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Posted By maijstral on 06/09/2008 7:43 AM
But the point is moot, this is my last post, you may respond however you wish I won't see it. I've defended Maxminis for over a year from people who think its become nothing but a den of hate and negativity,I've steered new players here dispite the eye rolls whenever I mention Maxminis but the negativity, bitterness here has gotten to be too much for me. Even here in one of the very few positive threads on this site it has degenerated into a whats wrong with the new system and I'm partailly at fault for allowing myself to be baited.
So, anyone agree with this? While I do see more negativity than in the past, I don't see it as this bad. You? | |
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Wolfgang
Commander
3005 Posts
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| | 06/09/2008 8:15 AM |
| | the day we can't express how we feel then I will leave what does he want us to do? lie if no one likes the system then no one likes it sorry for you | |
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| | 06/09/2008 8:19 AM |
| I think that thread degenerated between two posters, and maijstral, who's been around forever, just got fed up. I hope he cools down and comes back.
And it is true, Maxminis is a den of hate, you should all come to DDMSpoilers where we have been acclaimed for having a "good atmosphere"! - Dordledum. ;) | |
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Dordledum
Commander
3191 Posts
Netherlands
| | 06/09/2008 9:23 AM |
| Concerning ddmspoilers, I did indeed say "good atmosphere" and will keep fully supporting that notion.
Concerning MM, I don't think it is negative at all. A few posters are perhaps, but the MM community as a whole is not. MM has been the core of the DDM community since the good ol' Merry Merric days, and will remain so in my book.
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| | 06/09/2008 9:50 AM |
| MM feels like a grognard board, and that means, for the most part, change isn't a good thing. So, there's negativity over change.
Does that make MM a negative board? *shrugs* I don't know. But I like a lot of the guys here, so I'll stick around. But then, a lot of that kind of stuff rolls off my shoulders.
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| | 06/09/2008 11:46 AM |
| I can see the grognard bit. Negativity wise.... I don't see it that much. The Wotc boards are constantly having to edit and delete members posts, here that only happens when somone crosses the line of good taste. I do feel there's quite a bit of angst and irritation over the new edition. The fact that it's so bloody hot right now doesn't help things either...
Posted By Teflon Jeff on 06/09/2008 9:50 AM
MM feels like a grognard board, and that means, for the most part, change isn't a good thing. So, there's negativity over change.
Does that make MM a negative board? *shrugs* I don't know. But I like a lot of the guys here, so I'll stick around. But then, a lot of that kind of stuff rolls off my shoulders.
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| | 06/09/2008 12:23 PM |
| | I don't think that MM is that negative. | |
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zenthrus
Commander
4836 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 06/09/2008 1:00 PM |
| Posted By greyhaze on 06/09/2008 8:19 AM
And it is true, Maxminis is a den of hate, you should all come to DDMSpoilers where we have been acclaimed for having a "good atmosphere"! - Dordledum. ;) Great, fresh atmosphere. Hardly breathed (except by Harneloot and Pinky) 
As to MM negativity? Yup. There's been an awful lot of extremely negative posts by a few specific individuals lately. Plus there are those who have nothing good to say about 4e and wish to be very loud about their opinions.
Compared to the WotC boards, however, maxminis is a haven of peace, tranquility, and decorum
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| Posted By zenthrus on 06/09/2008 1:00 PM Posted By greyhaze on 06/09/2008 8:19 AM
And it is true, Maxminis is a den of hate, you should all come to DDMSpoilers where we have been acclaimed for having a "good atmosphere"! - Dordledum. ;) Great, fresh atmosphere. Hardly breathed (except by Harneloot and Pinky)  As to MM negativity? Yup. There's been an awful lot of extremely negative posts by a few specific individuals lately. Plus there are those who have nothing good to say about 4e and wish to be very loud about their opinions. Compared to the WotC boards, however, maxminis is a haven of peace, tranquility, and decorum
Yeah, and compared to nuclear weapons, sidewinder missles are friendly... 
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3812 Posts
USA
| | 06/09/2008 2:55 PM |
| Posted By Dordledum on 06/09/2008 9:23 AM
Concerning ddmspoilers, I did indeed say "good atmosphere" and will keep fully supporting that notion.
Concerning MM, I don't think it is negative at all. A few posters are perhaps, but the MM community as a whole is not. MM has been the core of the DDM community since the good ol' Merry Merric days, and will remain so in my book.
D.
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It's home away from home. A place to go to catch up on the latest. My main trading hub. Etc...
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The Fortress of Solitude
| | 06/09/2008 9:05 PM |
| We've got a good thing going here. Wizards is full of strangers and whackos and people using fake names when they wanna lay into big brother and other people.
I think there's a decent balance of positive and negative energy here on Maxminis. A yin and yang effect if you will. | |
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Krush
Commander
3143 Posts
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| What we are and I think that others will agree is that we are one big happy, slightly twisted family. We don't always agree and that should be a heathly thing.
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stephengroy
Underboss
1362 Posts
Tempe AZ Beeyotch
| | 06/10/2008 12:55 AM |
| Things on the WotC [WOT-tzi] (intentionally rhymes with NAZI) boards are rather impersonal and biased as FOX news, as can be expected of a vehicle for advancing Hasbro's agenda of promoting the new product and ignoring the old. Have I mentioned Chainmail in this post yet? On Hordelings my little poems and parodies are viewed not as artistic expressions, but rather as some bizarre form of strategic suicide on the battlemap, and have been criticized as such. DDMSpoilers has, as mentioned above, been a welcoming place, and the first place I posted the pictures of the unpainted master sculpts I discovered on Ebay, looking for Yuan Tis to identify some old lead (it has multiple arms, and a cobra-like hood.ÂI still need to take pics of it). ENWorld?ÂNice place to post information about my Game Day Achive Yahoo group. Geeked is a beautifully done website, but not much happens there.ÂI'm still waiting for the Celene Mystery Trade to get started. MM on the other hand is the place I personally feel most welcome, and made to feel as if I am a friend to the regular MMChat crew. I myself hadda have 'grognard' explained to me Way Back When.ÂI am online most days, and that crazy Swede, the pr0nman, the Canucks The Californian and the Utah guys (well, one moved recently) have made me feel like a valued member of the community.ÂI have never been burned by any Maxminis trader (yet?), and ensure any new players that show to our local AZ DDM night know about MM (Gregg and Tynmgnufmg, or however the hell Noah spells it).ÂI have asked for the occasional art project, and the IA IA twins have been right there with custom art that I still owe them for.ÂI have received various goodies from Maxminis pals without even knowing it was sent, and have enjoyed returning the favor. I am still unpacking from the move back to Tempe on the 16th of last month, but once I find everything again, The Exodus will begin, and local post ofice reps will hate me.ÂI feel a certain camaraderie here on MM, and have much more in common with many Maxminis members than just minis, music, movies, and alliteration.ÂAre we negative at times?ÂHells yes!ÂBecause we aren't just a buncha geriatric grognards grousing gaming.ÂWe're opinionated, and oftentimes seriously despise what Hasblo's done to "Our" game.ÂThen again, it ISN'T just OUR game, is it?ÂIt's like the last hold-out for Dreamblade and AAM, since WotC has not updated their pages in forever.ÂStar Wars guys are here also, and since seeing some mods for Tannhauser, I might pop over there a bit myself.ÂThe Maxminis crew tolerates my oftentimes very unique perspectives, and still encourages my behavior. Guess I just wanted to say we MAY be construed as negative at times when we disagree with the way DDM's going, but only because we fiercely care about our hobby, the friends we've made, and the money we've spent on it.ÂI've seen it on Arachnoboards, Phoenix poetry slam-related boards, and 'Livejournal: We Know Drama' isn't just a clever motto.  | |
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Umass Amherst Baby!
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| Well said.
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thekidxii
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No Yack. I said.. we need a DM not BM!
| | 06/10/2008 4:22 AM |
| | wow... I's feeling loved almost. | |
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Wolfgang
Commander
3005 Posts
Milton, Ontario Canada
| | 06/10/2008 5:45 AM |
| you should steph loves everyone and i really mean that.....kinda creepy really
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greyhaze
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Wolfgang
Commander
3005 Posts
Milton, Ontario Canada
| | 06/10/2008 7:44 AM |
| | and he LOVES the touching...... | |
Proud member since March 26 2005
Champion of the SIVAK DRACONIAN
Joke champion of the epic sage!
Demonweb called shot - Sivak Draconian
Feywild called shot - Sivak Draconian
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The Great
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Ghendar
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11227 Posts
The Dark and Forbidding Lands of The Necromancer.
| | 06/10/2008 7:58 AM |
| | Now we're into a different flavor of negativity | |
Ghendar - Now with 51% more snark
Champion of the Spider Eater with rider.
I actually love to be swallowed. - Posted By gss_000 on 09/04/2007 2:32 PM
How many times in life do you get to eat your own Cthulhu? - Posted By Pedro on 03/31/2008 2:29 | |
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The Great
Choco Monster
Ghendar
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11227 Posts
The Dark and Forbidding Lands of The Necromancer.
| | 06/10/2008 8:03 AM |
| Posted By Teflon Jeff on 06/09/2008 9:50 AM
MM feels like a grognard board, and that means, for the most part, change isn't a good thing. So, there's negativity over change.
Not when you compare it to a board like Dragonsfoot.org, which is a great place if you're at all interested in pre-3e D&D games.
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Champion of the Spider Eater with rider.
I actually love to be swallowed. - Posted By gss_000 on 09/04/2007 2:32 PM
How many times in life do you get to eat your own Cthulhu? - Posted By Pedro on 03/31/2008 2:29 | |
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10301 Posts
United States
| | 06/10/2008 6:32 PM |
| I wouldn't call it a haven of negativity. That said, there is a bit more rudeness and intolerance than I'd like. Then again, I'm a nice guy and don't like meanness.
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stephengroy
Underboss
1362 Posts
Tempe AZ Beeyotch
| | 06/10/2008 7:45 PM |
| Posted By greyhaze on 06/10/2008 7:04 AM
I just don't like the touching... Yeah, but you took the $20 DIDN'T YOU?
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Thenameless
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9044 Posts
The Fortress of Solitude
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| Posted By thekidxii on 06/10/2008 4:22 AM
wow... I's feeling loved almost.
You are loved by this fellow hockey guy. Congrats on the Red Wings by the way. | |
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stephengroy
Underboss
1362 Posts
Tempe AZ Beeyotch
| | 06/10/2008 7:48 PM |
| Posted By Vrecknidj on 06/10/2008 6:32 PM
I wouldn't call it a haven of negativity. That said, there is a bit more rudeness and intolerance than I'd like. Then again, I'm a nice guy and don't like meanness.
Dave C'mon, Dave! Intolerance? We ain't had us a good lynchin here in nigh a coon's age!
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Duke of Spoils
greyhaze
Warlord
5841 Posts
| | 06/10/2008 8:19 PM |
| Posted By stephengroy on 06/10/2008 7:45 PM Posted By greyhaze on 06/10/2008 7:04 AM
I just don't like the touching... Yeah, but you took the $20 DIDN'T YOU?
Well, it was already tucked in my underwear... | |
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Corim Danex
Warlord
6621 Posts
West Valley City, Utah
| | 06/10/2008 9:29 PM |
| | I have been negative about 4e and about WotC quite a bit. I don't mind others liking it. I don't enjoy being told things like, "Just wait and see. There was a big outcry when 3.0 came out from the 2nd edition crowd and look how everyone changed their minds." I don't like it when people try to persuade me to change my opinion of 4e and the direction WotC has been taking with the minis line. But I allow others to have their own opinions. | |
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MarioCleanstuff
Warrior
324 Posts
San Diego, CA
| | 06/10/2008 10:17 PM |
| I've peen positive about 4e and DDM and just about everything, but I know I'm easy to please. I know not everything is for everyone, and I welcome people to have their own opinions. If there weren't voices of dissent, then nothing would ever get better. Thank you guys for finding problems I gloss over. Without you, nobody would even know they needed to be fixed. You help games become even better.
Is this place negative? Sure, it has a few vocal members who are opposed to the direction things are going, but I find them to be generally agreeable folks. I pop into the chat window whenever I have the time, and I enjoy talking to the people who join me. If that's negative, I think positive might be lethal.
And Stephen... Would "The Californian" happen to be me? I know I'm on the chat a lot, but I did not know I deserved a capital T in my "The." | |
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Teflon Jeff
Warlord
7146 Posts
Idaho. Yes, we have Gamers in Idaho.
| | 06/11/2008 10:25 AM |
| I'm not sure negative is right, I would say more "opinionated"
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vanrulzz
Underboss
2468 Posts
¯\(°_o)/¯
| | 06/11/2008 10:09 PM |
| | its not MM, its the internet. seriously find a forum thats not called ddmspoilers where nobody has ever had a flame war... | | | |
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Bert the Troll
Commander
3858 Posts
Adelaide
| | 06/11/2008 10:49 PM |
| I find maxminis to be critical of things than other places, but that doesnt have to mean negative. Though teh 4th ed forum probably has the most of the negative.
Though I don't check places as much as I should to comemnt, I find MM is still more polite than nearly every other board.
I find the WoTC board has a lot of people quick to divide into 'sides' and many attempt to ridcule posts rather than respond.
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Thenameless
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9044 Posts
The Fortress of Solitude
| | 06/12/2008 8:57 PM |
| Posted By Teflon Jeff on 06/11/2008 10:25 AM
I'm not sure negative is right, I would say more "opinionated"
That's probably more accurate. | |
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stephengroy
Underboss
1362 Posts
Tempe AZ Beeyotch
| | 06/13/2008 12:38 AM |
| Posted By MarioCleanstuff on 06/10/2008 10:17 PM
And Stephen... Would "The Californian" happen to be me? I know I'm on the chat a lot, but I did not know I deserved a capital T in my "The." Um, yeah, sure Mario. And Krush, and....
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Shottglazz
Sergeant
970 Posts
Quinte West, Ontario, Canada
| | 06/13/2008 9:51 AM |
| The Canucks? Woohoo! We got mentioned!
Looks like most of us here have the same opinion on the "negativity"...would it be better if none of us had issues with what is offered - probably not... | |
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Wraithborne
Commander
3546 Posts
West Virginia
| | 06/13/2008 2:41 PM |
| I think the site is often more critical than others for sure. Personally, I think that's a good thing. There is a nice blend of opinions covering the spectrum. I think that negative opinions tend to stand out to people more. I think if it was all one view, regardless of what that view was, that I wouldn't stick around. Unfortunately, sometimes discussions degenerate....it happens everywhere.
When 4e was first announced, I was guilty of being very negative and crapping all over a lot of things. After a while, I got over my initial anger and realized I wasn't really contributing anything (and was actually helping 4e's cause) especially since I had no intention of ever buying it, so I curbed my posting on 4e. Still feel just as strongly, just not broadcasting it so much. | |
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Thenameless
Warlord
9044 Posts
The Fortress of Solitude
| | 06/17/2008 10:09 PM |
| | Well, constructive criticism is always welcomed by any business. But, actually, even outright negativity can be useful to a company as long as the disgruntled person makes a clear and valid case as to why he/she feels that way. | |
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Teflon Jeff
Warlord
7146 Posts
Idaho. Yes, we have Gamers in Idaho.
| | 06/18/2008 9:28 AM |
| Bad: You suck!
Good: You suck, and here's why...
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Thenameless
Warlord
9044 Posts
The Fortress of Solitude
| | 06/19/2008 2:45 AM |
| | Exactly. | |
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Wolfgang
Commander
3005 Posts
Milton, Ontario Canada
| | 06/19/2008 11:56 AM |
| | LMAO | |
Proud member since March 26 2005
Champion of the SIVAK DRACONIAN
Joke champion of the epic sage!
Demonweb called shot - Sivak Draconian
Feywild called shot - Sivak Draconian
Number of sets with Sivak Draconian as my called shot - 9
Completed trades: (78)
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thekidxii
Sergeant
402 Posts
No Yack. I said.. we need a DM not BM!
| | 06/20/2008 4:50 AM |
| | wonder if maijstral ever read this? | |
Champion of the dire hippo.
Audi Vide Tace
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