Eliminator53
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628 Posts
    
 | | 04/27/2006 10:58 PM |
| | Is anybody interested in the draft this year? How do ya'll think your teams will do? | |
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Flint_Firestone
Warrior
239 Posts
| | 04/28/2006 12:55 AM |
| | Yea I am just hoping the aints aka the Saints new head man can fill some badly needed holes.[B)] just in case i kept my paper bag from last year [:D] | |
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kgradert13
Sergeant
909 Posts
| | 04/28/2006 10:45 AM |
| | The Bears, being cheap bastiges, will trade their first round pick for a bag of donuts and some sausages. Because, of course, having a TE that can catch the ball seems completely unrealistic. | |
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griffrat
Commander
3507 Posts
| | 04/28/2006 10:50 AM |
| Lookis like the chefs (chiefs for those not in the K.C. region) appear to actually going after a CB. Which is something they have been needing. But the main concern I have not heard addressed is that of the guards and tackles. I mean we need some balance as our offense is starting to age (as a whole and at least Trent ain't getting any younger)
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realmaster
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| | 04/28/2006 2:32 PM |
| | My raiders are eyeing a CB. | |
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griffrat
Commander
3507 Posts
| | 04/28/2006 3:49 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by realmaster
My raiders are eyeing a CB.
They need that and QB among a few things. A RB wouldn't hurt them as I don't think that Moss will really be a threat without one.... | |
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AesophDarkfable
Warlord
5628 Posts
| | 04/28/2006 7:40 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by griffrat
Lookis like the chefs (chiefs for those not in the K.C. region) appear to actually going after a CB. Which is something they have been needing. But the main concern I have not heard addressed is that of the guards and tackles. I mean we need some balance as our offense is starting to age (as a whole and at least Trent ain't getting any younger)
I am filled with a good sense for some strange reason.....
I am filled with a good sense too. but I think they are going to go DL in the first rd and take Kiwi. Either way though isn't a bad move. | |
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AesophDarkfable
Warlord
5628 Posts
| | 04/28/2006 9:20 PM |
| | Holy crap. Houston has agreed to term with Williams and will be passing on Bush. This throws so many changes into the draft. | |
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ShivanWurm
Sergeant
500 Posts
| | 04/28/2006 10:19 PM |
| | I hope Greenway or DeAngelo Williams drops to the Jaguars. | |
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realmaster
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2017 Posts
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| | 04/29/2006 1:26 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by griffrat
quote:
Originally posted by realmaster
My raiders are eyeing a CB.
They need that and QB among a few things. A RB wouldn't hurt them as I don't think that Moss will really be a threat without one....
a mock draft shows them taking vince young from texas in the first round but mock drafts do not mean too much and in the raiders past they sit them on the bench and bring in a veteran.
woodson is gone to the packers. | |
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AesophDarkfable
Warlord
5628 Posts
| | 04/29/2006 1:44 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by realmaster
quote:
Originally posted by griffrat
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Originally posted by realmaster
My raiders are eyeing a CB.
They need that and QB among a few things. A RB wouldn't hurt them as I don't think that Moss will really be a threat without one....
a mock draft shows them taking vince young from texas in the first round but mock drafts do not mean too much and in the raiders past they sit them on the bench and bring in a veteran.
woodson is gone to the packers.
Youngs not going to make it past Tennessee. Fisher wants Lienart, but the GM wants young. | |
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lynchdl
Skirmisher
22 Posts
| | 04/29/2006 9:52 AM |
| | Oakland is going to pick Leinart or Huff with their first pick easy. They need a quarterback(Brooks isn't going to last long judging on last season) and Huff can play any secondary position. | |
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Can of the Cave Beer
Commander
2838 Posts
| | 04/30/2006 12:40 AM |
| Leinert goes to AZ?
Huh?
Green Bay better get their heads out of their sphincters! Favre is DONE, man. He's still good, but he's not the Favre of old--He needs a good line and some good receivers if they want to make it anywhere.
I never did hear about the Steelers' picks. [v] It was a busy day, and I had a monkey yammering at me the whole time. And a few beers. And a bunch of bbq from Famous Dave's. And some arena football... | |
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AesophDarkfable
Warlord
5628 Posts
| | 04/30/2006 1:01 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Can of the Cave Beer
Leinert goes to AZ?
Huh?
Green Bay better get their heads out of their sphincters! Favre is DONE, man. He's still good, but he's not the Favre of old--He needs a good line and some good receivers if they want to make it anywhere.
I never did hear about the Steelers' picks. [v] It was a busy day, and I had a monkey yammering at me the whole time. And a few beers. And a bunch of bbq from Famous Dave's. And some arena football...
Pitt did pretty well if I remember. Their biggest move was trading up to get Santino Holmes | |
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Zeb
Underboss
2027 Posts
| | 04/30/2006 3:24 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Can of the Cave Beer
Leinert goes to AZ?
Huh?
Green Bay better get their heads out of their sphincters! Favre is DONE, man. He's still good, but he's not the Favre of old--He needs a good line and some good receivers if they want to make it anywhere.
I never did hear about the Steelers' picks. [v] It was a busy day, and I had a monkey yammering at me the whole time. And a few beers. And a bunch of bbq from Famous Dave's. And some arena football...
While we do need a QB, we defense more! 'Sides Favre said he's around for at least one more season...I hope his interceptions go down! | |
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kgradert13
Sergeant
909 Posts
| | 04/30/2006 5:56 PM |
| Green Bay wasted a first round pick on a QB last year (Aaron Rodgers), they weren't going to spend another 1st rounder on a QB this year too.
Chicago, of course, traded away their first rounder, and spent their first 4 or 5 picks on defense, to bolster that paltry #1 or #2 ranked defense, while ignoring their high octane 29th or 30th ranked offense.
And, of course, they lose out on the TE they really need...1 pick before theirs.
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Zaukrie
Underboss
2007 Posts
| | 04/30/2006 6:38 PM |
| Could be worse, you could root for a team that took a "non-athletic" center 3 rounds early, then traded 2 third round picks to move to the end of the 2nd round to take a QB no one has heard of.
Basically, we traded Culpepper for a non-athletic center! (that is no endorsement of Culpepper, but come one, that's your pick!) | |
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Gunthar
Commander
2938 Posts
| | 05/01/2006 12:40 AM |
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Originally posted by AesophDarkfable
Holy crap. Houston has agreed to term with Williams and will be passing on Bush. This throws so many changes into the draft.
And the better move for them. D'Brickashaw was the other good choice for them. David Carr takes more hits than a Frenzied Berserker behind that craptastic O-line. They did a nice job of filling there with Spencer and Winston. Chester Pitts should be moved inside.
As for Green Bay, Thompson traded and traded and traded to get more picks, but lost out on a lot of quality doing so. He's the albino Denny trying to prove he's smarter than everyone by grabbing no-naames from small schools.
Oh, and he took a stinking linebacker with the #5. Nice value there, idiot. Swing for the fences, don't choke up. The picks they traded were used for Chad Jackson, Jason Avent and Dominique Byrd, all of whom they could have used. They got a lot of potential depth, but only one sure starter out of the draft.
Houston and Philly did very well, as did the Giants and even Arizona. | |
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Monsoon28
Underboss
2313 Posts
Toronto
| | 05/01/2006 5:30 AM |
| Well I can't say how they'll work out, but Denver seems to have done well for themselves. I do expect another 13-3 season at the very least! [:D]
As for Chicago can't understand what they're doing, hope it works out from them...first round draft picks, who needs 'em? | |
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realmaster
Underboss
2017 Posts
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| | 05/01/2006 5:04 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by lynchdl
Oakland is going to pick Leinart or Huff with their first pick easy. They need a quarterback(Brooks isn't going to last long judging on last season) and Huff can play any secondary position.
No quarterback but we did get huff as you predicted.
Round Overall Player Pos. School Ht. Wt.
1 7 Michael Huff S Texas 6'0" 205
2 38 Thomas Howard OLB UTEP 6'3" 240
3 69 Paul McQuistan OG Weber State 6'6" 315
4 101 Darnell Bing SS USC 6'2" 228
6 176 Kevin Boothe OL Cornell 6'5" 315
7 214 Chris Morris C Michigan State 6'4" 305
7 255 Kevin McMahan WR Maine 6'2" 196 | |
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jgsugden
Commander
4320 Posts
Walnut Creek, CA
| | 05/02/2006 7:43 PM |
| It was a pretty boring draft, really. Watching three U$C jerks players fall (Bush from 1 to 2, Leinart from a lock at 1 last year to 10 this year, and White to pick 45 from mid 1st projections in December) was fun. Can you tell I'm a Cal fan that hates U$C?
I didn't like any of the options on the board when the Raiders picked at 7. I'd rather have seen them trade down and get a few more players than overpay for a CB. If the guy can't shut down 1/2 the field, he shouldn't be a top 10 CB and he shouldn't be making the money he will make.
However, I thought the 49ers got excellent value at 6 with Vernon Davis. An excellent player in a void they needed to fill - skilled receiver. They already had a decent receiving tight end, but a 2 TE formation won't hurt the 49ers in the least.
I thought that the winner of the day was the Saints. They got the #1 player in the draft and didn't need to trade up to get him. If they wanted to trade up to get the best player in the draft from the #2 position, it normally would have cost them a 2nd rd pick to do so ... and they got to do it for free.
Regardless, I'm not a fan fo the draft system anymore. Bad teams are getting penalized by drafting early.
When you draft early, you get the rights to an unproved kid. You then have to pay that kid a gross amount of money, even though you have no real idea if he'll pan out. If he does, you might get enough value out of him to justify that huge signing bonus that crippled your salary cap position for the upcoming 5 years ... and if he doesn't, you have to cover the cost of that signing bonus in your upcoming seasons cap, which leaves you with less money to compete. By the time these guys get to be good enough to be worth the cash they are paid, they leave via free agency.
There are a few positions where you can get early production: LB, DT, OG, RB, FB, and sometimes WR ... but for the most part, those early picks are things that hamstring a franchise. Just look what Ryan Leaf did to the Chargers ...
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AesophDarkfable
Warlord
5628 Posts
| | 05/02/2006 7:46 PM |
| Well the draft is always a gamble thats part of the fun. The problem with the draft is too many teams risk it on "projects" and "potential" rather than solid players. There will always be bombs here or there, San Diego trading the farm for Leaf is a perfect example. QBs are always one of the riskiest picks. The 49ers were a good example of a solid draft, they went after near sure thing players instead of projects and potential. Drafting on potential (SD's horrid pick of Comartie this year) will only bite you in the rear.
I thought this year was a pretty enjoyable draft, lots of trades, lots of players dropping further than expected etc.
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