oldben1
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 | | 05/09/2006 12:00 PM |
| Any ideas about the new Luke Skywalker? Could it be:
Luke Skywalker Rebel pilot
Luke Skywalker: Student of the Force
Luke Skywalker: Bespin warrior
Luke Skywalker: Traitor (Dark Empire comics) | |
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mordantos
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| | 05/09/2006 2:35 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by oldben1
Any ideas about the new Luke Skywalker?
Well, from the box art some are speculating that it is Luke from Jabbas Palace, though I like idea of a Bespin Luke- Course it would be rather ironic if it turned out to be more effective than our Luke Skywalker, Jedi Knight.
As long as Luke is Rebellion, well priced and works with our new Yoda I will be happy. [:D]
Oh yeah, the sculpt can't be fugly either [)] | | | |
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Luisjoey
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| | 05/09/2006 3:47 PM |
| Maybe he would come with a cape like in jabba palace! As seen in boosters.
Well the RS luke jedi knight is the one from Ep 6 RoJ, so this should have a better sculpt, maybe someday they make luke as pilot that would be excellent to combine with wedge antilles. | |
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oldben1
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| | 05/09/2006 4:34 PM |
| | What about a Luke that gives Vadar a weakness-I think a Bespin Luke that was also a pilot would be cool. The worst thing was they screwed up Luke skywalker Jedi knight. He is so weak in his black jedi outfit compared to the other jedis ,they have to make a better miniature. They can't go back in time to make a better miniature. They've already made Luke Skywalker Jedi master, so I don't know. | |
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mordantos
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| | 05/09/2006 6:22 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by oldben1
The worst thing was they screwed up Luke skywalker Jedi knight.
The developers have admitted that the Rebel Storm Jedi were overcoasted/underpowered.
quote:
Originally posted by oldben1They can't go back in time to make a better miniature.
But they could release a better one set in near the same time period... | | | |
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bigbadjon
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| | 05/09/2006 8:53 PM |
| | Agreed. I believe that the new Luke is an updated Luke, Jedi Knight. I had a Sith Marauder kill my Luke JK last week, he is just too underpowered for the new sets. A luke figure from RotJ time should be almost as powerful as the weakest Vader. | |
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Darth Crush
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| | 05/09/2006 10:10 PM |
| | all the way with u bigbadjon | |
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bigbadjon
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| | 05/09/2006 11:03 PM |
| | As far as a name I believe he will be called Luke Skywalker Jedi Guardian. | |
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Luisjoey
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| | 05/09/2006 11:37 PM |
| That sounds pretty odd... i heard one better Luke skywalker the last of the jedi but is really long XD
In RPG terms luke is not a Guardian he looks more like a consular with green lightsaber and using more the force tricks than the lightsaber. | |
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bigbadjon
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| | 05/09/2006 11:44 PM |
| According to the Revised Core Rulebook Luke's class at the end of Episode IV: Male Human Fringer 2/ Jedi Guardian 7.
Darth Vader at beginning of Episode IV: Male Human Fringer 1/ Jedi Guardian 11/ Sith Lord 6. | |
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Luisjoey
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| | 05/10/2006 12:01 AM |
| Yes i know i have the Book, but luke acts more like a jedi consular in KOTOR terms; green lightsaber, lots of mind tricks; maybe he was thinking he is the only jedi and could be both!
Anakin is a Jedi Guardian completly!
But Luke class is kinda of weird to me. | |
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bigbadjon
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| | 05/10/2006 12:29 AM |
| | I do not think that Luke acts like a consular at all. Luke fights his way out of the vast majority of his encounters. When something needs to be said his lightsaber does the talking. | |
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kizzy
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| | 05/10/2006 5:41 AM |
| I suggested this on another site.
What if luke had an ability that if he is reduced to so many hit points any opposing character with the wrd "vader" in their title comes over to your side.
This would
a) Make people wary of using vader
b) replicate the ending of rotj where vader comes back to the light side to save his son.
I think it would work extremely well and imperial players would have to think carefull about what characters to have in their squad instead of just relying on vader, jh.
Anyway what are your thoughts? | |
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kizzy
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| | 05/10/2006 7:59 AM |
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But shouldn't there also be a risk of reversal?
Sorry but what do you mean like a save or something? | |
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oldben1
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| | 05/10/2006 9:32 AM |
| I mentioned that at the top of the thread-Luke gives Vader a minus, or perhaps could spend his force points. It would be nice if they could develop a weaker Luke, but have him receive bonuses from allied force characters like Ben or Yoda to push his stats up. You RPGers would no more about this than I, but did Luke develop a lot more skill between Bespin and his second encounter with Vader?
My only worry is that the newer miniatures will simply push out the old ones -Rebel Storm is pretty weak compared to the other sets, and really it was the only set I'm interested in completing. If they just keep pumping out different versions of Luke Skywalker Jedi knight it will get pretty stupid. I think it would be better to create similar miniatures with slightly different skills. If they do make a new Luke from Jabba's palace they should give force grip or something new. They keep upping the power of all the characters they will undermind players. I'll just stick to my rebel storm if that's what happens. | |
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bigbadjon
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| | 05/10/2006 1:30 PM |
| Well, his stats say that he is a Level 2 Fringer starting out, and his has added 7 levels of Jedi Guardian at the end of RotJ. So in ESB I'd guesstimate he was a Fringer 2/ Guardian 4.
As far as a power to make him beat Vader,hmm. Well he almost loses to Vader on the Death Star, but unleashes a powerful string of attacks to defeat Vader. I'd say just give him a move that taxes his force points but dishes out some serious pain. Maybe spend a couple of force points for two additional attacks. | |
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kizzy
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| | 05/11/2006 3:29 AM |
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My only worry is that the newer miniatures will simply push out the old ones -Rebel Storm is pretty weak compared to the other sets, and really it was the only set I'm interested in completing. If they just keep pumping out different versions of Luke Skywalker Jedi knight it will get pretty stupid.
Yeah but more powerful figs also cost a lot more. it all depends on your strategy. if you want a small squad dominated by one really powerful character or a squad of a lot lesser characters. | |
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| | 05/11/2006 5:20 AM |
| | How about a version of Luke that gives any Agencent figure named vader -4 attack? Dagoba Yoda does seem to resolve the Vader vrs Luke issue somewhat, I'm stil very curious what the Luke in this set looks like. | |
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bigbadjon
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| | 05/11/2006 11:01 PM |
| | Nihilus and Maul match their boxart almost exactly. I expect Luke will match his to. | |
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oldben1
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| | 05/12/2006 9:22 AM |
| | Luke with force grip and jedi mind trick. Watch out Bib Fortuna and Gammoreans! | |
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striderlotr
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| | 05/12/2006 2:16 PM |
| | Maybe he'll be armed with a big bone and no light saber... | |
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oldben1
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| | 05/12/2006 4:37 PM |
| | That's true, Luke had no lightsaber when he entered Jabba's palace. Maybe he'll have to steal one from a Gamorrean. | |
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| | 05/13/2006 3:00 AM |
| Huh... why did he hide it in R2-D2 then?
quote:
Originally posted by oldben1
That's true, Luke had no lightsaber when he entered Jabba's palace. Maybe he'll have to steal one from a Gamorrean.
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Darthrau
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| | 05/13/2006 7:02 AM |
| Because he had planned for Jabba to do what he did. Remember at this stage Luke was awww.... more or less a Knight. According to most, (somewhere it may have been written can't remember) Luke once he had gone back to Tattooine and stayed at Ben's place. He had not only found the scematics to make a new Lightsaber(along with a crystal), but also found lessons from Ben's training.(again this is way prior to the prequels) But it's always worked for me. Anywhoo back to your question Luke's become stronger in the Force and may have "seen" what Jabba would do. Though it didn't look like he excpected to possibly become Rancor food.:)
As for the saber being out on the booster. Let's not forget Chewie was on the AT-ST. We could always get Luke Skywalker Savior of the Force.*shruggs* Basically thats what he was once Vader had converted and the Palps killed. On a side note I always excpected another movie after Jedi. I never thought that Palps was dead. I missed Dark Empire and actually didn't start read Star Wars comics until the Old Republic stuff. | |
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bigbadjon
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| | 05/13/2006 3:38 PM |
| | Agreed Darthrau, I believe Luke has a lightsaber on the box just for flavor. If Luke found printed lesson it woud have been in "Shadows of the Empire". I know he built his lightsaber in that one but cannot recall how he trained. Oh, if you have not read "Shadows" drop everything and do so, it is one of the better novels. | |
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Orion72
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| | 05/13/2006 11:59 PM |
| Just for the sake of aesthetics, I'd rather have a Bespin Luke. Come to think of it, throw in Bespin Leia with the pink dress and Hoth Han in blue parka.
So close to replicating my Kenner SW figs collection! | | | |
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kizzy
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| | 05/15/2006 8:29 AM |
| | I know wizards would probably never make it but wouldn't it be so cool if we got a stormtrooper diguise luke and han. | |
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mordantos
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| | 05/15/2006 2:07 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by kizzy
I know wizards would probably never make it but wouldn't it be so cool if we got a stormtrooper diguise luke and han.
A common and easy mod- cut off some Stormtrooper helmets, glue heads (either actual Han/Luke or look-a-likes from Heroclix etc.) | | | |
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| | 05/16/2006 12:48 AM |
| | There's some sort of special edition Lucas as a Stormtrooper figure being offered now. It's some sort of send away that requires proof of purchases from vintage figures.[xx(] | |
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