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06/09/2006 2:15 PM  
I dont have the $$ to buy cases of CotF so Im going to pick up a booster every week or so and thats it.

I purchaced my first and only booster today and hoped Id get a VR.

Of all the R and RV on CotF...Wich would be the Lamest and Least Cool mini?

Just trying to see how my luck rates. :)

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06/09/2006 3:11 PM  
I would say either the droid, Mas Amedda, or Amidala.


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06/09/2006 5:04 PM  
At least the Droid is a VR....I got Mas Amedda.

I KNEW IT!! [:(!]

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06/09/2006 8:44 PM  
Mas Amedda has a nice ability and may be tradable to someone who isn't collecting the whole set. HK is already selling for upwards of 20 couple bucks. To be honest there isn't any single one I'd be super mad about. I'm just glad in my case I got my Atgar and E-web.

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06/09/2006 10:27 PM  
I was talking about the Octuptarra Droid. The HK is pretty cool.


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06/09/2006 10:38 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by Count Dooku

At least the Droid is a VR....I got Mas Amedda.

I KNEW IT!! [:(!]



He also makes a Nice Tiefling or a Chaond in D&D

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06/10/2006 12:47 AM  
Hehe I could agrue a good case for the Octuptarra also. Though I'll admit I'm biased and always will be(to anything Star Wars). :) The Oct has a nice Triple attack ability and at +7/20(at 31 pnts) throw in a Battle droid Officer and your banging out 3 attacks at +11 for 20 dmg.

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06/10/2006 1:09 AM  
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He [Mas Amedda] also makes a Nice Tiefling or a Chaond in D&D


Yup. Pity he's a rare [:(] I could have used a couple for D&D Tieflings if he'd been uncommon.

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06/10/2006 1:35 AM  
Well rares do get somewhat de-vauled by the VR system, I'd wait a month and then see what the going price online is.

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quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth
He [Mas Amedda] also makes a Nice Tiefling or a Chaond in D&D


Yup. Pity he's a rare [:(] I could have used a couple for D&D Tieflings if he'd been uncommon.


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06/10/2006 8:33 AM  
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quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth
He [Mas Amedda] also makes a Nice Tiefling or a Chaond in D&D


Yup. Pity he's a rare [:(] I could have used a couple for D&D Tieflings if he'd been uncommon.



Looks like Count Dooku would be willing to sell you one.


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06/10/2006 10:20 AM  
Count I know your pain. When I was buying ROTS boosters my most common pull was the medical droid. In CS though it was Grievous so I guess my lucks not all bad.

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06/10/2006 12:26 PM  
Well I bought 6 boosters and got 2 VRs, but proably the lamest 2: HK47 and Ulic Qel Droma.

As for the rares pretty happy with the ones i got. Windu,Horn, hoth cannon, 2 clone commanders. I got extra clone commander from the store owner who opened a box to see what they were like :)

I agree Mas Amedda is pretty close to crappiest rare :)

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06/10/2006 5:01 PM  
OMG!!!!!!! HK-47 and mas amedda are really good!! Mas Amada is probably the best vlue for points models in SWM and hk is really good with seps.

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06/10/2006 7:19 PM  
I am going to say the Atgar with the Hoth Trooper. It is cool looking and everything, but sucks in skirmish play. I love the OCTUPTARRA DROID!!!! I haven't gotten mas yet, but he is good in the skirmish game.

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06/12/2006 6:10 AM  
I cant believe you guys Ullic stinks now yes buut coem next set hes goign to be absolutely bad@%$ and even still hes a tank with 23 defense that aint bad folks

I havent taken a good enough look at the set to be able to say which are bad rares/very rares however fro mwhat ive seen the luke i weak in comparison to universe luke (when you think about it luke has the stats of like republc commander sev (well at least the fact that they are both +9 attack so cant hit much of the big guys worth crap


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06/12/2006 11:17 AM  
Ulek has a great commander effect when bounty hunters are in his warband....The next set is called "Bounty Hunters"...You do the math....He will rule in a few months.

Anyway I dont want to part with Mas Anedda...I still want one of each...I would just hope Id get better ones first. The sooner you get a mini the more likely you will get it as a dupe.

Id rather have a dupe of Darth Maul or Darth Sideous as a rare than Mas Amedda...Easier to trade y'know?

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06/12/2006 11:33 AM  
Yeah i wasnt thinking playability as much as tradeability.


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06/12/2006 12:29 PM  
I'm looking for a Mas Amedda, plus some sith mutants if you want to rid yourself of a 'lame' rare.

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06/12/2006 2:23 PM  
If you mean lame as "Why didn't they do more playtesting before releasing this mini, because as is, it is too good?", then yes, Mas Amedda is lame.

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06/12/2006 3:24 PM  
i got a mas amedda and two sith mutants, username

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06/12/2006 3:28 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by boba_fouts

If you mean lame as "Why didn't they do more playtesting before releasing this mini, because as is, it is too good?", then yes, Mas Amedda is lame.


Nah...When I initially typed up the thread it was more of a "Why didnt I get a more popular character that people seem to drool over such as anyone named Darth".

So yeah I feel much better knowing hes good in skirmish and he has good DDM crossover potential as anarchdevil or something. :)

Plus the wife got me 4 boosters yesterday as a surprise (so Im up to 5 boosters) and 2 of the 4 were VR :)

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06/12/2006 5:01 PM  
quote:
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i got a mas amedda and two sith mutants, username



Got a trade thread?

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06/12/2006 10:23 PM  
I will play a release tournament this saturday and i know that i will be fighting Yoda-Exar Kun and Darth Bane - Quigon Warbands with my bare Amidala and mas amedda!

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06/13/2006 1:01 AM  
quote:
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I'm looking for a Mas Amedda, plus some sith mutants if you want to rid yourself of a 'lame' rare.

[)]



Got the mutants now.

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06/13/2006 7:49 PM  
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Got the mutants now


damn[:(]

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06/13/2006 9:27 PM  
Mas Amedda is actually an excelent rare. Making Commander abilities that were meant for within "6" now are accross the entire board.

General Windu being able to give triple attack to a Boba Fett, Anakin, and double attack to a Aaura Sing without the Gonk Power Droid, on the other side of the board. Since 150 now is going to be the "standard" DCI army, you are really looking at some interesting effects.

Plus the guy can be in Imperial squads as well, and he only costs 8 points. It will be interesting to see how this guy changes the game.


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06/14/2006 1:34 AM  
well jsut imagine mas amedda mon mothma and windu together everryione when they die gets a final attack at +10 dmg and everyone gets an extra attack period

Imagine the jedi armies that will appear, or just think of what the new republic commandos can do with that extra attack

Nope im sorry but Mas amedda is totally underrated hes amazing


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06/14/2006 3:52 PM  
Just to be clear, my labeling Mas Amedda as a bad rare was based simply on sculpt and coolness of character since I don't play the game (maybe I will someday).

So for playability who would you rank as the lamest rare?


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06/21/2006 12:01 PM  
for playability... I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say Jacen Solo

Force Ascetic... taking damage whenever another force user bites it... a "one shot" force power that is difficult to pull off right.. and the ability to bring in LEIA?

Now RPG and character wise he's great, a fig that reflects him in the NJO... but for skirmish??? I'm leaving this literal "momma's boy" in the case...

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06/22/2006 2:28 AM  
Otoparraputa Droid! i hate it [:(]

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06/22/2006 4:41 PM  
Preface: I don't SWM skirmish on a regular basis...I'm also not an expanded universe fanboy...

Lamest rare skirmish-wise is definitely NOT Mas Amedda. He has all the earmarks of the SWM equivalent of the Orcish Wardummer [:o]

Toss him in a room, lock the door (a couple of droids have that ability) and throw away the keys [:D]

Additionally, he can work quite well for a Tiefling or Archdevil in D&D [:D]

Lamest rare = Jacen Solo. My SWM friends that skirmish think he's completely worthless. My SWRPG group also thinks he's about worthless for RPG. It's a lose-lose situation [:D]

Best rare = HK-47 (how can you argue with a saddisticly violent assassin droid that calls non-droids 'meatbag'[?]).

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06/23/2006 5:55 AM  
Mother's boy does have some potential in the right squad.... but so far he's my least favorite VR I've pulled.

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06/24/2006 4:22 PM  
quote:
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Lamest rare skirmish-wise is definitely NOT Mas Amedda. He has all the earmarks of the SWM equivalent of the Orcish Wardummer [:o]

Additionally, he can work quite well for a Tiefling or Archdevil in D&D [:D]

Lamest rare = Jacen Solo. My SWM friends that skirmish think he's completely worthless. My SWRPG group also thinks he's about worthless for RPG. It's a lose-lose situation [:D]

Best rare = HK-47 (how can you argue with a saddisticly violent assassin droid that calls non-droids 'meatbag'[?]).




Glad to hear Mas Amedda is valued! I pulled two identical cases and one extra booster so I got three of him - which means I have two listed for trade in my SWM Trade Thread.

I pulled two HK-47's too, so if someone's interested, check my trade thread.

Unfortunately, I rarely get to SWM skirmish. Jacen may not be great for skirmish, but standard young Jedi are always good for RPG. From my price searches (not unexpectedly) the Sith VRs seem to be the most sought after.

Based just appearance, I would have to say that the Clone Commanders were the lamest. My two Bacara's look sort of bland (hmmmm, perhaps I shouldn't mention it since I am trying to unload one). Although I don't have a Gree, his stance looks a little silly to me (still, the collector in me wants one). So I would nominate Bacara and Gree as the two lamest rares.




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06/25/2006 7:24 PM  
dark malak -hes got the body of a bike racer and beetle juice shrunk his head? like him as a character/stats but scuplt is bad for a rare/vr.

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06/26/2006 4:47 PM  
Oh common it's Darth Underbite. [:)]

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dark malak -hes got the body of a bike racer and beetle juice shrunk his head? like him as a character/stats but scuplt is bad for a rare/vr.


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06/26/2006 5:04 PM  
I would have to say that Vader is the lamest VR in the set. He has so-so stats, and his sculpt is average. Now compare to Maul and there is no way he should be a VR.


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06/26/2006 6:52 PM  
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I would have to say that Vader is the lamest VR in the set.
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quote:
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Now compare to Maul

Okay, lets.
Stats
Maul has 10 more HP while Vader has 2 more Defense and 2 more Attack. That means 80% of the time Vader is going to hit Maul, while Maul will only hit Vader 60% of the time. Clear winner here is Vader.

Special Abilities
Okay, Maul has Quad Attack to Vaders Double Attack, as well as Deadly Attack. So Maul has it better here...but rarely will a figure stay next to Maul and allow him to get his Quad off- Particularly Imperials, who are likely to have a Probe or Thrawn. And Maul is in a faction that has no initive control.

Force Powers
Vader has 25% more force points, is able to attack at range, and has block- so when Maul finally does hit, Vader has a good chance to negate it. Yes, Lightsaber Assualt is nice, but Maul can only do that or Sith Rage 3 times.

I am not saying Maul is a bad figure, but I certainly think Vader 'stacks up' to him- and we haven't mentioned that Vader is cheaper and has a CE that can really powerup the rest of his squad.

Lamest? Not hardly.

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06/26/2006 7:26 PM  
I rather like the new Vader myself. His CFX is a nice varient on his stater set predecessor. The sculpt does look much nicer in person. I know the camera is suposed to add ten pounds to you, but the gallery pictures make him look skinnier than he actually is.

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06/29/2006 4:13 PM  
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Particularly Imperials, who are likely to have a Probe or Thrawn. And Maul is in a faction that has no initive control.


I thought you were comparing vader to maul, not empire to seperatists. I like vader's sculpt better than maul's, just because maul looks a little fragile there. I would say that I would be much happier getting maul then vader. I would say he is all around better. I also think that neither of them are the lamest rare, I think it's got to be Luke.

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06/29/2006 7:15 PM  
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Particularly Imperials, who are likely to have a Probe or Thrawn. And Maul is in a faction that has no initive control.


I thought you were comparing vader to maul, not empire to seperatists.
I was, but you don't compare a figure in a vacuum. To do so would be ignorant.
Maul needs to win initative to get his quad attack off. It is significant that he is in a faction that doesn't help him with that.
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