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02/12/2006 1:59 PM  
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Oh, and if some of you guys could scrounge up some spare Epic cards from the kits and bring 'em, that'd be cool. :)





That would be great. Mmmmm my flight is leaving too early for the store I go to tournaments at that saves them to be open... its an hour and a half drive but if I can make it up there before WF ill bring a bunch.

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02/12/2006 7:56 PM  
This is really cool that we are on a site for a major con!!!

Thanks to Ratty and Ian!

Well as the event is less then 2 weeks away, I'm sure we will find out more about what everyone is bringing and what types of prizes will be there, but some surprises would be great!

As for the boosters, just remember we need to have 200 point boosters to make sure hte pods for the draft are fair. Check the main thread.

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02/12/2006 9:19 PM  
Speaking of the pods, is a plan in place for that? 6 pods of 5, or what?

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02/12/2006 9:36 PM  
Kith:

We'll decide when we see exactly how many are playing. The goal is to stick with pods of 4, and we'll do our darndest to stick to that.

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02/13/2006 12:37 AM  
I got a decent amount of AoL/Mordy cards today, ill bring them with for those that don't have them.

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02/13/2006 8:55 AM  
So how does this whole pod thing work. We do the draft then play each person in the Pod. What happens after that.

I've never done a draft with more than 4 people so I don't know the process.

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02/13/2006 10:20 AM  
Draft with a Pod of 4, the description for Drafting is in the new floor rules available over on the WotC site.

First round matchup's will be from your pod, but after that, we'll repair with winners playing winners, and the losers playing the other losers, just like any other swiss tournament.

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02/13/2006 12:44 PM  
Just to let everyone know, they have now added 70 more slots to the WD prerelease event! Jump in quick for a spot.

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02/13/2006 1:28 PM  
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Just to let everyone know, they have now added 70 more slots to the WD prerelease event! Jump in quick for a spot.



70??? dang that just got massive. Ill email Mark real quick hopefully he will get it.

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02/13/2006 1:33 PM  
yeah sold out sign is still up.

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02/13/2006 1:34 PM  
Where'd you see that?! I still see only 50 slots, and the "sold Out" sign hanging up...

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02/13/2006 2:42 PM  
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Just to let everyone know, they have now added 70 more slots to the WD prerelease event! Jump in quick for a spot.



70??? dang that just got massive. Ill email Mark real quick hopefully he will get it.



Steve you are the man!! Thanks for thinking of me - but it is just Vintage that I need into... got my WD already.

Thanks again! That was cool. I need to talk to Black Flame Zealot and see if he is still getting off his ticket for Vintage?

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02/13/2006 4:13 PM  
Very interestng. When I looked this morning it said 70 and was open. Now it says 50 and is sold out... I'm not sure how this happened.

Well if more people got in, great... if not, sorry.

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02/13/2006 4:31 PM  
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Very interestng. When I looked this morning it said 70 and was open. Now it says 50 and is sold out... I'm not sure how this happened.

Well if more people got in, great... if not, sorry.



Weird, oh well, I think most people that missed stuff missed the Vintage as opposed to the prerelease. When you first put it i thought you meant they had added 70 to 120, and my jaw dropped.

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02/13/2006 6:38 PM  
I thought it was bumped up to 70, but now it seems to be only bumped up to 50.

Well it seems that 50 is the new number. So I think we may hit 40 for our event though.

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02/14/2006 1:06 AM  
I have 14 maps printed so far - 7 were laminated. The plotter ran out of paper. I'll be purchasing another roll this week and print off some more. I plan to bring at least 20 copies to the tournament. That would cover 40 players.

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02/14/2006 5:27 AM  
Chad, you're the man! ΖD]Thanks for your efforts.

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02/14/2006 7:50 AM  
Chad I also printed 3 copies, to cover George, Josh and myself. What print rez are you using for yours? I've done one in Final and the other two in draft... final version is for me - richer colors, but the Draft versions don't look bad?

BTW - Good job! - doing this for the group.

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02/14/2006 8:16 AM  
The extra 20 seats are probobly for the Hotel Room offer. That way if the people who got the "Free" tickets decide to drop they can reissue them onsite.

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02/14/2006 9:22 AM  
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The extra 20 seats are probobly for the Hotel Room offer. That way if the people who got the "Free" tickets decide to drop they can reissue them onsite.



Very good point. It makes sense that the number then shows up as 50, and sold out immidiately. Well then we can hope that some will not use and some of the people who really want to can get in. We will have to watch for next year, if they do this again we will have to sign up fast as they sold out fast.

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02/14/2006 9:25 AM  
Chad,

Thanks for the printing! This is fantastic. Remember everyone that if you would like to have one of these fantastic maps to keep after the event, you will have to slip Chad a little green. These will be a great reminder of a fun event, so get them while they are hot!

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02/14/2006 9:30 AM  
So I was just on consupport and taking a look at the events. It would appear that there are still only 2 sold out events for minis. Also it seems that there is no number i nthe Maxminis event list, so I know it is 30, but maybe we can creep up to 40.

How many people plan on playing league at Winterfantasy? I'm just curious as to numbers.

Well with about a week and a few days to go, everything looks set for the Maxminis Draft. Any questions make sure they get posted so we can deal with them before the event.

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02/14/2006 10:41 AM  
I'm probobly going to play League. I was signed up for a few LG events but dropped them so I now have some free time.

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02/14/2006 11:24 AM  
Im doing league, got to kill downtimes somehow.

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02/14/2006 12:55 PM  
I'm playing as much League as I can stomach. I don't plan on doing any RPG, so I'm doing league during the times that I'm not scheduled for another DDM activity.

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02/14/2006 2:48 PM  
Excellent! League can be fun and with this many it should be easy to pick up a game. Last year it was hard between some of the events to find a game, but this year it looks like more people will be playing.

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02/14/2006 4:22 PM  
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seriously tho - I will be playing league.. what time does the hall open for people to start wandering in? noonish? I will be very easy to spot.. again, I will have custom made TShirts for the event with my slogan - "Minis, Serious Business" on them.

Figure Noon on Thursday? start loitering about, saying hi to folks, waiting for the signups for league?

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02/14/2006 6:13 PM  
For now it will be an onsite decision whether to play leagure or not. I am wondering how the hotel program for tickets will work, cause I bought a ticket to the pre-release and also have a room at the hotel.


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02/14/2006 8:21 PM  
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what time does the hall open for people to start wandering in?


According to the RPGA site, it looks like it starts at 8am on Thursday.

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=rpga/conventions/wf-ddm

I'm not sure how accurate that is, tho. Everything else I've seen has league games starting after lunch. I might be there at 8am just in case. [:)]

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02/15/2006 3:51 AM  
I will probably show up about noonish I guess.

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02/15/2006 6:51 AM  
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For now it will be an onsite decision whether to play leagure or not. I am wondering how the hotel program for tickets will work, cause I bought a ticket to the pre-release and also have a room at the hotel.



My question exactly. I bought tickets to the hotel early, so I had to pay for me WD prerelease. The latecomers get it for free! What's up with that? Someone ought to write a parable about it [:)].

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02/15/2006 9:45 AM  
Pat, Mark: I think you guys are out of luck... I might be way off base, but I think that they weren't selling the hotel rooms the way they had promised, so they put out the incentive. That means that likely, they weren't looking to reward those who had already committed, rather they were trying to incentify MORE people to get into the hotel.

Let me know how you make out though!

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02/15/2006 11:46 AM  
I want to make sure I understand the build rules for the Maxmini's event...

200pts

8 fig or 12 fig?

no commander = speed 2?


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02/15/2006 12:32 PM  
8 Figs worked fairly well at GenCon to speed up play, and the only problems that I heard about it were in the pods that had to many Dragoneye or Aberrations boosters. We've taken those out of the running, so 8 figs should work fine.


I'd advocate no commander = speed 2, though I'm willing to listen if the masses feel otherwise.

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02/15/2006 12:40 PM  
Speed 2 or Full speed with no commander is ok with me. I also like the 8 fig limit because it does speed up play.

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02/15/2006 1:24 PM  
I vote 8 figures and no commander = speed 2. I am still hesitant to change the command rules until WarDrums is out. Maybe it is as simple as everyone has been saying, but one thing I like about DDM is commanders so making them less important is bad IMHO.

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02/15/2006 1:48 PM  
The "no commander = full speed" rules were designed to incorporate both limited and constructed events. If you ask me they're actually PERFECT for limited events. How many times have you been in a sealed or draft tournament with only a wussy commander or no commadner at all? If it doesn't kill your movement, you enjoy the game a lot more if you end up stuck in that unfortunate situation.

The ruleset isn't that complex, and we'll have the designers, and guys with full knowledge of the rules right there to help. I say we grab the bull by the horns, and make the draft process much less aversive to folks with no commander.

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02/15/2006 1:49 PM  
I vote full speed, don't forget we will have rule books in hand from the Pre-release that day.

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02/15/2006 5:15 PM  
I'd vote full speed and 8 figures. I had the no commander rule. Also, do we have to preregister? I noticed it was on the site, but there is no register button. Do we register there rather than preregister?

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02/16/2006 12:23 AM  
From Wizards:

Many have asked exactly what vintage product we will be using for the Vintage tournament at Winter Fantasy 2006.

Well here's the good news!

The build will be:
One Harbinger Booster Pack
One Archfiend Booster Pack

From that contestants will build a 100-point Limited warband.

The format is Quickstrike to truly take us back to our roots.
Quickstrike: A player wins when they eliminate enemies whose total cost is equal to 70% of the total allowed warband cost, 70 points in a 100-point game, or when his or her opponent is reduced to one creature on the battlefield.

End-of-Match Procedure
A match ends when:

a player meets the scenario’s victory condition,
no creature takes damage and no player makes an attack roll or saving throw for 10 complete game rounds, or
the tournament round time runs out. If the tournament round time runs out during a game round, play continues until a player meets the scenario’s victory condition, or the end of that game round (whichever happens first).
Victory conditions are checked at the end of each creature’s activation, as well as at the end of each round.

Maps are used but victory areas are ignored. Start and exit areas are as printed so you don't need to bring those old maps and tiles!

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