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gss_000
Commander
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Baltimore, MD
 | | 10/12/2006 5:14 PM |
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I think this is the best place to ask this, but with the semi-recent threads about sending first, amount of trades, etc, I was wondering if anyone is taking feedback from ebay into account in terms of whether someone is a trustwrthy trader for sending simulataneously, etc.
For instance, I have more ebay feedback than successful trades here. Right now I'm under the 10 trades usually needed not to send first. In general that's fine. I think it's a good system. But since we have a thread where we list people's ebay ID and their maxminis' ID, would anyone care about that?
I may update my sig to include that link as well if people would take it into account. Thanks for any feedback in advance.
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Completed trades: blackthorne, Drakkengi,Thorgrin, Ironfist Boulderbender x2, ckissee, nasamonkey, Username, Star, Ace13 x3, emontedodger x2, Drconveyor, church, Joeyb, Sir Bozak The Damned, Xeromod, the other guy x2, Qucalion of Celene, Dagaron x2, berus316, qillan_dvra, AshloreDarkShadow
For further info go to My Reference Thread and Trade Interface
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Star
Sergeant
978 Posts
New Britain, CT
| | 10/12/2006 5:51 PM |
| Completed trades on maxmini's seems to be the standard. I think that having a good ebay rating would be taken into some slight consideration, but for the mostpart only trades completed here (and for some people - hordlings) count.
I'm not sure why ebay ratings don't mean as much but I'm new and not disputing the system. When I do have a lot of completed trades and a new trader refuses to send first because of his high ebay rating I would probably take it as a warning sign.
I'm a new trader and have sent first on every trade that I've made - and I don't have a problem with that. Although I have rejected one trade offer because the guy had four completed trades and wanted me to send first because I only had one. I suppose that you could argue that he had four times as many trades as I did. I argued that we were both brand new traders and should ship at the same time.
I've gotten off point - build up your trades here like you've built up your ebay rating, and don't worry about it. | |
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yack
Commander
3129 Posts
Ottawa, Canada
| | 10/12/2006 7:13 PM |
| | Star is totally correct its good for maybe reference but trades within the site really count...most of us here had to send first when we started. | |
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gss_000
Commander
3204 Posts
Baltimore, MD
| | 10/12/2006 7:53 PM |
| Yeah, I have no problem with the system as is, as I said in my post. I'd like it if everyone knew I was trustworthy (can't you see it in my face?  ), but I understand the need to build trust in site. | |
Completed trades: blackthorne, Drakkengi,Thorgrin, Ironfist Boulderbender x2, ckissee, nasamonkey, Username, Star, Ace13 x3, emontedodger x2, Drconveyor, church, Joeyb, Sir Bozak The Damned, Xeromod, the other guy x2, Qucalion of Celene, Dagaron x2, berus316, qillan_dvra, AshloreDarkShadow
For further info go to My Reference Thread and Trade Interface
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Zenako
Commander
3445 Posts
| | 10/13/2006 8:58 AM |
| | The problem with using IDs from another site or location is that it could be hard to validate that those other ID's are you. That was part of the original insistence on relying on in house trades for the guidelines. Adding other references to your sig file or in a discussion with another trader is often done and fine. It also used to be a much more open process with most trades being conducted via threads and people actually posting in threads about trade status and when they were completed. As the site grew that manually tabulated process, with all its visibility became unwieldy and was replaced by an automated trade tracker, which on many levels is far superior in execution than the old system was, BUT, most of the traders do not get the same overall sense of character about other traders that they used to get via all the posted dialog... | |
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ckissee
Underboss
1428 Posts
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| | 10/13/2006 2:39 PM |
| In my opinion, eBay is not a valid point of reference for trading of any sort. eBay is a buy/sell interface, with one person sending first (the buyer) every time a transaction takes place. It doesn't matter how much eBay feedback you have to eBay, you will send your end first every time if you are a buyer, and wait to receive before sending if you are a seller. It is an apples to oranges comparison.
Yes, it does give you an idea of how the person you are trading with handles monetary transactions, but since there is not a "simul-send" taking place, i don't consider it to be a trade reference. | |
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gss_000
Commander
3204 Posts
Baltimore, MD
| | 10/13/2006 6:24 PM |
| | Thanks for the responses, especially the history lesson on the evolution of trads on the boards. It's cool to see. | |
Completed trades: blackthorne, Drakkengi,Thorgrin, Ironfist Boulderbender x2, ckissee, nasamonkey, Username, Star, Ace13 x3, emontedodger x2, Drconveyor, church, Joeyb, Sir Bozak The Damned, Xeromod, the other guy x2, Qucalion of Celene, Dagaron x2, berus316, qillan_dvra, AshloreDarkShadow
For further info go to My Reference Thread and Trade Interface
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jgsugden
Commander
4320 Posts
Walnut Creek, CA
| | 10/15/2006 8:45 AM |
| There will never be firm rules in this department. If I get a trade offer that seems too good to be true or otherwise gives me the willies, I might ask that opponent to send first - even if it were Zenako or some other trader with thousands of trades behind them. If a new trader offered to trade me a few recent (but low value) rares for some of my old commons/uncommons (and the trade were a pretty fair value by Ebay auction valuing), I might agree to simulsend - even if my trade partner had no references. (Or, I would have before I announced that I might, thus inviting someone to shove some fraudulent trade on me). People have to decide on what they feel is comfortable in a trade.
Accordingly, the decision on whether to factor in Ebay references is a personal decision. The issues discussed in the posts above are things you must consider when doing so, but if a new trader has a number of Ebay references, you think those references are valid, and you think you can safely link the Ebay identitiy to the Maxminis identity - you might decide that the person is trustworthy enough to simulsend. | |
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Corim Danex
Warlord
6562 Posts
West Valley City, Utah
| | 10/17/2006 6:31 PM |
| I think that poor performance on ebay is more likely to affect someone's reputation here negatively than good performance on ebay affecting their reputation here positively.
Trades at other websites don't really count here, either.
It's unfortunate that the handful of poor traders we (maxminis community) have suffered affects new traders who have good intentions. | |
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