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Originally posted by Ack

Im avoiding it like the plague.. I have enough time sinks without adding a new morrowind to the list.

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Originally posted by MrWalrus

I'm totally addicted to Oblivion, and I generally hate video game RPGs.

The load time thing on the 360 is a bug in some copies of the game, but there are instructions on how to fix it on the internet now.

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Originally posted by Nixlord


My only gripes are that despite having a really fast rig and good video card, I still get slowdowns and lags in several areas (especially rooms with lots of people, fire, and torch lights). And the Elder Scrolls interface is still kinda cumbersome compared to other rpgs.

Yeah, I am also not a fan of the way skills and attributes are improved. I also find most of the birth sigs useless or crap. But it's always been that way so you'll just have to ignore it. If you're smart or a veteran of the older games, there is a way to abuse the skill/attribute system.

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Originally posted by Nixlord
Having played both Elder Scrolls 2 and Morrowind, I have to say Bethesda finally nailed it.

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Originally posted by glumag

This game sux in comparison imho, most old time morrowind players will agree (check the boards) the game is console friendly, very console friendly, something that just kills its appeal to me; even the PC version suffers from the console style of morrowind-for-dummies. [eyes]

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/03/24

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Originally posted by Felagund

I loved Morrowind. Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately), when I went to Target the other day, they didn't have it. So now I'm thinking of just buying it online.

What kind of graphics card do you have, Nix? Mine should run it, but if I'm going to have lag problems, I may have to upgrade.

And does the level/skill system work the same as with Morrowind? As in, when you do something, you get better at it?

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Originally posted by Nixlord

My rig:
P4 3.2 Ghz
2048 MB Ram
Geforce 6600 GT 256mb

Yes, the level/skill system still works the same way as Morrowind. Keep on doing something, you get better at it. Improvement of skills is slightly faster now though still spread out so if you aren't careful, you might advance in levels too quickly and not have high enough skills to compliment your level.

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Originally posted by Idzy

I tried it on the Xbox 360, and it was great until I got out of the sewers. After that the load times became hideously long even to bring up a menu. That game actually made me return the 360, I rented the game or release day so it wasn't a bad disc either.
I'm sure its better on PC, but after my terrible experince with it I'm unwilling to even bother download a torrent of it to try.

Maybe software producers should actually test there software before releasing it.

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Originally posted by Aesnath

I haven't been posting alot lately, and it's mostly because of one thing...Oblivion. From a mechanical standpoint, I mostly despise it. It has an "organic" leveling system, that seems to somewhat work backwards (what skills you increase increase your attributes, while the attributes don't necessarily affect the skills). The combat is kinda iffy and can be quite unfair. It' rather alot like playing an MMORPG with out that tricky online business or other people. That having been said, I have literally given myself eyestrain playing the blasted thing. It's pretty. It's compelling. It's overly complex.

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[quote]Originally posted by Nixlord
Having played both Elder Scrolls 2 and Morrowind, I have to say Bethesda finally nailed it.

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Originally posted by Kelemvor

I gotta say I am enjoying Oblivion on the PC.

It's all how you approach the game.
For me it is sort of how I played that game "Thief", with a huge world, instead of level by level limited play.
The combat pyhsics and object physics are excellent over Morrowind.
Items drop and bounce realistically, the screen blurs when you clash weapon against shield and armor.
I spent a good 20 minutes just dragging bodies around by their arms to watch the physics engine.
It just really draws you in. I turn the sound way up, so I can hear my armor clanking in the darkness.
Your ducking in the shadows to make the Bow sneak attack for 2 X damage. You finish off the goblin quickly dropping him with 2 arrows, one to the forehead as he falls over the edge into the water below, only to be out of arrows and suprised by the goblin mage as you get blasted by arcs of lightning that engulf your vision.

So you jump of the ledge into the water, furiously yanking arrows out of floating bodies of goblins, so you can get a shot off, as you realize that this water has something alive in it!
That my friends is immersion...

In my opinion, if your not having fun with Oblivion, then your playing it the wrong way, your machine is too slow, or you just don't like immersive first person RPGs.

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Originally posted by Nixlord

Well said, Kelemvor. [:)]

Immersive and atmospheric are the 2 major characteristics that make Oblivion an addicting game.

I still get creeped out trying to sneak my way in an occasional Vampire-infested, mist-filled crypt. [:p]

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Originally posted by bigbadjon

You see your character every time you look at the equipment screen. As Jon, Champion of the Nine Divines, I must be handsome and rugged. You don't want to look at the product of your impatience every time you use your inventory do you?

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Originally posted by Felagund

Anywho, I went with a Dunmer, custom class. I'm a thief-type with the major skills of Blade, Light Armor, Acrobatics, Athletics, Security, Destruction, and Sneak. I like him okay, though I'd probably switch up a few skills if I had it to do over.

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Anywho, I went with a Dunmer, custom class. I'm a thief-type with the major skills of Blade, Light Armor, Acrobatics, Athletics, Security, Destruction, and Sneak. I like him okay, though I'd probably switch up a few skills if I had it to do over.

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If you'll ever go a second time around as a Thief/Mage, I strongly suggest you drop Acrobatics and/or Athletics as major skills and acquire Illusion instead. The skills Acrobratics and Athletics can be put on minor and still get raised far more often than your other major skills as you will be running and jumping most of the time anyway.

Illusion, on the other hand, must be put on Major as it will be much more time consuming to raise. Aside from the other obviously important defensive spells that the Illusion school grants, you'll also need the various night vision spells so that your thief character won't have a hard time sneaking in the dark.

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