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09/28/2005 10:44 PM Alert 
recovered topic 9267

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09/28/2005 10:44 PMAlert 
You forgot to mrntion the maps.

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09/29/2005 9:03 AMAlert 
lol

still not soon enough...

i have an AT-ST though so i can wait :P

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09/29/2005 11:25 AMAlert 
The larger maps will be very nice. I'd love some more outdoor terrian for SWM.

Come to think of it are these maps going to bestandard size or Huge friendly? I'd assume the latter, given we are getting an AT-ST with it.

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09/29/2005 12:20 PMAlert 
I wish they had tossed in some ewoks or something :)


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09/29/2005 3:38 PMAlert 
There is a group out there hoping that the AT-ST isn't just an alternate pose, but also alternate Faction- Rebel to be specific (the wookiee/ewok captured AT-ST from RotJ).

Refactioned, and Unique (ala "Counts as Chewbacca"), it would be the perfect rebel gift...

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09/29/2005 3:41 PMAlert 
quote:
Originally posted by Terin

I wish they had tossed in some ewoks or something :)

You read the Uncon transcript on the WotC board?
The desire for more ewoks has been communicated to them [^]

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09/29/2005 10:09 PMAlert 
I finally got an AT-ST, and I'm really disappointed in it -- the proportions are WAY off. The art is accurate (the "head" being larger and the legs shorter), but the model itself has such a tiny head and looong legs that it just looks goofy.

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09/29/2005 10:29 PMAlert 
will these be new scuplts?

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09/30/2005 12:03 AMAlert 
What kinda maps????

All Endor Moon forrest???

I kinda hope the At-ST is not Chewie's .....Hard for RPG...

But we can trade em' to the skirmish guys......grin

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09/30/2005 5:39 AMAlert 
What does Chewie's AT-ST look like anyway? An At-St with the tophatch blown off and a wookie head sticking out.

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quote:
Originally posted by Thor

What kinda maps????

All Endor Moon forrest???

I kinda hope the At-ST is not Chewie's .....Hard for RPG...

But we can trade em' to the skirmish guys......grin


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09/30/2005 12:45 PMAlert 
quote:
Originally posted by wicked cool

will these be new scuplts?
No.
However, the AT-ST will be a repostioned sculpt (probably head turned, leg raise etc.)

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10/06/2005 8:31 PMAlert 
They haven't exactly wowed up with resculpts so far. I mean the RoTS destroyer droid is pretty uninspired.



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quote:
Originally posted by wicked cool

will these be new scuplts?
No.
However, the AT-ST will be a repostioned sculpt (probably head turned, leg raise etc.)


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10/06/2005 8:54 PMAlert 
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They haven't exactly wowed up with resculpts so far. I mean the RoTS destroyer droid is pretty uninspired.
Yeah, but the Clones got better and so did the Battle Droids...

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10/07/2005 11:33 AMAlert 
The sculpts did improve a great deal, however I still like the CS Destroyer Droid as well as Count Dooku over their Rots versions.

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10/07/2005 1:39 PMAlert 
quote:
Originally posted by Cthulhufnord

The sculpts did improve a great deal, however I still like the CS Destroyer Droid as well as Count Dooku over their Rots versions.

Oh, absolutely agree on the CS Destroyers (but really, there wasn't much they could do with the pose- they nailed it the first time)

But Dooku? Really? Foam Finger "Sith are Number One!" Count Dookie?

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10/07/2005 1:55 PMAlert 
The Pose on Darth Tyranus is kinda annoying for me, his 'saber is so close to the ground it props the mini on it's side. Also the face and features on Dooku are clearer and more Christopher Lee than Tyranus, who looks more like genero-old guy.

I could do without the foam hand but taking into account the models posture and clairity I have to go with Dooku.

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10/07/2005 7:09 PMAlert 
quote:
Originally posted by Cthulhufnord

The Pose on Darth Tyranus is kinda annoying for me, his 'saber is so close to the ground it props the mini on it's side.
Yeah, some have the arm glued entirely too low. When the arm is glued properly, the mini looks better.
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10/09/2005 8:06 PM Alert 
Any news on the maps for Endor???

That is a little strange that they would have an Endor set with no ewoks. I'm thinking we haven't got all the facts just yet.

There has got to be ewoks.... Who would the Troopers fight???

This re-doing the AT-ST sounds fishy......


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10/09/2005 11:57 PMAlert 
quote:
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That is a little strange that they would have an Endor set with no ewoks. I'm thinking we haven't got all the facts just yet. There has got to be ewoks.... Who would the Troopers fight???
Well, I could suppose Rob was lying to us when he said no ewoks. I don't know what his motivation would be. Besides, it is called Attack on Endor, so it may just contain the attacking forces...

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This re-doing the AT-ST sounds fishy......
In what way? They already have the sculpt, they just reposition it- presto! New product to put in the Endor Pack. People who have to collect evey variation will buy it, people who just want an AT-ST will buy it. Personally, I am glad as it has kept the secondary market prices for AT-STs down.

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10/10/2005 6:13 AMAlert 
Huh, I checked my AT-STs and I really don't get how they could just "re-position" it without re-sculpting. The only things they could manage before gluing the thing together are:

1- Cockpit "looking" sideways
2- Cannons turned in another direction (well, both my AR-STs are already different form that pov)
3- ...

I really think they'll re-sculpt, or leave it as such. Legs positions can't be changed without resculpting (or bending them "tripping on rolling woodchunks" lame-o-style).

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10/10/2005 10:14 PMAlert 
quote:
Originally posted by Thor

There has got to be ewoks....

Lifted from the 9/21 Chat:
(Questioned on why no Ewoks in Attack on Endor)
We didn't have room for the little fellows.

followed by:
Are we getting more, different ewoks? Ewok on glider, ewok with log, ewok with slingshot, ewok on speeder, crushed under AT-ST ewok, sith ewok?
People seem to want Ewoks. There are no additional Ewoks in Champions of the Force or Bounty Hunters ...after that, we'll try to work some in.

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10/12/2005 8:17 AMAlert 
I'd like them to re-do the AT-ST so the head and legs are properly proportioned. The existing sculpt has the legs too long AND the head too small! (Just look at the art on the card and you'll see the proper proportions)

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10/19/2005 8:35 PMAlert 
Well it seems there will be No Ewoks.......

That is still strange in a product about Endor. We don't really need the extra troopers.............

Nice to have had more then the one single sculpt for the lil guys...

I still hope we don't have all the facts in yet.


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10/21/2005 10:03 AMAlert 
Yeah, what about unique ewoks? Chief Chirpa! Teebo! Paploo!

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10/21/2005 11:44 AMAlert 
Rob has said we'll get Ewoks sometime. I think with this being the maiden voyage of the troop building map pack. They chose what seems to be the most popular faction at the moment. My guess would be we'll start getting a mix soon after this. The only thing I'm abit worried about is that it HAS TO SELL. I'll admit with such a hiatus I hope it does and seels very well at that. The saving grace should hopefully be huge friendly maps.

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10/21/2005 2:28 PMAlert 
I can't belive I asked for more Ewoks in a public place.........

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10/22/2005 1:37 PMAlert 
quote:
Originally posted by Darthrau

The saving grace should hopefully be huge friendly maps.
I think the saving grace may also be the guaranteed AT-ST. A lot of the people who hate the random nature but want the figure (for other systems like SWMB, the RPG or to just to collect), may be willing to buy it.

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11/02/2005 10:12 AMAlert 
Has anyone heard anything about the price of this pack? I'm trying to decide if I'm ordering an At-St as a single or not...

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11/02/2005 10:25 AMAlert 
Im gonna chime in that the Clone Strike Count Dooku looks MUCH better than the crappy old man Darth Tyranus mini from RotS.

You heard it from the man himself [:D]


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11/03/2005 3:23 AMAlert 
Nice, I'm glad I'm not the only one on this.[:D]

quote:
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Im gonna chime in that the Clone Strike Count Dooku looks MUCH better than the crappy old man Darth Tyranus mini from RotS.

You heard it from the man himself [:D]




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11/03/2005 10:18 AMAlert 
trouble is to actually get your hands on a Dooku (which i would love to)

I really like that character, he seems honorable for a sith :).

As for the AT-ST i definitely hope it's Imperial faction. If its for rebels, i personally won't be interested.

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11/03/2005 1:50 PMAlert 
quote:
Originally posted by Jhonwolf

As for the AT-ST i definitely hope it's Imperial faction. If its for rebels, i personally won't be interested.
And I hope it is a Rebel (albeit a Unique). They could really use it.

We Imperials already have non Unique AT-STs... and the Commander Effects to make 'em devastating [:D]

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11/03/2005 1:54 PMAlert 
quote:
Originally posted by Count Dooku

Im gonna chime in that the Clone Strike Count Dooku looks MUCH better than the crappy old man Darth Tyranus mini from RotS.
Even with the silly "Sith are #1" foam finger? [:D]

Or is it an oven mitt? [:p]

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11/04/2005 2:17 AMAlert 
Sith are #1. [:D] Just look at all those happy smiles... well one smile at least.


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11/04/2005 5:37 AMAlert 
Hey Vader is always smiling. I can't see the AT-ST being Rebel. One other ramble AT-AT next week yippie!!!!

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11/04/2005 10:48 AMAlert 
I'm not too worried about the rebels, while the troops themselves are not great, they said the faction would get back up in the next sets. One thing they need the most is an Anti-tank missle (like the assault class in Battlefront).

Trouble with putting a unique at-st for the rebels is that...fluff wise it can't be used in many scenarios: rebels didn't use AT-ST as far as i know. We'd start seeing rebel AT-ST's everywhere. It's much better to leave such a stapple vehicle to the faction it belongs to.

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11/04/2005 1:31 PMAlert 
quote:
Originally posted by Jhonwolf

One thing they need the most is an Anti-tank missle.
They have one. His name is Chewbacca, Rebel Hero [:D]

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Trouble with putting a unique at-st for the rebels is that...fluff wise it can't be used in many scenarios: rebels didn't use AT-ST as far as i know.
I really don't look to the game to enforce fluff. As it stands, dead characters can fight characters who weren't even born when they were alive etc. It it up to the players to decide what level of fluff they want to enforce.

And the rebels were know to used scavanged vehicles. Don't see why a single AT-ST would be an exception. And the Rebel specific vehicles are likely in Bounty Hunters.

quote:
We'd start seeing rebel AT-ST's everywhere.
Well, it being a unique would prevent it from being used in multiples and we don't even know the final stats. And one reason we see the proliferation of AT-STs is that the Empire has the Commander Effects to make them more effective.

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It's much better to leave such a stapple vehicle to the faction it belongs to.
Like the Fringe Viper Droid? [)]

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11/13/2005 3:28 PMAlert 
To Mordantos:

You obviously don't care as much for the fluff as i do. We don't do "free for all" types fo game here. So Grievous is not going to fight Darth Vader and there is not enough Chewbaccas to fight the empire at-st's all over the galaxy. Games are what -you-, as a player, make it. Just a divergeance of opinion on what is "fun".

As for the rocket launcher, it's pretty boring to have to rely on the same character (and a classic one at that) for all maps that include an at-st. Having a rebel vehicle or non-unique troop with an AT weapon would solve the issue and look better for an army theme.

I don't know what you mean with the viper droid thing...it just doesn't make sense.



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11/14/2005 10:49 AMAlert 
Why not make it either faction. They could print a card for use as an Imperial alt pose AT-ST or as a captured Rebel AT-ST. Who is to say that the Rebels on other planets have not caputered one to use... Who is to say that after the battle on Endor, some rebels didn't take it to hunt down some lone Imperials...

I say print up both cards and make it useable for both factions.

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