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12/27/2005 9:02 AM Alert 
In case it was missed Rob has kindly given a full preview of Exar Kun which can be found on the wizards starwars minis boards at

http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=558350

I have to say, I'm fairly impressed. A couple of the bigger Jedi and Sith will be able to beat this guy in a straight fight but his commander effect makes a lot of the savage charactersquite a bit more useful.


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12/27/2005 9:16 AMAlert 
decent sculpt. is he in kotor?

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12/27/2005 9:42 AMAlert 
Exar Kun was in the Champions of the Force book series. He was one of the original Sith Lords. (Maybe the first, I can't remember.) He turned Kyp Durron to the Dark Side after Han rescued Kyp from the Spice Mines. His force spirit was stored in the Massassi temples on Yavin IV.

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12/27/2005 11:17 AMAlert 
Well, the sculpt and paint job look a bit so-so. Not uninteresting, but a bit so-so. Looking forward to see more of the set, though.

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12/27/2005 2:07 PMAlert 
Awsome.

Exar Kuns 1st appearance was in the "Tales of the Jedi" comic book series that took place 4000 years before the movies (or was it 2000? I cant remember). Either way its thousands of years before the Knight sof the Old Republic game!!

He was a sith bfore the "Only 2 there are" rule went into effect.

I strongly suggest reading the tales of the Jedi Comics.

Kun does come back later as an evil sith spirit that corrupts Kyp Durron....thats in the "Jedi Acadamy" novel trilogy.

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12/28/2005 3:56 AMAlert 
quote:
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Awsome.

Exar Kuns 1st appearance was in the "Tales of the Jedi" comic book series that took place 4000 years before the movies (or was it 2000? I cant remember). Either way its thousands of years before the Knight sof the Old Republic game!!


First time I glimpse a hole in your extensive SW knowledge, my dear Count... The KOTOR games ARE 4000 years before the movies, hence your figures must be wrong... Don't know about the Kun guy, though. For all I know, it should be long before the KOTOR game, as the Sith are doing rather well at the beginning of the game.

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12/28/2005 9:24 AMAlert 
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First time I glimpse a hole in your extensive SW knowledge, my dear Count... The KOTOR games ARE 4000 years before the movies, hence your figures must be wrong... Don't know about the Kun guy, though. For all I know, it should be long before the KOTOR game, as the Sith are doing rather well at the beginning of the game.



Oh someone needs to double check...because I think KotOR takes place 1000 years before the movies.

Tales of the Jedi comic books take place 4000 before.

Theres a new SW book that was released called "The Essential Chronology"

Its a history book that goes over the events in the Star Wars timeline. It spoils alot if you havent read the books but it goes from the Golden Age of the Sith (5000 years ago) all the way to the end of the New Jedi Order series.

I want it :)

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12/28/2005 9:47 AMAlert 
The official SW databank says Malak's attacks happened four millenia before the New Order (i.e. the Galactic Empire), FOLLOWING the "Great Sith Uprising", if that helps... I know nothing of the "Tales of the Jedi" and other books and stuff...too hard to find them in English, and the French translation of books and comics is usually cr*ppy at best. Though the SW comics look better and better...

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12/28/2005 10:30 AMAlert 
Well I can say Kun was before Malak and the Uprising. But it's been a while since I've read the books to give any est. dates.

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12/28/2005 9:52 PMAlert 
I'm pretty sure Dooku is right. Lucas closed to 2000 years before ANH for KOTOR and related comics(coming out soon I might add).

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12/29/2005 4:10 AMAlert 
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I'm pretty sure Dooku is right. Lucas closed to 2000 years before ANH for KOTOR and related comics(coming out soon I might add).



Nope, starwars.com says 4.000. Actually, all those things happen roughly during the same "era", though I'll leave the exact sequencing of the events to the experts.

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12/29/2005 12:28 PMAlert 
I'm surprised and impressed with the potency of his force powers. Seems like he's going to be teleporting all over the place with the help of his ewok fodder. The whole teleport and tripple attack, or tripple atack and then teleport away seems like its going to be heavily used.


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12/29/2005 1:56 PMAlert 
Exar is certainly interesting, with the teleporting, CE for Savage, and poison pill for Force users if he is defeated.

An Ewok next to a Medical Droid, stationed in a safe room (ideally with Lobot, providing said Ewok & MD as well as a lock for the door) may become a staple.

I think his lack of defensive powers and accurate shooters (to hunt his ewoks) could be his achilles heel. Of course, in a larger game, the opponent may be too busy dealing in momentum enhanced creatures to take advantage of it...

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12/29/2005 4:07 PMAlert 
I dont own an X-Box but I took KotOR off the shelf and sure enough....4000 years ago.

I am very confused now.

In Episode 1 Ki-Adi-Mundi says "The Sith have been extinct for a millenia".

1000 years ago is when the jedi finally whiped out the sith. Darth Bane was the last surviving sith and he created the "Only 2 Sith" law. Ever since that day the sith have taken the dame Darth. Which means before the Darth Bane there should have neen no Darths.

I think the movies and video games and comic books are all conflicting with each other right now.

Even more incentive to read "The Esential Chronology".

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12/29/2005 10:58 PMAlert 
The Sculpt and Paint Job do seem a little bleh to me, It looks like he's wearing red mittens. His statistics are very interesting and potentialy very powerfull. I'm looking forward to trying him out with some Savage and fringe characters. Oh and the Ewok teleportation sounds amusing.

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01/01/2006 7:43 PMAlert 
NIce maybe we shall see kyp now oh please, oh please


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01/06/2006 5:01 AMAlert 
First i like a lot the character
the sculpt is very simple but nice even that i dont like the scar and the tatto on face because seems like he have a pizza over.
the stats are very overpowered, if we suffer because vader JH this one would make a hole in our head when we fight him, let wait playtesting to give a complete opinion

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01/06/2006 6:58 AMAlert 
quote:
Originally posted by Count Dooku

I dont own an X-Box but I took KotOR off the shelf and sure enough....4000 years ago.

I am very confused now.

[...]

I think the movies and video games and comic books are all conflicting with each other right now.

Even more incentive to read "The Esential Chronology".



Well, "there is no conflict". I think the Timeline on Dark Horse Comics site helps.

Roughly, I'd say that either the KOTOR games happen AFTER the other events, which means they happen more like 3900 BBY, OR they happen BEFORE. I need to check, but is the 4000 figures not "before the phantom menace era", which would mean 4030 BBY and fit in the timeline?

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01/06/2006 7:04 AMAlert 
YES! I got it...

Here is your answer...

KotOR I happens 4005 years before Episode I. 4037 BBY...
KotOR II happens 4000 years before Episode I. 4032 BBY...

The timeline is right!

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01/09/2006 12:43 PMAlert 
I noticed that but haven't been back to rescind my earlier statement. Oh and for those interested the KOTOR comics (not based on the game but a few (5?) years earlier) will hit shelves in Feb/ March.

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01/10/2006 3:46 PMAlert 
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if we suffer because vader JH this one would make a hole in our head when we fight him
Well, unlike Vader JH, he has no real defensive abilities (other than a very high Defense).

The Transfer Essence is very interesting, and the draining of force users after Kun leaves the board via Dark Force Spirit could be crippling to Jedi Teams (talk about a posion pill!).

A lot of possibilites, but without Block/Deflect or Dark Armor, I don't see him having the staying power of Vader JH. Ranged shooters (with cheap figures to combine fire) could well be the bane of Kun.


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01/10/2006 11:37 PMAlert 
But he have lots of powerful abilities! is hard to get close to him if somebody uses right, but certainly that´s a weak point about defense.

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01/11/2006 6:31 AMAlert 
I think we'll have to see the "anti- force" stuff in CotF also. Exar is strong and by all means brought the Sith back from extinction. The Jedi also the Sith throughout most of history as well. Meaning the Old Republic might get two Jedi who equal Exar's cost who could well beat him. That's the way the Jedi mostly beat the Sith many on one and Sith infighting. Since we won't see infighting in SWM. I'm guessing we'll see many on one scenarios.


* if that make sense. After reading it I'm a little lost. :)

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01/31/2006 11:35 PMAlert 
COTF should bring one or two Yungzha Vongs!

Somebody play tested this exar kun???

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02/04/2006 11:49 AMAlert 
I'll trade mine for a Dewback.....Nice figure but I have way to many Jedi guys as it is....I could use more humans as well not Alians...

What's this about telaporting Ewoks???? Sounds like crazy talk..GRIN

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02/05/2006 3:44 AMAlert 
Transfer Essence (Force 1, usable only on this character’s turn: Choose 1 living ally. Remove that ally from play and place Exar Kun in that ally’s space; that ally is defeated.)

This power lets him Teleport around the Map at the expense of your own troops. Given that Ewoks are among the cheapest fringers an Exar Kun warband will likely contain a few of them to let him 'port around the map.


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What's this about telaporting Ewoks???? Sounds like crazy talk..GRIN


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02/05/2006 3:32 PMAlert 
I take it Exar Kun is not a nice guy....???

No invites to the Jedi BarBQ..........

Sounds like a cool Ability. Espesialy if you hate Jawas....GRIN

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02/05/2006 11:54 PMAlert 
quote:
Originally posted by Cthulhufnord

Transfer Essence (Force 1, usable only on this character’s turn: Choose 1 living ally. Remove that ally from play and place Exar Kun in that ally’s space; that ally is defeated.)

This power lets him Teleport around the Map at the expense of your own troops. Given that Ewoks are among the cheapest fringers an Exar Kun warband will likely contain a few of them to let him 'port around the map.


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What's this about telaporting Ewoks???? Sounds like crazy talk..GRIN





Little ortodox but pretty Useful!

Kun and Ewoks! terrific combo!!!

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