NihilusThrawn
Skirmisher
36 Posts
    
 | | 07/24/2006 7:23 PM |
| True believers, I must ask for your opinion of this Separatist squad I constructed.
1xGeneral Grievous Supreme Commander
1xGeonosian Overseer
1xSuper Battle Droid Commander
2xSuper Battle Droids
Total points:98
Please comment if you wish. | |
But...it was so artistically done-Grand Admiral Thrawn's last dying words
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Mister_Darren
Sneak
111 Posts
| | 07/24/2006 8:02 PM |
| My commentary is that...
1) you have too many commanders and too few followers
2) there are redundant commander effects (GGSC and GO are the same CE, so only one really works)
3) GGSC is not a good investment in this build... he eats up way too many points for the job you expect him to do, and in 100 points, total squad synergy is key
may I suggest...
Battle Droid Officer
Geonosian Overseer
Super Battle Droid Commander
Super Battle Droid x5
Ungnaught Demolitionist x2
you still get double attacking SBDs with Careful Shot and Double Attack and a nice bonus from the BDO... plus you have some door opening midgets and a much better activation count
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NihilusThrawn
Skirmisher
36 Posts
| | 07/25/2006 1:25 PM |
| | The problem with your suggestions, gratifying they may be, is that I want a General Grievous. That's my entire reasoning of even building the Separatist squad. | |
But...it was so artistically done-Grand Admiral Thrawn's last dying words
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Luisjoey
Underboss
1703 Posts
Caracas Venezuela
| | 07/25/2006 2:04 PM |
| | General Grievious is really nice because he is a commander and can shoot! but Grievious supreme commander is really good too! | |
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Mister_Darren
Sneak
111 Posts
| | 07/25/2006 2:22 PM |
| Sorry if I came off wrong there...
Yeah, GGSC can work in 100 point... again I must apologize if my tone came out all wrong... I was just concerned that you were trying to do too much with him... but I digress...
how to build a squad around GGSC in 100 points that really shows off how great a focal point he can be...
Well he's got a great commander effect... no need for the overseer with the much more durable general sround! So let's try giving him quality shooters as followers and some support to keep him fighting when the enemy gets up close!
General Grievous Supreme Commander
Crab Droid x2
r5 astro droid
ugnaught demo
or if you want more shooters you could also...
General Grievous Supreme Commander
Super Battle Droid x4
Battle Droid Officer
and 8 pts of droids, ugnaughts or even an r5
I hope I have been more helpful this time! | |
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NihilusThrawn
Skirmisher
36 Posts
| | 07/25/2006 2:28 PM |
| | Oh, not at all. I was merely trying to state my liking of General Grievous. I did not mean to sound so exasperated. Sorry for any inconvience on my part. | |
But...it was so artistically done-Grand Admiral Thrawn's last dying words
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MikeyChraal
Warrior
218 Posts
Manchester, England
| | 07/25/2006 2:35 PM |
| | Or you could try greivous supreme commander in 200 pt squad with loads of droids etc | |
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Mister_Darren
Sneak
111 Posts
| | 07/25/2006 2:45 PM |
| Woot! 100th post!
Anyhoo... as is the case for most SWM, whatever you can do in 100 points you can do EVEN MORE OF in 200! But keeping the General in 100 may be an unexpected move and throw your opponents off. Generally I find that 100 points in my area degenerates into HAL or Vader/Bane and the dancing ugnaughts... 'grats on using other strategies!
I think it is far more satisfying to see someone build a squad with I dunno synergy and a balance of point allocation...
Overall I think you've got a great handle on how figs should work together and I wish you nothing but success against people who play the "L337 Squad of the Week"... Do you play competitively, or more with your friends? (or both?[:)]) | |
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mordantos
Underboss
1210 Posts
| | 07/25/2006 7:25 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Mister_Darren
General Grievous Supreme Commander
Crab Droid x2
r5 astro droid
ugnaught demo
I like it.
And if taken to 200, Wat can come in so you have better repair and Droid Mark.
Maybe a Viper... | | | |
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boba_fouts
Sneak
99 Posts
| | 07/25/2006 11:14 PM |
| This 150 army worked well for me.
General Grevious
Crab Droid X 3
Battle Droid Officer
Super Battle Droid Commander
Security Battle Droid
Bodyguard Droid
Many think that this Grevious is obsolete, but with this army, I'm glad to have given up the +4 Attack to my Crab Droids in exchange for being able to shoot twice at +12 Attack for 20 Damage each. The Crab Droid already have a high attack due to other effects, so why not use this Grevious? And 80 Hit Points is really good too. | |
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Mister_Darren
Sneak
111 Posts
| | 07/26/2006 2:28 PM |
| | Nice looking squad! Was the Security Battle Droid a better coice then 2 basic Battle Droids? What squads did you face with it? | |
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boba_fouts
Sneak
99 Posts
| | 07/26/2006 4:09 PM |
| I like that the Security Battle Droid has Cunning Attack and a slightly higher base Attack value. Combining Fire with 2 Battle Droids has about the same Attack value, but doesn't hit for 20 Damage against unactivated minis.
So far, I've only faced a Vong squad (Thud Bug didn't work so well against me), and a General Windu/Aurra Sing/Sev/R2-D2 squad that wasn't played as well as it could've been play the guy. I'll try this squad against a few more things in another couple of weeks. | |
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Mister_Darren
Sneak
111 Posts
| | 07/26/2006 4:54 PM |
| Good call then. All you'd get for maybe one round is an extra activation which really wouldn't be worth saving to the last anyway. I'll have to take another look at the Security Battle Droid.
That Republic squad you faced sounded like ugh! I think he was onto some good ideas, but man he was really all over the place!
Looking forward to hearing about your (or anybody's for that matter) trials and tribulations with what I consider to be the best incarnation for the General. | |
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CaptainAntilies
Skirmisher
19 Posts
| | 07/26/2006 5:01 PM |
| | I find it difficult to make a good 100pt army, probably because i'm too used to 200pts. If you check DCI rankings and ratings on the last page, you will see my name at the bottom! know why? because ~I have recently started playing theamed teams. I think maybe i should start trying to win instead of having teams from some of my favorite scenes. | |
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NihilusThrawn
Skirmisher
36 Posts
| | 07/26/2006 8:58 PM |
| | I've only played 100pt because the area I play around only permits it, I believe. I would also like to ask about Thrawn, even though he isn't centered around the topic. What kind of squad would one create with Thrawn with 150-200pts? | |
But...it was so artistically done-Grand Admiral Thrawn's last dying words
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Fun Guy from Yuggoth
Cthulhufnord
Warlord
10557 Posts
Umass Amherst Baby!
| | 07/27/2006 2:42 AM |
| How about this squad?
Rots Darth Vader
Grand Admiral Thrawn
Imperial Officer
Mas Amedda
Medical Droid
Nightsister Sith Witch
Rancor
Stormtrooper
Stormtrooper
Stormtrooper Commander
Ugnaught Demolitionist
Ugnaught Demolitionist
199 points | |
Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
ash nazg thrakatulûk, agh burzum-ishi krimpatul | |
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NihilusThrawn
Skirmisher
36 Posts
| | 07/27/2006 9:11 AM |
| | Have you used the squad before? Do you know of its effectiveness? | |
But...it was so artistically done-Grand Admiral Thrawn's last dying words
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CaptainAntilies
Skirmisher
19 Posts
| | 07/27/2006 12:41 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Cthulhufnord
How about this squad?
Rots Darth Vader
Grand Admiral Thrawn
Imperial Officer
Mas Amedda
Medical Droid
Nightsister Sith Witch
Rancor
Stormtrooper
Stormtrooper
Stormtrooper Commander
Ugnaught Demolitionist
Ugnaught Demolitionist
199 points
although i don't know the stats for this team, it seems that 3 figures (maybe 4) are relyed on too mutch, vader, Rancor and the night sister witch (maybe thrawn for the commander effect) | |
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NihilusThrawn
Skirmisher
36 Posts
| | 07/27/2006 1:42 PM |
| | What would you suggest? | |
But...it was so artistically done-Grand Admiral Thrawn's last dying words
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boba_fouts
Sneak
99 Posts
| | 07/27/2006 2:39 PM |
| Get rid of Vader, and some of the support pieces to make room for a Reek, a Medical Droid, and some more Sithwitches.
Charge the Reek, with a witch following, into battle. 200 Hit Points sucks up a lot of damage, so he'll make it across the map just fine. Just before the Reek dies, use Grand Admiral Thrawn to swap him with the Rancor. Let Rancor do his thing while you heal the Reek, then swap again as necessary. | |
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Fun Guy from Yuggoth
Cthulhufnord
Warlord
10557 Posts
Umass Amherst Baby!
| | 07/27/2006 3:18 PM |
| No it's something I threw together mostly for fun. It realy takes atvantage of Mas Amedda booming voice ability. Looking at Thrawn's CFX I do recomend switching Vader out for a Reek, I was originaly counting on switching Vader and the Rancor. Ζ)]
quote:
Originally posted by NihilusThrawn
Have you used the squad before? Do you know of its effectiveness?
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Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
ash nazg thrakatulûk, agh burzum-ishi krimpatul | |
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CaptainAntilies
Skirmisher
19 Posts
| | 07/27/2006 4:31 PM |
| | I've started having an amazing loosing streak i've decided to take all of my minis and create teams, I am then going to have a tournament with the teams, which ever team wins will then be challenged by other teams i will make, eventually if this team defeats them all then they will progress onto the tournements at my lgs. so far i have a republic and imperial team that are doing quite well so far but i think it will be interesting to see what happens when they eventually face off. | |
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NihilusThrawn
Skirmisher
36 Posts
| | 07/28/2006 10:31 AM |
| | What about using Thrawn's Noghri in his squad? | |
But...it was so artistically done-Grand Admiral Thrawn's last dying words
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CaptainAntilies
Skirmisher
19 Posts
| | 07/31/2006 5:07 PM |
| | Don't have Noghiri | |
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NihilusThrawn
Skirmisher
36 Posts
| | 07/31/2006 7:08 PM |
| From mini manager, I found Noghri ineffective with Thrawn, seeing how more room can be used for Sith witches. Here is what I think the Thrawn build should look like.
Grand Admiral Thrawn
3xNexu
2xNightsister Sith witch
1xMas Amedda
2xMedic Droid
1xGran Raider
Total points/150
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But...it was so artistically done-Grand Admiral Thrawn's last dying words
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