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05/20/2006 3:29 AM  
I've been wanting the Bare-chested tribal tatoo Anakin from the micro series for a while now. He could be a Republic Jedi knight with Force Grip, maybe Sith Rage and perhaps even Order 66.

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05/20/2006 7:46 AM  
where did u get that picture,luisjoey

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05/20/2006 8:01 PM  
Well that was a sculpture i saw in my hobbie store long time ago, i look for it on internet to show that amazing pose! that could be an excellent vader for mini, with a nice cfx, because vader is like saying "FEEL MY ANGER!!!!"

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05/21/2006 2:13 AM  
Well they could always release the badly damaged Rebellion Vader, his special ability could be "Failed life support" lose 10 hit points each time this character activates.

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05/21/2006 5:31 AM  
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Well they could always release the badly damaged Rebellion Vader, his special ability could be "Failed life support" lose 10 hit points each time this character activates.


Unlikely, except maybe after several more sets [:p] Wouldn't that also be Anakin rather than Vader? I haven't thought of this before but I'd say that at the moment that Vader broke Emperor's grip on him and threw him to the shaft he stopped being Vader and became Anakin again.

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05/21/2006 5:37 AM  
Btw, what do you think of Snowtrooper w/E-Web? It's perfect for Hoth/other arctic scenarios, but regular stormtrooper would have fit everywhere.

Well, maybe we're getting one regular e-web trooper some day.

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05/21/2006 6:52 AM  
Massive update from Rocket Ranger(again he says these are fact). Darth Nihlist is VR, Jaina VR, Queen Amidala R, and added OR Commander UC. Updating the list now.

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05/21/2006 8:06 AM  
Updated list by rarity from your list:

VR
1/60(VR) Bastila
10/60(VR) Darth Bane
12/60(VR) Darth Nihilus
13/60(VR) Exar Kun
19/60(VR) Ulic Qel-Droma
45/60(VR) Yoda of Dagobah
49/60(VR) Darth Vader, Champion of the Force
54/60(VR) Jaina Solo
57/60(VR) HK-47

VR or R
11/60 Darth Malak
30/60 Mas Amedda
44/60 Jedi Luke Skywalker

R
20/60(R) Barris Offee
21/60(R) Clone Commander Bacara
22/60(R) Clone Commander Cody
23/60(R) Clone Commander Gree
26/60(R) General Windu Pnt HP Def +() SA; FP; CE;
31/60(R) Queen Amidala
32/60(R) Qui-Gon Jin Jedi Master
40/60(R) Darth Maul
43/60(R) Rebel Hoth Trooper w/Atgar
51/60 (R) Hoth Trooper w/E-Web
52/60(R) Corran Horn

UC
5/60(UC) Old Republic Commander
8/60(UC) Dark Jedi Master
14/60 (UC) Massassi Sith Mutant
18/60 (UC)Sith Trooper Commander
28/60(UC) Jedi Weapon Master
33/60(UC) Republic Commando Boss
48/60(UC) Dark Trooper Phase II

C
6/60(C) Old Republic Soldier
16/60(C) Sith Trooper
17/60(C) Sith Trooper
29/60(C) Kashyyyk Trooper
34/60(C) Republic Commando Fixer
35/60(C) Republic Commando Scorch
36/60(C) Republic Commando Sev
46/60(C) Coruscant Guard 15
47/60(C) Dark Trooper Phase I
50/60(C) Sand Trooper
55/60(C) Arcona Smuggler
59/60(C) Ugnaught Demolishionist
60/60(C) Varactyl Wrangler

Assuming that we're having 12VR, 16R, 16UC, 16C:

5 rares still unknown/unsure
3 VR's still unknown/unsure
9 uc's still unknown
3 commons still unknown.

A small note - distribution is this time a little different than it has ever been before - this is the first regular set without fixed Starter rares.

Btw, how do we know the location and amount of separatists? There's many empty slots around there.
over half of what we don't know are uncommons.
I bet that old republic will get at least 2 more Jedi, maybe all 3. Do I remember hearing rumours of a Miraluka? (I don't remember the name of the character in Kotor2). Nomi Sunrider seems unlikely (Bastila already has battle meditation). Some old Jedi/Sith comic masters (Arca, thon) - someone strong to resist the Sith anyway. Juhani and Carth Onasi would be potential minis too.

Mission would fit into Fringes, she would be nice surprise! :) Maybe even new Boba Fett?

Other guesses - Sith grenadier, techno union non-unique, IG Lancer or Crab Droid?

I hope we're not getting more regular troopers (battle droids, stormies, everything we already have in masses) this time [:p]

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05/21/2006 8:36 AM  
For the Seps droid wise we really only need the Crab Droid and the Spider Droid(tall thing where Mundi was). Nomi was indeed shot down by the Lucas team because of Bastila. I'd like to see some comic inspired minis but it seems Lucas is focusing on video game names.

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05/21/2006 9:24 AM  
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'd like to see some comic inspired minis but it seems Lucas is focusing on video game names.


Me too, but that's quite understandable as Video games are huge business and Star Wars comics pretty marginal.

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05/21/2006 9:40 PM  
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I bet that old republic will get at least 2 more Jedi, maybe all 3. Do I remember hearing rumours of a Miraluka? (I don't remember the name of the character in Kotor2).


Her name is Visas Marr! and i love her!

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05/21/2006 11:16 PM  
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I bet that old republic will get at least 2 more Jedi, maybe all 3. Do I remember hearing rumours of a Miraluka? (I don't remember the name of the character in Kotor2).


Her name is Visas Marr! and i love her!



Visa's would be cool, another possibility is Jerec from Dark Forces.

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05/22/2006 1:08 AM  
Jerec is nice, but i see him as a VERY RARE guy, well there is still chance to get him in this setting this let open the option to get the other jedis (Yun, Boc, Dessan, Tavion) from the video game.

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05/22/2006 2:09 AM  
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Her name is Visas Marr! and i love her!


That's the one! Now I remember - her image was used in the CotF set presentation slideshow... Promising? [:)]

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05/22/2006 2:28 AM  
Making all KOTOR minis VR is highly unfair (albeit a good marketing move). How much do SW VRs generally go for on eBay?

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05/22/2006 3:25 AM  
Over on starwarsminigames they were saying there was going to be a Darth bandon, Malak's apprentice or something. I think there is a good chance this is true as he would fit perfectly into the empty slot at number 9.

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05/22/2006 7:21 AM  
VR's go from 12 to 25 when the set is new, and probably 6 to 50 when it's not--you've got Tion Medon and Boba Fett sharing the slot, oh yeah, and Dr. whomever. . . so yeah, go fig. There's a lot of variation. Safe to say, that if you want it, it'll go for 20 bucks.

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05/22/2006 9:46 AM  
Some new hints...
http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=641343

Some hints don't say anything to me but there were many good guesses in the thread:

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05/22/2006 12:21 PM  
The Rebel is indeed Luke because there are no more Rebels. The Flu thing I'm lost on though.

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05/22/2006 2:50 PM  
Anybody know who the video game charcter is that kidzworld will preview this week? I thought about it and can't come up with a good guess. He is number 2 in the set so I guess he is old republic and it says hes a man. Force-entric? Hmmm. Maybe Master Vrook.

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05/22/2006 3:06 PM  
any pictures out there of a gundark? does this rumor of one seem solid?

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05/22/2006 4:15 PM  
It's allready out, it is the Jedi Counsular, from the RPG and Kotor games, pretty generic figure and a GREAT figure for the RPG, from something written on the page am guessing we will be seeing the other two Kotor figures of a Jedi Sent and Guard... which should just about round out the Old Republic, darn the set is almost done, but eh there is what only 3 weeks left anyway :) :) :)


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05/22/2006 4:20 PM  
Yes, its just what I wanted. I was tired of seeing unique Jedi. With the weapon master it looks like we got some good player character jedi.

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05/22/2006 8:00 PM  
A very nice looking Generic Jedi. His grip on the 'saber is quite interesting, I just wish I could see his other hand a little better.

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05/22/2006 9:08 PM  
Nice miniature, at first sight i though it was a new obi wan kenobi (young version) but now for relief is a nice complementary uncommon.

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05/23/2006 1:08 AM  
I hope they would have made some generic characters era-independent - It would be great if we'd get a ruling making unnamed Jedi/Sith to be able to fit several factions!

Anyway, this seems to make great rpg -character even if I don't collect old era minis.

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05/23/2006 3:30 PM  
scarry thing is give him a gotee and he looks like me.. :)
i think i found my mini [:)]

Just hoping one of the next (that is if we get the guard and sent) will be a different species, or female.

We have quit a few male human "Jedi"; Jedi Weapon master, Obi wan, (3 versions i think), Luke 2 versions, Anakin 2-3, Mace 3 versions, Darth Tyranus 2 versions, Kyle Katarn, Jedi Knight, 2 Qui-Gon Jinn, Quinlan Vos, Jedi Con, 20 Then add in Corran Horn, the possible Jacen, another Luke, Dark Jedi Master, Darth Bane, Darth Malak, Exar Kun, Ulic Qel-Droma, 28 Male humman jedi, darn. that's alot. We have a deent mix of species but could use some more.



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05/23/2006 3:55 PM  
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I don't understand why Lucas wants Ani/Vader in every set.
Darth Vader is Iconic to Star Wars. Lucas has stated many times that the whole six episdoes are Anakin/Vader's story.





True, But he used to say Pre-1990 or so, it was the Droids (R2-D2 and C-3PO ) Story and there would be Nine Episodes All Together...He Always stated in interviews and such it was really a large story as seen by the droids...He then later changed it to Vader's Story....

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05/24/2006 12:15 AM  
Full set list is up and confirmed by 2 different people. Some things you may or may not notice are General Windu 72 pnts, Corran Horn 39 pnts, and the Solo twins 25 pnts. I'm excited about the set but wish Lucas' people would've allowed more OR uniques 1 is not enough. Again if untampered we wouldn't have to endure so many Clone Troopers either but who am I to second guess the boss. There are indeed some surprises 2 Champions of the Sith(wierd) and the all too long Darth Sidious,Dark Lord of the Sith(talk about eatin' up card space). R5 and the Gundark and awesome surprises as are the Crab and Octuptarra Droids. A Jedi Guardian for both the Republic and Old Republic is strange but gives diversity for the roleplayer. I would also yell about the Solo's(especially Jacen) being 25 pnts if it wasn't for the JWM at 26. As I said all in all I'm happy, yes I could've been happier but alas that isn't meant to be.

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05/24/2006 1:31 AM  
Great work, thanks for compiling and updating the list, Darthau! [:D]

Woohoo, Crab droid! RARE SIDIOUS! And other rare -versions of previous Very Rares, Coooooool.... I'm sold! [:D] [:D] [:D] Lots of Jedi, I might even get into collecting some old era [:o] Especially if I get Bastila... It's strange that she's the only OR unique we get, but I bet her Battle Meditation makes those non-uniques rock!

And astromech! (I love droids [:D] )

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05/24/2006 9:01 AM  
Thank you I thought it would be a pain but I guess if it's something you enjoy it's easier. Again I will thank Rocket Ranger on the Wizards board who shared his "inside information" with the rest of us.

After sleeping on it I like the set a little more if that's even possible. Yea the Clone heavy piece still kind of stinks but whatever. I was worried see the whole list would "hurt" the set for me. I gotta say it has me wanting to see all the stats. I will continue updating the list with stats until release and may even finish it up upon release if people want that.

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05/24/2006 9:16 AM  
Another thought maybe it's because I "eat up" everything Star Wars but this set doesn't "feel" EU heavy. Of course the OR and Sith are all EU, but again I don't feel like they are out there type EU like the Viper Droid. Truely only 3 of 6 OR are EU, 15 of 19 Sith (and thats stretching it),3 of 6 Imps(again I think most except Dark Troopers), and 3 of 3 NR(as a repeat I don't feel that way but some do). I don't count the Gubdark because though never seen it's mentioned many times. Also I didn't count Bane as he was indeed made by Mr.Lucas. If you would argue Bane is EU then so would be Plageous(sp?). 23 of 60 doesn't seem all that bad. I mean it keeps the game going and the choices were all preety good.

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05/24/2006 9:16 AM  
So where are the madolarians???

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05/24/2006 9:25 AM  
Yea it's wierd having a CFX for them but non in the set. We know a mando on Basilik with be in BH. My guess since BH is fringe heavy it may be Mandolarian heavy aswell. Not that that would hurt my feelings.

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05/24/2006 9:26 AM  
Thanks for the list! Some of those look interesting.

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05/24/2006 1:10 PM  
List looks pretty balanced.

Sith and Old Republic look like viable factions right out of the gate (unlike Vong/New Republic). Very interesting with all the generic Jedi for the Old Republic. And it should be interesting to see how the Jedi Guardians have evolved (or devolved) between Old Republic and Republic (besides going Rodian.)

I can't wait to see the new Rebel Luke- hopefully this will be the one we are waiting for. It is disheartening that all the Rebel Pieces are Rare or Very Rare.

The E-Web as a Rare is not a surprise but I still don't like it. Looks like we have another CS Detroyer Droid chase on our hands...

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05/24/2006 1:40 PM  
Better yet for rpgers we got 8 generic force users! I will find many uses for the gundarks.

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05/24/2006 3:10 PM  
Too bad we don't see Lando in disguse though....

Although the inclusion of the Rare Sep and Uncommon Force users more than makes up for that.

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05/24/2006 3:35 PM  
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So where are the madolarians???



I guess the same D&DM strategy, with Ulic Qel droma as commander making mandalorian avalible for your warband but they will come in Bounty hunters set!

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05/24/2006 9:25 PM  
does any one know the stats on vader

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