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05/19/2006 5:30 PM  
When are they going to fix Hayley and get back on the road. The comic has not been fun lately. I'm tired of this story arc. GET ON WITH IT!!!!!!!!

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05/19/2006 6:00 PM  
Agreed. I was never a big Haley fan to begin with. But I've now gone from indifferent to annoyed.

At least Roy's been getting some good character development.

But I feel bad for the fans of Belkar, Durkon, and V.

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05/19/2006 6:03 PM  
Irritating your readers with a one-trick gag that died a month ago is not good PR [V]

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05/19/2006 6:49 PM  
Yeah, it is beyond old.

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05/19/2006 7:00 PM  
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Originally posted by zenthrus

Irritating your readers with a one-trick gag that died a month ago is not good PR [V]


Like Rich gives a damn about his fans...

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05/19/2006 7:54 PM  
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Originally posted by Sammael

quote:
Originally posted by zenthrus

Irritating your readers with a one-trick gag that died a month ago is not good PR [V]

Like Rich gives a damn about his fans...
Well, too much of bad feedback and they could not renew (if there is one) his paizo contract.


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05/19/2006 8:49 PM  
I'm sorry it's annoying you all, but I've really enjoyed the last several days worth (particularly the blah blah blah one). It's a very good demonstration of how much you can feel for a stick figure, and has been done very well. (And you have dwarf beer jokes to laugh at).
I think Hayley will be cured soon, so don't despair [)].

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05/19/2006 8:50 PM  
I had no problem with the strips in general, I just want Haley to stop the babble. It is actually ok in these particular strips, but the previous weeks were too much, so any more and I'm annoyed.

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05/19/2006 10:10 PM  
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Originally posted by Sammael

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Irritating your readers with a one-trick gag that died a month ago is not good PR [V]


Like Rich gives a damn about his fans...


What makes you say that?

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05/20/2006 3:24 AM  
It's just starting to annoy me myself... Not sure if I'm going to pick up his next book if I have to deal with over a chapter of Haley Babble. Besides Darken is entertaining me much more now adays.
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05/20/2006 10:28 AM  
Maybe Rich has something big planned for Haley while she can't talk.

I want more Xykon, V and Linear Guild!

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05/21/2006 2:02 AM  
Maybe, but at this point I don't give a @#$%!.[:p]

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Maybe Rich has something big planned for Haley while she can't talk.

I want more Xykon, V and Linear Guild!


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05/21/2006 9:43 AM  
Roy is my favorite, so the Celia line is good, but I'm also tired of the Haley babble. Cripes, if teh real game bogs down this much, players even start eating the Funyons.

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05/21/2006 4:07 PM  
Link people?

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05/21/2006 4:24 PM  
You haven't seen OotS? Here's a link to #1.


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05/21/2006 4:41 PM  
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What makes you say that?

Rich has lashed out at his fans several times in the past. Badly. For relatively benign imaginary slights.

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05/21/2006 5:10 PM  
Meh, a lot of the 'lashing out' has been at people behaving badly on his boards, I've not seen anything out of the ordinary.

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05/21/2006 5:20 PM  
He basically called people idiots for sending him e-mails with translated Haleyspeak (after the first such comic).

He also lashed out at people for speculating about the future plots (like he has to read the speculations) for supposedly "spoiling" the plots and forcing him to change them.

Finally, every time anybody even remotely tries to go for some constructive criticism, he responds with "you are in a minority" comment and then gets a thousand ego-boosting posts from his resident sycophants.

In the end, OotS is simply not as funny or clever now as it was when it first started. Yes, there are occasionally some very clever and funny strips, but they are an exception. Rich is a big star now, drawing for Dragon and all, and I'm not sure he really has that much time to devote to the weekly comic. I am glad he went back to a 2/week schedule.

I recently bought On the Origin of PCs and there is a tangible difference between that book and the present strips. The book wasn't even supposed to be that funny, but I ended up laughing at it far more than at the recent strips.

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05/21/2006 5:38 PM  
I whole heartedly agree with both the sycophant and loss of quality comments.

I stopped even looking at the forums due to the "jock riding" going on. Heaven forbid you make a comment that could be construed as criticism, constructive or other. It brings out the rabid fanatics going for the throat and groin.

It's gotten to the point where he only updates when he feels like it, so I've even stopped checking it regularly.


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05/22/2006 9:15 AM  
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Originally posted by kgradert13

I whole heartedly agree with both the sycophant and loss of quality comments.

I stopped even looking at the forums due to the "jock riding" going on. Heaven forbid you make a comment that could be construed as criticism, constructive or other. It brings out the rabid fanatics going for the throat and groin.

It's gotten to the point where he only updates when he feels like it, so I've even stopped checking it regularly.



I too have noticed a lack of updating. I also found it slightly sad. I mean, it's a great comic, don't get me wrong. But it's lost it's... greatness, shall we say?

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05/22/2006 9:31 AM  
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Originally posted by Sammael

He basically called people idiots for sending him e-mails with translated Haleyspeak (after the first such comic).

He also lashed out at people for speculating about the future plots (like he has to read the speculations) for supposedly "spoiling" the plots and forcing him to change them.

Finally, every time anybody even remotely tries to go for some constructive criticism, he responds with "you are in a minority" comment and then gets a thousand ego-boosting posts from his resident sycophants.

In the end, OotS is simply not as funny or clever now as it was when it first started. Yes, there are occasionally some very clever and funny strips, but they are an exception. Rich is a big star now, drawing for Dragon and all, and I'm not sure he really has that much time to devote to the weekly comic. I am glad he went back to a 2/week schedule.

I recently bought On the Origin of PCs and there is a tangible difference between that book and the present strips. The book wasn't even supposed to be that funny, but I ended up laughing at it far more than at the recent strips.



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I am a Webcomic Junkie. And a big thing that can make or break a comic is fan support, they and they alone keep your comic in 'business' Acting like an Elitist Prick towards your fanbase is not a way to insure the sucess of what you do.

And it always seems that once a webcomic goes 'industry' the artist seems to lose touch with that fact since they are now getting paid to draw. They lose their passion for their work and it ends up becoming a job, I've seen it happen far too many times in webcomicdom.

I like webcomics much more when it's the fans that determine the revenue. You tend to get comics that spills over with the artist's heart and soul.

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05/22/2006 10:31 AM  
I agree that there is a very strange dynamic between Rich and the fan base. I don't frequent those message boards as the feeling is just strange, this is just me. So, I will continue to lurk there and be seen here....

As to the strip there are some funny things but it seems to have been draggin lately. Dunno, if this is from the infrequent updates, the influnce of fame, the encroachment of the "industry" or someother life episode.

I still read the strip and look forward to it coming out as there are some really nice smiles and lol type momonets when I am at work where I feel strangely strange...[:D]

I hope something happens soon to bring this strip back to the "can't wait to read it...." feeling.

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05/22/2006 12:04 PM  
When it comes to the translation of "Haley-speech", how does one do that?

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05/22/2006 12:35 PM  
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When it comes to the translation of "Haley-speech", how does one do that?



Couple different ways....
1) DIY...it takes forever depending on how hard it is and if the alphabets match up yadda..yadda

2) Brave the message boards and find the strip translation per strip

3) Not care and just read on....(this is what I have been doing and probably the reason I am becoming more apathetic...)

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05/22/2006 7:44 PM  
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Originally posted by griffrat

quote:
Originally posted by MechaKingGhidra

When it comes to the translation of "Haley-speech", how does one do that?



Couple different ways....
1) DIY...it takes forever depending on how hard it is and if the alphabets match up yadda..yadda

2) Brave the message boards and find the strip translation per strip

3) Not care and just read on....(this is what I have been doing and probably the reason I am becoming more apathetic...)


I pick 3) when I can be bothered.

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