the sealed qualifier to happen during GenCon, regardless of whatever reasons the store may have for choosing that day.

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08/14/2005 12:53 AM  
Only had 1 player show today, Jarvissteven did not even show up [:(]

Drakkengi was the only one to attend. I hope we do much better next week. I know we should have several from Provo and I hope ID.

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08/14/2005 1:11 AM  
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Only had 1 player show today, Jarvissteven did not even show up [:(]

Drakkengi was the only one to attend. I hope we do much better next week. I know we should have several from Provo and I hope ID.



Ouch! What did you do? Cancel it?

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08/14/2005 1:33 AM  
Yes. They cancelled it. I called spikegif 45 minutes after start time and he was leaving. He came over to my place and my wife joined us for an interesting nonstandard game where two of us had 150 point warbands to challenge a 350 point warband including a Huge Gold Dragon. The two players won 2 of 3.

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08/14/2005 2:00 AM  
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Yes. They cancelled it. I called spikegif 45 minutes after start time and he was leaving. He came over to my place and my wife joined us for an interesting nonstandard game where two of us had 150 point warbands to challenge a 350 point warband including a Huge Gold Dragon. The two players won 2 of 3.



Were the 2 players able to strategize together?

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08/14/2005 2:35 AM  
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Were the 2 players able to strategize together?
some, but I tied not to. I played LG and Corim played LE. I had 3 Couatls and a warmage. Corim played a Ogre Mage and 3 Chraals. The HGD also had Cleric of order, 2 aser raiders, and 1 bronze wyrmling. We had the HGD start in the center and Corim and myself at opposite ends. First turn HUG wins init, flys 12 spaces and fires on 3 chraals and ogre mage, 1 chraal makes its save, then Ogre mage rolls 20 for its save, but then fails morral, game over.
Next 2 games, we won init and allowed the dragon to go last, we were able to spread out and lived longer. second game laster longer, but we did get wipped a little. last game we had it won, the 180 sonic orbs and 20 acid from warmage, along with all the cold damage that the chraals did helped.

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08/14/2005 1:17 PM  
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quote:
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Yes. They cancelled it. I called spikegif 45 minutes after start time and he was leaving. He came over to my place and my wife joined us for an interesting nonstandard game where two of us had 150 point warbands to challenge a 350 point warband including a Huge Gold Dragon. The two players won 2 of 3.



Were the 2 players able to strategize together?

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I think I said a few comments that I shouldn't have occassionally during the three games, if we weren't supposed to coordinate. I need to get better at keeping quiet.

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08/15/2005 2:12 PM  
Any idea on the numbers that will be attending the Limited Qual on Sat? I'm hoping to be there, will be leaving from home earlier than the last time. [:)]

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08/15/2005 4:54 PM  
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Any idea on the numbers that will be attending the Limited Qual on Sat? I'm hoping to be there, will be leaving from home earlier than the last time. [:)]


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08/15/2005 7:41 PM  
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Any idea on the numbers that will be attending the Limited Qual on Sat? I'm hoping to be there, will be leaving from home earlier than the last time. [:)]





What was that, spikegif? I think you posted before typing your comment.

Toxic_Rat, while I will not be participating in the qualifier, I do intend to be there with my trade stuff. Could you have your trade stuff with you (at least in your car)? I didn't make it to the Black Rose when you came up.

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08/15/2005 10:06 PM  
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Any idea on the numbers that will be attending the Limited Qual on Sat? I'm hoping to be there, will be leaving from home earlier than the last time. [:)]



For some reason I was losing posts, I was getting overflow even with 5-10 min between posts.

I hope that we will have near 20 if not more. but judging from last saturdays event, I am now not sure. We will have players come up from Provo, and we hope to get some down from ID.

I do know that some players have commented that it was placed on this Saturday just to get the better players out of the state so some other could win [:)]

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08/15/2005 10:26 PM  
It wasn't chosen for this Sat. to exclude players. Rob wants numbers. He isn't playing, and I only mentioned the two dates we needed to avoid overlapping Twin Falls.


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08/15/2005 11:42 PM  
quote:
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quote:
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quote:
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Any idea on the numbers that will be attending the Limited Qual on Sat? I'm hoping to be there, will be leaving from home earlier than the last time. [:)]





What was that, spikegif? I think you posted before typing your comment.

Toxic_Rat, while I will not be participating in the qualifier, I do intend to be there with my trade stuff. Could you have your trade stuff with you (at least in your car)? I didn't make it to the Black Rose when you came up.



Heh, I was sick as a dog when everyone was going to go trade at the Black Rose.[xx(] But I got better. Yeah, I'll bring my stuff so you can have a look see.

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08/16/2005 5:55 PM  
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It wasn't chosen for this Sat. to exclude players. Rob wants numbers. He isn't playing, and I only mentioned the two dates we needed to avoid overlapping Twin Falls.



You can only hold the event on 1 of 3 weekends? I thought we had a whole bunch of time before SoCal.

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08/16/2005 8:31 PM  
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It wasn't chosen for this Sat. to exclude players. Rob wants numbers. He isn't playing, and I only mentioned the two dates we needed to avoid overlapping Twin Falls.



While I'm sure this is true, you are going to miss 4 people because of the conflict with GenCon (pilias, Mook, my son, and myself). That's $100 right there.

BTW, I'm more upset with WotC over this scheduling issue than with Game Den. They shouldn't have allowed that as a legal date.

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08/24/2005 12:56 PM  
This Saturday will be back to our normal every other week event. This week will be 200pt constructed. Come and have some fun after all our hard work at major events.

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08/24/2005 1:48 PM  
I've heard some talk on the boards about people changing tournaments to the 8 figure limit so we can get used to it. Do you think that's something we might be doing in the near future?

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08/24/2005 3:45 PM  
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I've heard some talk on the boards about people changing tournaments to the 8 figure limit so we can get used to it. Do you think that's something we might be doing in the near future?

nothing is keeping you from running your warband that way, but we be following DCI rules for our DCI events. So this Saturday will be the standard 12 minis.

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08/24/2005 4:42 PM  
we can run a different map, if we get enought copies

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