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11/23/2005 2:47 PM  
recovered topic 11890


You know, I keep thinking that after the new design team gets done with D&D 4e, D&D won't stand for Dungeons and Dragons anymore, because well, that's just not fun. It's old and stuffy. - Originally Posted by BabWryter on Kenzerco.com

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11/23/2005 2:47 PM  
The link isn't working for me.


You know, I keep thinking that after the new design team gets done with D&D 4e, D&D won't stand for Dungeons and Dragons anymore, because well, that's just not fun. It's old and stuffy. - Originally Posted by BabWryter on Kenzerco.com

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11/23/2005 2:51 PM  

I know that...I did everything lalato said to do...

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11/23/2005 3:01 PM  
Well, I have tried everything...I will wait for lalato's help...

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11/23/2005 3:59 PM  
get rid of that /img on the end of your link

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11/23/2005 7:40 PM  
Is there writing on the bottom of the base of the black one? The pictures are a bit blurry.


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11/23/2005 11:21 PM  

Thank you to whoever fixed it, but downsized it was very clear one was coppery ( standard on WoTc's pictures, while the other one ( I have 2 or 3 like that ) are very clearly black.
Were there two versions of the Archfiends Warrior Skeleton ? Repaints ? Promos ?

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11/29/2005 1:30 PM  
I've not heard of official repaints or Promo's of this fig. Frankly, your picture is to blurry to do much good. Try taking it again with good light, and a good focus'd picture.

A key item, as mentioned is what is written on the bottom of each.

Mistakes DO happen in production...

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11/29/2005 1:54 PM  

Well, I know from an ebay seller friend of mine that "defect" cards are actually worth
more, could the same be true for the two "black" warrior skeleton models I have ? I know
copper painting is the default color. And, I will check the base and try to get my friend
to take a better picture of them. Standing would be better, I think.

By the way, what should I be looking for on the base ?

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11/29/2005 3:15 PM  
I fixed the img links; no worries.

Just compare the bases and list out the text here for those of us to see.

As far as things being "worth more" ... that really depends on who's looking to buy. From my perspective there are only a few people who try to get all of the errors, variants, etc. Maybe to those folks they'd be worth more but generally not to everyone.

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11/29/2005 4:09 PM  
quote:
Well, I know from an ebay seller friend of mine that "defect" cards are actually worth
more, could the same be true for the two "black" warrior skeleton models I have ? I know
copper painting is the default color. And, I will check the base and try to get my friend
to take a better picture of them. Standing would be better, I think.


This can be true. There have been several instances of Factory defects, or factory Master hitting Ebay (someone in China must be Dumpster Diving!), and they have sold for a good bit more than standard figures. However, these figures don't ever (as far as I have heard) make their way into boosters.

Unfortunatley the skeleton is a common, so it may not make that much of a difference, particularly as its probably not "painted" black, but rather the painter FORGOT to paint it!

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11/29/2005 6:32 PM  

Hmm, forgetting to paint...that could just be. Ok, let me list the text on the bases. The
cards are the same ( oh, and my defect card was a HB-Gnoll that had no number or rarity and a black stripe on top of the card ).

Copper skeletons : Black skeletons :

( Archfiends symbol ) ( Archfiends symbol )
43/60 LE/CE 3 43/60 LE/CE 3
Warrior Skeleton Warrior Skeleton
@2004 Wizards @2004 Wizards
Made In China Made In China
( common symbol ) ( common symbol )

The bases seem to be exactly the same, I will need another picture...

By the way, my unbagged Warrior Skeleton up for trade is black.

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11/30/2005 11:07 AM  
Since the text on the bottom of the figure confirms that these were MEANT to be the standard skeletons, more than likely the "special" figures aren't worth much more than the standard ones, at least to collectors.

Maybe if they were still in the original plastic, you might have something, since it would be an obvious defect from the factory. Even then, defects (by themselves) aren't all that special--lots of people pull figures that are missing arms and weapons and such, and I haven't of any collectors looking for those.

Also, the alternative paint job could have easily been someone repainting standard skeletons after they pulled them from the boosters in the normal fashion. There are people out there who will pay a premium for a nicely done alternative paint scheme, but it has to be just that: a NICELY DONE paint job. I doubt many people will pay much for a poorly done alternative paint job (not saying that yours are--I really can't tell much from the photo--you'll have to judge that for yourself).

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12/01/2005 1:02 AM  
Until the text from the bases was posted, I was wondering if some of them were from the D&D Basic Set. I was wrong, though.

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12/01/2005 10:44 AM  
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Originally posted by Corim Danex

Until the text from the bases was posted, I was wondering if some of them were from the D&D Basic Set. I was wrong, though.



The D&D Basic Set figures are supposed to be painted exactly like their counterparts from the original sets, they just have different base text.

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12/01/2005 6:50 PM  

Actually the paint job is worse, but they look more like skeletons. Black fits better than
copper for skeletons and you can see the limbs inside better. It is up for trade, if anyone
is curious at the same value a normal one has. My unbagged is painted black. I kept a black
bagged because I am working on a skeleton army and it would be best if they all looked alike,hehe [)]

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