Count Dooku
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 | | 03/21/2006 11:52 AM |
| Its funny...When I heard about minis for Star Wars my very 1st reaction was "Oh sweet will they be doing Expanded Universe?"
The #1 things I wanted to see in the minis are characters from novels, comics and video games.
Grand Admiral Thrawn, Yuzahn Vong, The Emperor Reborn as a Clone, Jacen and Jaina Solo, Dark Troopers, ARC Troopers, Kyle Katarn, Characters from Tales of the Jedi.
These were all the things I really hoped to see.
The 1st 3 sets were (IMHO) a boring necessity. Characters from the movies? YAWN. I have tons of SW merchandice of those guys. With all the action figures and such out there Im pretty numb to the movie characters. This hobby is WAY to expensive to collect characters I already have in anothe rformat. EU is what makes SWM desirable. Hasbro has made over 15 Yoda action figures...I want Droma!!
The coolest minis to come out of the 1st 3 sets were Bothan Spys, Mara Jade, ARC Troopers, Quinlan Vos, Durge, Asaj Ventriss and Yuzzems.
Universe was fantastic...It was hands down cooler than the previous 2 sets combined. And with CotF being 60% EU Im sure it will be even better than Universe.
Its funny how there are people who will say the oposite and really dislike any character that is not in the films.
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| | 03/21/2006 12:37 PM |
| | i have to slightly disagree with you. i think they are all cool. i dont play the game but i love setting them up in mock scenarios vs d&d mins or others and using dwarven forge setups.. i love my mace windu,yoda and vader for these reasons but i also love the new characters and i am eagerly awaiting new jedi from kotor etc. i have little use for duplicate rares or poses of the same character . i usually upgrade to my favorite chracter pose and trade away the others to friends. action fleet or similiar action figure tpes dont compare to these. the acklay etc also make great monsters for rpg purposes | |
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Count Dooku
Commander
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| | 03/21/2006 2:18 PM |
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Generally, I'm very happy about EU -minis! Movie -minis only might actually be a little boring however much I love them
Ok I agree with this. You cant really have a collection of EU minis without the major characters. Its just they dont get me excited like EU characters do. Its just like D&D. Yeah we need a Human Rogue mini but is it gonna get you excited like a Beholder? :)
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i have little use for duplicate rares or poses of the same character .
Whoa boy do I agree with this!! I dont mind costume changes like Luke as a Tatooine Farmboy and Luke as a Jedi Master. But I really dislike resculpting the same character in the same costume.
At least the 2nd Mace Windu should have been wearing his robes.
Unfortunatly I hear that Lucas wants Anakin or Vader in every single set. I REALLY dont need a 5th Darth Vader. Heres hoping we get Young Anakin from Episode 1 or something new like that.
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and some figures are poorly done - For example, Guri is nothing like the cartoon version.
Cartoon Version?? She was never in a cartoon. Are you referring to how she was drawn in a comic book? Im curious now :)
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| | 03/21/2006 3:52 PM |
| I'm with Sean-Khan on this one. Some of them I realy like(most of the Zahn stuff) others like the Vong I don't realy care for.
Having minis based only on the movies would be bad too, after a while they would start to run out of new characters and variations of previous ones. Most people don't want a single version of Jar-Jar let along several of them.
I normaly see the EU as the glue that binds the game togther as a whole. Without the addional characters to draw on from the EU, SWM could have been easily finished at set five. | |
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oldben1
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| | 03/21/2006 5:40 PM |
| I personally love all the minis, but you all make some great points. Some of the best minis were the surprise ones. Mara Jade,Dr. Evazen and Grand Admiral Thrawn were really awesome. The movie ones are great, but expected - so in a way you're right. You can't have Star Wars without the main stars though.
I thought I would enjoy the huges more, but they turned out to be disappointment, and the bigger they get the more cumbersome they feel (I'm sure most people will disagree). They do add a new angle to the game.
What I've found is the more they produce, the greedier I become. I liked the Noghri, but why no Stockli sticks? What about Defels, Joruus C'Boath and Talon Kaarde? | |
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| | 03/21/2006 7:09 PM |
| | It is strongly speculated that Joruus C'Boath will make an appearance in the upcoming set. | |
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Darthrau
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| | 03/22/2006 12:13 PM |
| | I embrace everything Star Wars(except The Holiday Special of course) and will most certainly agree with you Dooku. I'll also agree with the fact that EU is the glue that binds. Course we all know alot of people for whatever reason(maybe they've never read a book) can't stand it. What makes me laugh is when someone hates EU but in the same breathe love the KotOR minis. I find that humorous it's like they are saying no I don't read but I sure do play video games, | |
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Luisjoey
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1704 Posts
Caracas Venezuela
| | 03/22/2006 8:39 PM |
| I´m no a real lover of SW EU, but is a reality and being part of SW you learn to love some elements that makes you find them in toys or miniatures, when SWM begin i collect them just to have them and i though that the game was not good enough so the game would have 3 set with the famous characters, but as the game has taken place between fans and wargamers, the old characters don´t are enough so new miniatures are needed... and what you take? EU characters!
I love many of them, many i don´t know at all, but is something inevitable as it was with heroclix after 3 sets. | |
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AesophDarkfable
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| | 03/27/2006 6:42 AM |
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Originally posted by Darthrau
I embrace everything Star Wars(except The Holiday Special of course) and will most certainly agree with you Dooku. I'll also agree with the fact that EU is the glue that binds. Course we all know alot of people for whatever reason(maybe they've never read a book) can't stand it. What makes me laugh is when someone hates EU but in the same breathe love the KotOR minis. I find that humorous it's like they are saying no I don't read but I sure do play video games,
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| | 03/27/2006 6:03 PM |
| | I liked the Holiday special better than Dungeons and Dragons the Movie.[:p] | |
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Kithmaker
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3926 Posts
| | 03/28/2006 12:10 AM |
| | I'm sort of neutral toward the EU minis. I don't play the SW RPG, so I only get SWM for the skirmish side. If it has good skirmish abilities (Thrawn!) I like it. If it isn't so great (Bothan Spy) I don't like it. | |
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Ghengis Ska
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| | 03/28/2006 1:34 PM |
| But come now Kithmaker, Bothans are not EU, they are straight from Return of the Jedi, true we don't see one in the movies, but we didn't see the Emporer in ANH, and he was just mentioned by name (Tarkin- I've just received word that the Emperor has dissolved the council permanently.) If it's from a movie it's not EU.
But as to the question more EU please, i'm still waiting for a mini from every species in the RPG ;)
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Count Dooku
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New York
| | 03/28/2006 1:39 PM |
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Originally posted by Ghengis Ska
But come now Kithmaker, Bothans are not EU, they are straight from Return of the Jedi, true we don't see one in the movies, but we didn't see the Emporer in ANH, and he was just mentioned by name (Tarkin- I've just received word that the Emperor has dissolved the council permanently.) If it's from a movie it's not EU.
But as to the question more EU please, i'm still waiting for a mini from every species in the RPG ;)
If you use that logic then Quinlan Vos is not EU...He is mentioned in Episode 3. :) | |
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| | 03/28/2006 2:17 PM |
| Many people consider him not EU anymore (and his Starwars.com databank entry points to this it shows him as being in E1), becuase if memory serves he was "in" E1 as well (orignally the character look was based on an extra on Tat)but i think there is now a story explaining him on Tat that makes that character him, and so yup he is in EI and they were actually working on scences of him in EIII. there are pictures of an anamatic of it, but can't seem to find them right now.
"Expanded universe fans may have had their ears perk up when Obi-Wan gives the single-sentence summary of the Jedi briefing Anakin just missed. He mentions that Master Vos has moved his troops to Boz Pity. That is indeed a reference to Quinlan Vos, who was almost slated to appear in Episode III. Lucas included the comic book Jedi in the script, though his sequence was never filmed. " | |
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Luisjoey
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| | 03/28/2006 2:20 PM |
| | Yes Quinlas Voz have a cameo in tattoine when jar jar steals the dessert frog, he is in the back of the scene seated like drinking something. | |
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Ghengis Ska
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| | 03/28/2006 2:43 PM |
| Found it... had to dig through lots of Hyperspace stuff untill i found the refrence, and picture!
From
Episode III Set Diary
Jedi Missing In Action
June 27, 2005
"Quinlan Vos, of course, deserves special mention. It's rare when a character or element crosses the gulf that divides the films and the expanded universe, and Vos made it so close. His apprentice, Aayla Secura, made the transition in Episode II, and it was with a smile that I read the Episode III script, describing Quinlan Vos on Kashyyyk. Who was going to play him, I wondered. In my giddiness to spread the word, I dropped the hint that an expanded universe character was slated to be in the film. Oh, I tried to couch it with the phrase "is slated," since I knew being in the script doesn't necessarily mean being in the movie. But perhaps I should have been even more cautious, since a possibility transforms into a sure thing when read by someone with enough hope.
Quinlan Vos was never cast. Costume Archivist and Supervisor Gillian Libbert was putting together a costume folder for him -- a collection of fabric swatches and notes -- and with my help, she gathered a lot of reference imagery of Vos from his various comics appearances. She wanted to recommend Michael Mooney, the Assistant Costume Designer, to play the role. It wasn't an acting role, but did require someone in good shape who fit the look. Here's what was scripted:
The Jedi QUINLAN VOS is riding on top of a CLONE TURBO TANK. The main cannon of a second tank slowly swings to point right at him and a COUPLE OF CLONES. The cannon fires, and QUINLAN VOS and the CLONES disappear in a huge explosion.
That's some pretty cold stuff. It does explain why the turbo tank was developed in such detail, since it was to be the setting of Vos' death. The scene made it to animatic, but was obviously never completed.
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Luisjoey
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| | 03/31/2006 2:36 PM |
| | Poor Quinlan Voz it have his mystery since ep 1. | |
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Kithmaker
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| | 04/21/2006 11:20 AM |
| I'm a big Star Wars fan (two tattoos to prove it), but that is too much stretching to claim some character was "in" a movie. Bothans were -mentioned- but that doesn't make them "in" the movie.
Maybe I'm just too old school. | |
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| | 04/23/2006 7:58 PM |
| i want more EU stuff.. gimme the solo kids :D
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Count Dooku
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New York
| | 04/25/2006 1:21 PM |
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Originally posted by Kithmaker
I'm a big Star Wars fan (two tattoos to prove it), but that is too much stretching to claim some character was "in" a movie. Bothans were -mentioned- but that doesn't make them "in" the movie.
Maybe I'm just too old school.
No your not old school..EU couldnt even decide what Bothans looked like at first.
Some are depicted as camel headed (like the mini)
Some looked human..except they had long pointed ears and alot of hair that framed thier face..Sort of like the the original black&white Wolfman...Except it was long and usually blonde.
It looks like the Camel-Heads are the official look that was settled on.
But see the Shadows of the Empire comic books or look up Borsk Faylea in the original Essential Guide to SW Character to see examples of the alternate look.
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Luisjoey
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Caracas Venezuela
| | 04/25/2006 8:26 PM |
| really bothans have great differences between them, in comics you finde them more humans like hairy elves and in other they look like Goatmens or cammelmen, i guess that there should be a center for this, a bible that have things in the same way, something official.
Many things from EU makes me happy because keeps SW alive and give new stories making more complex the history.
What bother me about EU is the great differences about same things like this about bothans and more, other thing that i don´t like is weird stories like Darthmaul with cyberlegs or Ig88 taking control of the 2nd death star... that are the things that damage SW. | |
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Count Dooku
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4636 Posts
New York
| | 04/29/2006 8:11 AM |
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i guess that there should be a center for this, a bible that have things in the same way, something official.
You said it.
Unfortunatly EU stuff was written so fast that authors didnt compare notes and things get messed up.
And it doesnt help that George Lucas doesnt care about EU at all. Lightsabers were every color in the rainbow wheter you were hero or villian..And Jedi loved and had children...and masters could have more than one apprentice. All thrown out the window when the prequels came out.
Heres another example.
"The Sith have been extinct for a Millenia!" Ki Adi Mundi says that in Episode I.
One thousand years ago the sith were whipped out by the jedi. Practically the only survivor was Darth Bane. He realized the biggest flaw in the sith was that they fought amonsgt each other. So he invented the "Only 2. No more. No less" rule. From that day foward Bane's apprentice and her apprentice and so on all the way to Vader adoped the name Darth in honor of Darth Bane.
The the game Knights of the Old Republic came out for XBOX. It takes place about 4000 years ago...Yet there are sith lords named Darth. | |
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Luisjoey
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| | 04/29/2006 8:35 AM |
| Maybe i misunderstood, but a milenia is 1000 years and well that´s the time that bane placed the code where sith went into shadows, they never dissapear they just hide.
4000 Battle of Yavin sith where more commnon because the war and the conflict for struggle, but by that time where more common jedi turned to the sith. | |
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