smilinIrish Sergeant
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 | | 05/19/2006 5:30 PM |
| | When are they going to fix Hayley and get back on the road. The comic has not been fun lately. I'm tired of this story arc. GET ON WITH IT!!!!!!!! | | E-mail | Have/Want List | Reference thread "Whatever you do, don't drop a blade barrier on a troll."
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Felagund Sergeant
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 | | 05/19/2006 6:00 PM |
| Agreed. I was never a big Haley fan to begin with. But I've now gone from indifferent to annoyed.
At least Roy's been getting some good character development.
But I feel bad for the fans of Belkar, Durkon, and V. | | Champion of Gnomes | |
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 Most Edumacated zenthrus Warlord
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 SLC, UT
 | | 05/19/2006 6:03 PM |
| | Irritating your readers with a one-trick gag that died a month ago is not good PR [V] | | Knight Warlord a.k.a. Commander (#32) in only 6 months. Where's my pie? Champion of Dwarven Thunderlashers Knight of the Large Dire Chicken Have/Want List Trade References | |
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Zaukrie Underboss
 2007 Posts




 | | 05/19/2006 6:49 PM |
| Yeah, it is beyond old.
@#$@#%@ flood control | | Fastest dropping DCI ranking on record! Champion of Juiblex | |
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Sammael Underboss
 1881 Posts




 | | 05/19/2006 7:00 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by zenthrus
Irritating your readers with a one-trick gag that died a month ago is not good PR [V]
Like Rich gives a damn about his fans... | | Hypethetical Blood War Set List | Champion of the Gelugon | Vindicated Prophet of Blood War Ha 69/80 | De 60/60 | Ar 57/60 | GoL 72/72 | Ab 60/60 | DK 60/60 | AF 60/60 | UD 59/60 | WD 57/60 | WDQ 3/60| BW Total DDM Count: 1037 | No chance of finishing the set | Will finish the set | Set | |
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*censored* glumag Warlord
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 | | 05/19/2006 7:54 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Sammael
quote: Originally posted by zenthrus
Irritating your readers with a one-trick gag that died a month ago is not good PR [V]
Like Rich gives a damn about his fans...
Well, too much of bad feedback and they could not renew (if there is one) his paizo contract.
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smithmeg Sergeant
 508 Posts




 | | 05/19/2006 8:49 PM |
| I'm sorry it's annoying you all, but I've really enjoyed the last several days worth (particularly the blah blah blah one). It's a very good demonstration of how much you can feel for a stick figure, and has been done very well. (And you have dwarf beer jokes to laugh at). I think Hayley will be cured soon, so don't despair [)]. | | | |
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Zaukrie Underboss
 2007 Posts




 | | 05/19/2006 8:50 PM |
| | I had no problem with the strips in general, I just want Haley to stop the babble. It is actually ok in these particular strips, but the previous weeks were too much, so any more and I'm annoyed. | | Fastest dropping DCI ranking on record! Champion of Juiblex | |
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Count Dooku Commander
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 | | 05/19/2006 10:10 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Sammael
quote: Originally posted by zenthrus
Irritating your readers with a one-trick gag that died a month ago is not good PR [V]
Like Rich gives a damn about his fans...
What makes you say that? | | Champion of the Skulk Vindicated Champion of the Twig Blight | |
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 Fun Guy from Yuggoth Cthulhufnord Warlord
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 Umass Amherst Baby!
 | | 05/20/2006 3:24 AM |
| It's just starting to annoy me myself... Not sure if I'm going to pick up his next book if I have to deal with over a chapter of Haley Babble. Besides Darken is entertaining me much more now adays. http://www.darkencomic.com/d/20031216.html | | Pathetic Earthlings. Hurling your bodies out into the void - without the slightest inkling of who or what is out here. If you had known anything about the true nature of the universe - anything at all - you would have hidden from it in terror. | |
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orcmonk220 Underboss
 1608 Posts




 | | 05/20/2006 10:28 AM |
| Maybe Rich has something big planned for Haley while she can't talk.
I want more Xykon, V and Linear Guild! | | My Trading Thread | |
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 Fun Guy from Yuggoth Cthulhufnord Warlord
 11113 Posts



 Umass Amherst Baby!
 | | 05/21/2006 2:02 AM |
| Maybe, but at this point I don't give a @#$%!.[:p]
quote: Originally posted by orcmonk220
Maybe Rich has something big planned for Haley while she can't talk.
I want more Xykon, V and Linear Guild!
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Gunthar Commander
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 | | 05/21/2006 9:43 AM |
| | Roy is my favorite, so the Celia line is good, but I'm also tired of the Haley babble. Cripes, if teh real game bogs down this much, players even start eating the Funyons. | | Champion of Prit(Wemic vindication is here) Minneapolis/St. Paul area Completed trades: Aspect of Cheese (Love that moniker), Tickparasite, Elderthing, Lalato, Sodj, Grimoire, SmilinIrish, Zeb, RWarehall,Link, wikkawikkawa, Auramancer, Rommers, HK, Ivid5,Qillan_dvra, Puggins, Arcabius, Ironfist Boulderbender, Robby, Corim Danex, monster_slayer, DNDJUNKIE, Kelemvor, Krush, ckissee, Massawyrm, hockey fan, Wish, Uninspiring Lieutenant, vtloon x2, Vrecknidj, Darthpoke, WakeXX, AnarionZell, lycusmike, papabear5 and umpteen local trades with board members
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 dj-chuckles Underboss
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 The State that invented Spam!
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nyjastul69 Commander
 2731 Posts



 Rhode Island
 | | 05/21/2006 4:24 PM |
| You haven't seen OotS? Here's a link to #1.
http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/GiantITP/ootscript?SK=1
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Sammael Underboss
 1881 Posts




 | | 05/21/2006 4:41 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Count Dooku
What makes you say that?
Rich has lashed out at his fans several times in the past. Badly. For relatively benign imaginary slights.
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IanB Commander
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 | | 05/21/2006 5:10 PM |
| | Meh, a lot of the 'lashing out' has been at people behaving badly on his boards, I've not seen anything out of the ordinary. | | Anson on WotC boards | |
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Sammael Underboss
 1881 Posts




 | | 05/21/2006 5:20 PM |
| He basically called people idiots for sending him e-mails with translated Haleyspeak (after the first such comic).
He also lashed out at people for speculating about the future plots (like he has to read the speculations) for supposedly "spoiling" the plots and forcing him to change them.
Finally, every time anybody even remotely tries to go for some constructive criticism, he responds with "you are in a minority" comment and then gets a thousand ego-boosting posts from his resident sycophants.
In the end, OotS is simply not as funny or clever now as it was when it first started. Yes, there are occasionally some very clever and funny strips, but they are an exception. Rich is a big star now, drawing for Dragon and all, and I'm not sure he really has that much time to devote to the weekly comic. I am glad he went back to a 2/week schedule.
I recently bought On the Origin of PCs and there is a tangible difference between that book and the present strips. The book wasn't even supposed to be that funny, but I ended up laughing at it far more than at the recent strips. | | Hypethetical Blood War Set List | Champion of the Gelugon | Vindicated Prophet of Blood War Ha 69/80 | De 60/60 | Ar 57/60 | GoL 72/72 | Ab 60/60 | DK 60/60 | AF 60/60 | UD 59/60 | WD 57/60 | WDQ 3/60| BW Total DDM Count: 1037 | No chance of finishing the set | Will finish the set | Set | |
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kgradert13 Sergeant
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 | | 05/21/2006 5:38 PM |
| I whole heartedly agree with both the sycophant and loss of quality comments.
I stopped even looking at the forums due to the "jock riding" going on. Heaven forbid you make a comment that could be construed as criticism, constructive or other. It brings out the rabid fanatics going for the throat and groin.
It's gotten to the point where he only updates when he feels like it, so I've even stopped checking it regularly. | | | |
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orcmonk220 Underboss
 1608 Posts




 | | 05/22/2006 9:15 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by kgradert13
I whole heartedly agree with both the sycophant and loss of quality comments.
I stopped even looking at the forums due to the "jock riding" going on. Heaven forbid you make a comment that could be construed as criticism, constructive or other. It brings out the rabid fanatics going for the throat and groin.
It's gotten to the point where he only updates when he feels like it, so I've even stopped checking it regularly.
I too have noticed a lack of updating. I also found it slightly sad. I mean, it's a great comic, don't get me wrong. But it's lost it's... greatness, shall we say? | | My Trading Thread | |
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Vash Underboss
 1995 Posts




 | | 05/22/2006 9:31 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by Sammael
He basically called people idiots for sending him e-mails with translated Haleyspeak (after the first such comic).
He also lashed out at people for speculating about the future plots (like he has to read the speculations) for supposedly "spoiling" the plots and forcing him to change them.
Finally, every time anybody even remotely tries to go for some constructive criticism, he responds with "you are in a minority" comment and then gets a thousand ego-boosting posts from his resident sycophants.
In the end, OotS is simply not as funny or clever now as it was when it first started. Yes, there are occasionally some very clever and funny strips, but they are an exception. Rich is a big star now, drawing for Dragon and all, and I'm not sure he really has that much time to devote to the weekly comic. I am glad he went back to a 2/week schedule.
I recently bought On the Origin of PCs and there is a tangible difference between that book and the present strips. The book wasn't even supposed to be that funny, but I ended up laughing at it far more than at the recent strips.
Q.....F........T
I am a Webcomic Junkie. And a big thing that can make or break a comic is fan support, they and they alone keep your comic in 'business' Acting like an Elitist Prick towards your fanbase is not a way to insure the sucess of what you do.
And it always seems that once a webcomic goes 'industry' the artist seems to lose touch with that fact since they are now getting paid to draw. They lose their passion for their work and it ends up becoming a job, I've seen it happen far too many times in webcomicdom.
I like webcomics much more when it's the fans that determine the revenue. You tend to get comics that spills over with the artist's heart and soul. | | Champion of the Alhoon and my called shot for Unhallowed Blood War Called Shot: Phoenix Trade withe me! | |
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griffrat Commander
 3507 Posts




 | | 05/22/2006 10:31 AM |
| I agree that there is a very strange dynamic between Rich and the fan base. I don't frequent those message boards as the feeling is just strange, this is just me. So, I will continue to lurk there and be seen here....
As to the strip there are some funny things but it seems to have been draggin lately. Dunno, if this is from the infrequent updates, the influnce of fame, the encroachment of the "industry" or someother life episode.
I still read the strip and look forward to it coming out as there are some really nice smiles and lol type momonets when I am at work where I feel strangely strange...[:D]
I hope something happens soon to bring this strip back to the "can't wait to read it...." feeling. | | Ambassador of FUN!!! | |
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MechaKingGhidra Sergeant
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 | | 05/22/2006 12:04 PM |
| | When it comes to the translation of "Haley-speech", how does one do that? | | Champion of the Prismatic Golem
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griffrat Commander
 3507 Posts




 | | 05/22/2006 12:35 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by MechaKingGhidra
When it comes to the translation of "Haley-speech", how does one do that?
Couple different ways.... 1) DIY...it takes forever depending on how hard it is and if the alphabets match up yadda..yadda
2) Brave the message boards and find the strip translation per strip
3) Not care and just read on....(this is what I have been doing and probably the reason I am becoming more apathetic...) | | Ambassador of FUN!!! | |
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 Bert the Troll Commander
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 | | 05/22/2006 7:44 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by griffrat
quote: Originally posted by MechaKingGhidra
When it comes to the translation of "Haley-speech", how does one do that?
Couple different ways.... 1) DIY...it takes forever depending on how hard it is and if the alphabets match up yadda..yadda
2) Brave the message boards and find the strip translation per strip
3) Not care and just read on....(this is what I have been doing and probably the reason I am becoming more apathetic...)
I pick 3) when I can be bothered. | | "Mutton yesterday, mutton today, and blimey, if it don't look like mutton again tomorrer." Bert the Troll - The Hobbit Semi-Secret sig business: "In the age of the internet attaching a famous name to your personal opinion to give more weight to it is a very valid strategy." - Benjamin Franklin Champion of Epic Lolth, Orcus, & Demogorgon and bring us Asmodeus! | |
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