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05/05/2008 7:29 AM  
Cinci de Mayo? huh?
Just an excuse to get blitzed as far as I know.

Do our Canadian neighbors celebrate it?

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05/05/2008 8:40 AM  
Nope.

Wait. How do you mean celebrate?


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05/05/2008 8:41 AM  
We have fewer days off than any other country that's even remotely near our national wealth level.

Leave it be :P

Also, the fact that Hispanics are now the largest minority in the U.S. probably has something to do with it getting attention.

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05/05/2008 9:17 AM  
Posted By Diomedes on 05/05/2008 8:41 AM
We have fewer days off than any other country that's even remotely near our national wealth level.

Leave it be :P

Also, the fact that Hispanics are now the largest minority in the U.S. probably has something to do with it getting attention.


Ding! the hispanic population has soem effect. As does the fact that the US helped quite a bit in the liberation of Mexico.

Other than that, we don't celebrate a lot of other Country's holidays. Most Americans think Boxing Day is what comes before Fight Night.

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05/05/2008 11:50 AM  
I will join in and celebrate too!

Please feel free to join us (Canadians) on the May 2-4!!!!


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05/05/2008 4:50 PM  
Um, cause unless you're Native, you're from somewhere else?
Um, cause we stole this country with glass beads and smallpox infested blankets?
Every people have been oppressed by some other nation at one time or another.

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05/05/2008 5:02 PM  
"Boxing Day"
I only know about it since my folks was Canucks.
And the 24th of May's the Queen's Birthday, if they don't get a holiday, they'll all run away.

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05/05/2008 5:08 PM  
well sibce my wife is half mexican we raise our glasses in celebration

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05/06/2008 1:35 AM  
Posted By Ghendar on 05/05/2008 7:29 AM
Cinci de Mayo? huh?
Just an excuse to get blitzed as far as I know.

Do our Canadian neighbors celebrate it?


No.  Though we did have fajitas for dinner tonight.

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05/06/2008 4:06 AM  
May 5... commemorates a big battle(victory) over the French?
Any history buffs care to enlighten us?

(my window of leanring is open but I don't have enough innitiative to do a search)


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05/06/2008 4:29 AM  
Posted By stephengroy on 05/05/2008 4:50 PM
Um, cause unless you're Native, you're from somewhere else?

Even if you're Native you're from somewhere else.

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05/06/2008 7:09 AM  
No. Though we did have fajitas for dinner tonight.


that's not real mexican food

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05/06/2008 7:27 AM  
mmm fajitas...


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05/06/2008 11:33 AM  
Posted By Wolfgang on 05/06/2008 7:09 AM
No. Though we did have fajitas for dinner tonight.


that's not real mexican food


I'm not really Mexican.

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05/06/2008 11:34 AM  
Posted By greyhaze on 05/06/2008 7:27 AM
mmm fajitas...


And steak fajitas at that.  Leftover steaks from my Sunday grilling session.  Not bad if I may say so myself.

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05/06/2008 12:44 PM  
I want Thenameless' leftovers!

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05/06/2008 2:48 PM  
Posted By Thenameless on 05/06/2008 11:33 AM
Posted By Wolfgang on 05/06/2008 7:09 AM
No. Though we did have fajitas for dinner tonight.


that's not real mexican food


I'm not really Mexican.


LOL!! Nice.

So, why Cinco de Mayo?  And why should Americans savor this day as well?  Because 4,000 Mexican soldiers smashed the French and traitor Mexican army of 8,000 at Puebla, Mexico, 100 miles east of Mexico City on the morning of May 5, 1862.

The French had landed in Mexico (along with Spanish and English troops) five months earlier on the pretext of collecting Mexican debts from the newly elected government of democratic President (and Indian) Benito Juarez.  The English and Spanish quickly made deals and left.  The French, however, had different ideas.

The Mexicans had won a great victory that kept Napoleon III from supplying the confederate rebels for another year, allowing the United States to build the greatest army the world had ever seen.  This grand army smashed the Confederates at Gettysburg just 14 months after the battle of Puebla, essentially ending the Civil War. Union forces were then rushed to the Texas/Mexican border under General Phil Sheridan, who made sure that the Mexicans got all the weapons and ammunition they needed to expel the French.  American soldiers were discharged with their uniforms and rifles if they promised to join the Mexican Army to fight the French.  The American Legion of Honor marched in the Victory Parade in Mexico, City.

It might be a historical stretch to credit the survival of the United States to those brave 4,000 Mexicans who faced an army twice as large in 1862.  But who knows?

In gratitude, thousands of Mexicans crossed the border after Pearl Harbor to join the U.S. Armed Forces.  As recently as the Persian Gulf War, Mexicans flooded American consulates with phone calls, trying to join up and fight another war for America.

Mexicans, you see, never forget who their friends are, and neither do Americans.  That's why Cinco de Mayo is such a party -- A party that celebrates freedom and liberty.  There are two ideals which Mexicans and Americans have fought shoulder to shoulder to protect, ever since the 5th of May, 1862.  VIVA! el CINCO DE MAYO!!


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05/06/2008 2:52 PM  
Thanks for the history lesson Teflon. Much appreciated.

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05/07/2008 4:09 PM  
Posted By greyhaze on 05/06/2008 7:27 AM
mmm fajitas...


and tortillas and salsa...

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05/07/2008 8:40 PM  
Posted By Pedro on 05/07/2008 4:09 PM
Posted By greyhaze on 05/06/2008 7:27 AM
mmm fajitas...


and tortillas and salsa...


If you go this route, then might as well go all the way and add the beef, grated cheese, and sour cream.  Maybe some jalapenos on the side.

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05/08/2008 9:36 PM  
Posted By Thenameless on 05/06/2008 11:34 AM
grilling session.

mmmmmmmmm grilllllllling.

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05/09/2008 1:20 AM  
My dad bought a pretty nice Broil King two summers ago, and we've been putting it to good use. Even in winter, while it's snowing, I get out there and do my barbecuing.

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05/09/2008 2:05 AM  
thatis a good story yeflon thank you

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05/09/2008 9:07 AM  
As to the original question, we celebrate so many holidays because we're a huge mix of every country on earth, and they all bring their own customs with them.

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05/09/2008 10:01 AM  
Yah, but I thought u took all those cultures and crushed their spirits until there was nothing identifiable left of their spirits and cultures?


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Posted By greyhaze on 05/09/2008 10:01 AM
Yah, but I thought u took all those cultures and crushed their spirits until there was nothing identifiable left of their spirits and cultures?


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05/09/2008 11:09 AM  

We are the Anglo-Saxon collective. Your cultural and linguistic distinctiveness will be added to our own. Your biology will adapt to service ours. Cultural identity is irrelevant. Lower your pants and prepare to be boarded.


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05/09/2008 11:12 AM  
lol *pulls pants up*


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05/09/2008 10:18 PM  
Is America the most culturally diverse country in the world?

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05/09/2008 11:06 PM  
Uh, I'd say it's Canada. Werd.


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05/10/2008 12:45 AM  
Posted By greyhaze on 05/09/2008 11:06 PM
Uh, I'd say it's Canada. Werd.


How come?

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05/10/2008 3:02 AM  
USA and EU.

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05/10/2008 8:18 AM  
Well culturally diverse means (to me) actually keeping one's culture. In Canada we have federal police officers and customs officers that wear turbans - as an example.


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05/10/2008 12:36 PM  
Posted By Pedro on 05/10/2008 3:02 AM
USA and EU.


Yeah, the EU isn't a country, it's a bunch of small countries banding together.

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Posted By greyhaze on 05/10/2008 8:18 AM
Well culturally diverse means (to me) actually keeping one's culture. In Canada we have federal police officers and customs officers that wear turbans - as an example.


True.  I see what you mean.  Even the RCMP are allowed turbans now instead of the uniform hats - I don't agree with this by the way.  In USA, it's more "our way or the highway".  If you want to become a citizen of a country, you should expect to adopt some of that countries ways, not have them adopt your old country's ways.

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05/10/2008 7:56 PM  
I actually don't agree with it either. If you're going to join an organization, you work by their rules, imho. It's rather poor form, but I understand what they are trying to accomplish - "look at how tolerant/PC we are". I couldn't wear my piercing to work at Block Buster, but the RCMP and customs with a turban? no prob.


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05/10/2008 8:30 PM  
Yes, as long as the rules don't interfere with some kind of personal safety, the individual should have to comply with the organization that they want to join. Imagine some guy who wants to join the military, and as soon as he gets in, he says "I'm not gonna salute anyone with a higher rank than me. I only salute my god." Should the military tolerate these types of shenanigans? Not in my opinion. The pendulum has swung too far in Canada.

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05/10/2008 9:01 PM  
I think the US gets diversity points because so many of those customs eventually become part of ours.



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05/10/2008 10:13 PM  
Isn't that in essense then creating one culture?


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05/14/2008 7:10 AM  
Isn't that in essense then creating one culture?


Probably, but I think the internet and mass media have more to do with that than immigration. Whenever I head over to bbc and read about social issues in (random country in asia/africa/middle east) there's almost always some mention of "traditional" culture being abandoned for "Western" culture that gets presented in movies and TV shows.

One of the US's large exports is entertainment :P

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