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| | 04/13/2008 4:04 AM |
| That's very sad | |
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| | 04/13/2008 6:00 AM |
| | that is so sad HALF your life wasted i hope the police who tortured him get what they have coming | |
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| | 04/13/2008 7:12 AM |
| | That's terrible and a shining example of how something intended to be a good thing(privelage) can be very bad at times.....I think it's pathetic that he hasn't been released yet. | |
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| | 04/13/2008 7:15 AM |
| | Why has nothing been done if the case was medialized? | |
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The Red Light District
| | 04/13/2008 7:23 AM |
| Posted By Pedro on 04/13/2008 7:15 AM
Why has nothing been done if the case was medialized?
Government doesn't like to admit screw ups I suppose. | |
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| | 04/13/2008 7:36 AM |
| Posted By Wraithborne on 04/13/2008 7:23 AM Posted By Pedro on 04/13/2008 7:15 AM
Why has nothing been done if the case was medialized? Government doesn't like to admit screw ups I suppose.
But everyone knows it.
It's the same here, but when the medialization traces off, usually steps are taken. Mass-human forgets about the case and those that care get what they have wanted and are happy. Admitting bad things in front of a mass-human kills a politician. | |
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| | 04/13/2008 8:02 AM |
| | True, but with the amount of time gone by here, you'd think the politician would jump on doing the right thing, especially since he wouldn't (likely) have been in office or had anything to do with it. Pass the blame and all. | |
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| | 04/13/2008 1:30 PM |
| I am amazed Obama hasn't jumped on this. It's his homestate, and a great chance for publicity.
It's incredibly sad. | |
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Thenameless
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The Fortress of Solitude
| | 04/13/2008 1:33 PM |
| Posted By Wraithborne on 04/13/2008 8:02 AM
True, but with the amount of time gone by here, you'd think the politician would jump on doing the right thing, especially since he wouldn't (likely) have been in office or had anything to do with it. Pass the blame and all.
Good point, Wraith. At the very least, this poor guy deserves to be let go. Really, he should be compensated though. There was a guy from Saskatchewan that had the same thing happen to him - spent some of his best years in jail for doing nothing. Later on, DNA evidence exonerated him, and the governement gave him something like 2 or 3 million dollars.
Kind of makes you mad that people would still be dragging their heels on something like this. It's a human being suffering in there, it's not like it's just a neglected car or something. | |
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| | 04/13/2008 1:49 PM |
| Usually, there's a monetary payment to forestall any wronful imprionment suit. I imagine he'll get some sort of compensation, but nothing could be worth those 26 years. | |
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The Fortress of Solitude
| | 04/13/2008 6:51 PM |
| | Nothing whatsoever. | |
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Pedro
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Czech Republic
| | 04/14/2008 12:46 PM |
| At least he was imprisoned in a civilized country and not somewhere in hell.
There were 2 Czech dealers that got caught somewhere in Asia and were sentenced there for about 60 years in cells without toilets and 30-50 other people. Hygiene zero and so on. | |
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| | 04/14/2008 1:10 PM |
| Yeah, go read some of the articles before M:tG's Kuala Lumpur Pro Tour. They specifically mention not running afoul of the law. they don't mess around over there with crime. Especially Drug Crime.
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| | 04/14/2008 4:24 PM |
| There were 2 Czech dealers that got caught somewhere in Asia and were sentenced there for about 60 years in cells without toilets and 30-50 other people. Hygiene zero and so on.
BUT if they were not dealing they would have not end up there so you have to remember these 5 words
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The Fortress of Solitude
| | 04/15/2008 12:06 AM |
| Posted By Pedro on 04/14/2008 12:46 PM
At least he was imprisoned in a civilized country and not somewhere in hell.
There were 2 Czech dealers that got caught somewhere in Asia and were sentenced there for about 60 years in cells without toilets and 30-50 other people. Hygiene zero and so on.
Right. Some say prisons in Canada are almost like country clubs that you aren't allowed to leave. You do not want to go to a third world prison. | |
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Thenameless
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| | 04/15/2008 12:07 AM |
| Posted By Teflon Jeff on 04/14/2008 1:10 PM
Yeah, go read some of the articles before M:tG's Kuala Lumpur Pro Tour. They specifically mention not running afoul of the law. they don't mess around over there with crime. Especially Drug Crime.
After reading that, you'd almost be afraid to go and play over there. | |
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The Fortress of Solitude
| | 04/15/2008 12:09 AM |
| Posted By Wolfgang on 04/14/2008 4:24 PM There were 2 Czech dealers that got caught somewhere in Asia and were sentenced there for about 60 years in cells without toilets and 30-50 other people. Hygiene zero and so on. BUT if they were not dealing they would have not end up there so you have to remember these 5 words "YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW"
That's true. Usually, when you lead a clean life, life goes pretty smoothly. That's why I hate it when you hear of cops planting drugs on people just to make an arrest. | |
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| | 04/15/2008 5:29 AM |
| Posted By Thenameless on 04/15/2008 12:09 AM Posted By Wolfgang on 04/14/2008 4:24 PM There were 2 Czech dealers that got caught somewhere in Asia and were sentenced there for about 60 years in cells without toilets and 30-50 other people. Hygiene zero and so on. BUT if they were not dealing they would have not end up there so you have to remember these 5 words "YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW" That's true. Usually, when you lead a clean life, life goes pretty smoothly. That's why I hate it when you hear of cops planting drugs on people just to make an arrest.
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| | 04/15/2008 5:31 AM |
| Posted By Thenameless on 04/15/2008 12:06 AM Posted By Pedro on 04/14/2008 12:46 PM
At least he was imprisoned in a civilized country and not somewhere in hell.
There were 2 Czech dealers that got caught somewhere in Asia and were sentenced there for about 60 years in cells without toilets and 30-50 other people. Hygiene zero and so on. Right. Some say prisons in Canada are almost like country clubs that you aren't allowed to leave. You do not want to go to a third world prison.
Same arguments here. The have TV, books and onci in a month a free room. | |
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| | 04/16/2008 7:29 AM |
| Right. Some say prisons in Canada are almost like country clubs that you aren't allowed to leave.
I had a friend who worked for the kingston penn and if you belive that you are just being silly | |
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The Fortress of Solitude
| | 04/16/2008 11:44 PM |
| Posted By Wolfgang on 04/16/2008 7:29 AM Right. Some say prisons in Canada are almost like country clubs that you aren't allowed to leave. I had a friend who worked for the kingston penn and if you belive that you are just being silly
I'm sure it's not a country club, but I'm also pretty sure that it's a far cry from a prison in Mexico, Philippines, or Turkey. | |
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Pedro
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| | 04/17/2008 6:21 AM |
| Posted By Thenameless on 04/16/2008 11:44 PM Posted By Wolfgang on 04/16/2008 7:29 AM Right. Some say prisons in Canada are almost like country clubs that you aren't allowed to leave. I had a friend who worked for the kingston penn and if you belive that you are just being silly I'm sure it's not a country club, but I'm also pretty sure that it's a far cry from a prison in Mexico, Philippines, or Turkey.
The real question is: which one is better? Detention as a punishment, or re-education? | |
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The Red Light District
| | 04/17/2008 10:40 AM |
| | Punishment....the crazy dude in Texas has it right. | |
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| | 04/17/2008 1:51 PM |
| Posted By Wraithborne on 04/17/2008 10:40 AM
Punishment....the crazy dude in Texas has it right.
The current modern system believes otherwise... | |
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The Fortress of Solitude
| | 04/17/2008 8:01 PM |
| Posted By Pedro on 04/17/2008 6:21 AM Posted By Thenameless on 04/16/2008 11:44 PM Posted By Wolfgang on 04/16/2008 7:29 AM Right. Some say prisons in Canada are almost like country clubs that you aren't allowed to leave. I had a friend who worked for the kingston penn and if you belive that you are just being silly I'm sure it's not a country club, but I'm also pretty sure that it's a far cry from a prison in Mexico, Philippines, or Turkey. The real question is: which one is better? Detention as a punishment, or re-education?
Punishment for most criminals.
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The Red Light District
| | 04/17/2008 10:57 PM |
| Posted By Pedro on 04/17/2008 1:51 PM Posted By Wraithborne on 04/17/2008 10:40 AM
Punishment....the crazy dude in Texas has it right. The current modern system believes otherwise...
Which is why we have all of these repeat offenders. | |
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Thenameless
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The Fortress of Solitude
| | 04/18/2008 12:05 AM |
| | Right. With some people, it almost seems obvious that they will repeat when they get out (especially if they've already been a repeat offender). If they can shorten a sentence for good behaviour, then why not the converse? If he looks like he'll do it again, leave him in there. | |
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| | 04/18/2008 3:36 AM |
| Posted By Thenameless on 04/18/2008 12:05 AM
Right. With some people, it almost seems obvious that they will repeat when they get out (especially if they've already been a repeat offender). If they can shorten a sentence for good behaviour, then why not the converse? If he looks like he'll do it again, leave him in there. Longer sentences for people who offend again. | |
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| | 04/18/2008 3:37 AM |
| Posted By Thenameless on 04/18/2008 12:05 AM
Right. With some people, it almost seems obvious that they will repeat when they get out (especially if they've already been a repeat offender). If they can shorten a sentence for good behaviour, then why not the converse? If he looks like he'll do it again, leave him in there.
Also another policy is needed for people with mental disorder. | |
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The Red Light District
| | 04/18/2008 10:30 AM |
| | But the mental disorder thing has been taken to a ridiculous extreme and then when someone who's obviously mentally deficient comes along, a la Dahmer, they say he's sane!! | |
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Thenameless
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The Fortress of Solitude
| | 04/18/2008 7:11 PM |
| Posted By Wraithborne on 04/18/2008 10:30 AM
But the mental disorder thing has been taken to a ridiculous extreme and then when someone who's obviously mentally deficient comes along, a la Dahmer, they say he's sane!!
I agree that the mental disorder thing has been abused to the ridiculous, and I have the solution for it. If I'm the judge, and the person is found guilty, I'll give him a choice.
a) If you're sane, then you do hard time.
b) If you have a mental disorder, then we'll give you a labotomy.
You pick. | |
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The Red Light District
| | 04/18/2008 7:17 PM |
| Posted By Thenameless on 04/18/2008 7:11 PM Posted By Wraithborne on 04/18/2008 10:30 AM
But the mental disorder thing has been taken to a ridiculous extreme and then when someone who's obviously mentally deficient comes along, a la Dahmer, they say he's sane!! I agree that the mental disorder thing has been abused to the ridiculous, and I have the solution for it. If I'm the judge, and the person is found guilty, I'll give him a choice. a) If you're sane, then you do hard time. b) If you have a mental disorder, then we'll give you a labotomy. You pick.
Works for me. | |
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So, you stand at your grave, Has your soul yet been taken away?
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Pedro
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3926 Posts
Czech Republic
| | 04/19/2008 7:56 AM |
| Posted By Thenameless on 04/18/2008 7:11 PM Posted By Wraithborne on 04/18/2008 10:30 AM
But the mental disorder thing has been taken to a ridiculous extreme and then when someone who's obviously mentally deficient comes along, a la Dahmer, they say he's sane!! I agree that the mental disorder thing has been abused to the ridiculous, and I have the solution for it. If I'm the judge, and the person is found guilty, I'll give him a choice. a) If you're sane, then you do hard time. b) If you have a mental disorder, then we'll give you a labotomy. You pick.
That's stupid. This will kill him.
If he is sane, he should be imprisoned.
If he is not, he should be restrained and treated. Not killed. | |
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The Fortress of Solitude
| | 04/19/2008 3:28 PM |
| | Like I said, I'm stupid. Aren't there ways of removing part of a person's brain so that they're still alive? You know, like turning him into a vegetable. | |
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| | 04/19/2008 8:39 PM |
| lol
If you roll a very good number, there have been cases where the lobotomy did not kill or damage that person that much or after a very long time and it wass very slow-moving. | |
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The Fortress of Solitude
| | 04/19/2008 11:01 PM |
| Basically, the idea is to make the guy want to serve normal jail time instead of using the whimpy insanity plea.
About the labotomy, I'm sure there are some neurosurgeons that could perform a successful one without killing the patient fairly reliably. | |
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| | 04/20/2008 7:15 AM |
| About the labotomy, I'm sure there are some neurosurgeons that could perform a successful one without killing the patient fairly reliably.
we can only hope | |
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The Fortress of Solitude
| | 04/20/2008 7:22 PM |
| | Just isolate the part that makes the guy violent/untrustworthy/whatever it is he does, and remove it. | |
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| | 04/21/2008 8:35 AM |
| | Have you read One Flight over a Cuckoo's Nest? | |
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