Liquidburn
Sergeant
944 Posts
    
 | | 07/06/2005 8:16 AM |
| | recovered topic 5590 | |
Jason Slingerland
"Why do I have to be Mr. Pink?" | |
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Liquidburn
Sergeant
944 Posts
| | 07/06/2005 8:16 AM |
| I'm in.
Aesoph, we played at the Collinsville Tournament. Glad to hear you are in. | |
Jason Slingerland
"Why do I have to be Mr. Pink?" | |
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The Defenestrator
AesophDarkfable
Warlord
5628 Posts
| | 07/06/2005 8:26 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Liquidburn
I'm in.
Aesoph, we played at the Collinsville Tournament. Glad to hear you are in.
Why would you be in the grinder? you already qualified brother :)
This is the last ditch qualifier for nationals. | |
Im out- find me on Hordelings if you want to chat. | |
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CSchroder
Sergeant
413 Posts
| | 07/06/2005 8:29 AM |
| | Why be in the grinder if you have already qualified? Isn't there another constructed 200 on Friday if you want to practice for Saturday? | |
Charles AKA The Beardless One, Proud Member of Team Amish | |
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Liquidburn
Sergeant
944 Posts
| | 07/06/2005 9:40 AM |
| Why be in the grinder?
Because I am an idiot. I thought you were trying to get together a list of everyone from this sight who had already qualified. Sorry for the confusion. | |
Jason Slingerland
"Why do I have to be Mr. Pink?" | |
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10425 Posts
United States
| | 07/06/2005 10:21 AM |
| I can't decide if I should go to this Grinder nonsense. My guess is that there will be something like 8 rounds and that I'll go 6-2 and that one of my losses will be to someone who also goes 6-2 (or worse) and that I will have 1) burned an entire day and 2) not qualified.
There's also this daunting prospect: if I make it through, I've got basically no recovery time before I'm going to get matched up against someone who, quite likely, qualified some long time ago and is all fresh and ready to eat me for lunch.
On the third hand ([:)]) it might be good to go through the Grinder just to meet some of you folks who are in a similar situation.
Speaking of which, is the championship open to public viewing? I mean, can I just walk around the tables and watch all you champs playing?
Dave | |
Knowledge Arcana editor issues 5-9, Phoenix Lore Magazine editor, assistant editor for Rite Publishing;
My Trade Thread and My Reference Thread; Winner of WBC IV, IX and XIII; Rule #0: bshugg is always right! | |
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Ironballz
Sneak
68 Posts
| | 07/06/2005 10:24 AM |
| My friend who drove with me to KY who didn't qualify should be playing in the grinder, Rave0021.
I've heard mixed reports about the "grinder" from last year. Some said it was horrible, others said that not a lot of people showed up and it did make it rougher to play the next day, but not the endurance test it's been made out to be. I'm sure, either way, there will be more people there this year than last.
It'd have to be aboslutely huge to go 8 rounds of swiss though (ie, for you to play 8 games and not be a qualifier). Montreal had 52 players and 6 rounds of swiss right if memory serves. Correct me if I'm wrong (which I probably am), wouldn't it have to be over 128 people to have more than 7 swiss rounds? | |
Champion of the Minotaur Knight
Herald of the Epic Snig | |
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Hero of Skirmish
doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 07/06/2005 10:31 AM |
| Yeah, it is. The crowd was pretty reasonable sized during the semi-/quarter-/finals last year. Luckily I am not easily distracted. :P
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I am not gone. | |
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Wrackspawn
ChristopherGroves
Warlord
6093 Posts
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Fry
Underboss
1724 Posts
| | 07/06/2005 11:41 AM |
| | I've heard they're taking top 8 out of the grinder to the "big show" the next day. It might end up being trivial to qualify there. | |
"Why am I all sticky and naked? Did I miss something fun?"
-Vindicated champion of Tordek, Dwarf Champion | |
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PatEllis15
Commander
4463 Posts
| | 07/06/2005 2:19 PM |
| "trivial".... I couldn't make top 8 in Massachusetts...
I am going, I expect to qualify, and I will start Nationals, but will probably drop.
I want to Qualify, but I have no expectations that I will have the time to design, test/play enough bands to be competitive in the finals.
Instead, I'll go play AAM....
Striderlotr is going to the MeatGrinder with me....
Pat E | |
"Games evolve. Otherwise we'd still be pushing rocks around the dirt. What do you think the cavemen said when some dude showed up with sticks?" - Chairman7w | |
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10425 Posts
United States
| | 07/06/2005 2:25 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Fry
I've heard they're taking top 8 out of the grinder to the "big show" the next day. It might end up being trivial to qualify there.
If there are 40 or fewer players, and if a quarter to a half of those players are on-the-spot players who aren't bringing top bands, then, yes, it might be trivial.
If there are 65 to 80 players and if only 20 or so are unprepared, then it's going to be a helluva long day and rough to get in. Even if players drop out over the course of the event (I assumed 10 drop out of a field of 72), there are 13 people with one or zero losses after 5 rounds of Swiss. And, of those, most have one loss, and, of those, very few are losses to undefeated opponents.
I don't want to be a pessimist, but given the popularity of DDM, the Grinder might be grinding indeed.
Edit: On the other hand, if Maxminis people face each other in the early rounds, they could take an Intentional Draw. I mean, if DCI is giving away 1 point for this, and if there are tons of players there, taking a 1 point draw after a 3 point win might be a good way to spend the second round. More chaff is eliminated, some players drop out, and you and your opponent get some rest for future rounds. And, since you now have fewer points than the absolute leaders, you're less likely to face them until the end anyway.
Speaking of which, is there a playoff scheduled, or is it the top 8 from the Swiss that get invited?
Edit x2: As of 2:29PM EST July 6, only 19 people have registered.
Dave | |
Knowledge Arcana editor issues 5-9, Phoenix Lore Magazine editor, assistant editor for Rite Publishing;
My Trade Thread and My Reference Thread; Winner of WBC IV, IX and XIII; Rule #0: bshugg is always right! | |
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Hero of Skirmish
doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 07/06/2005 3:48 PM |
| Alot of people end up just going into it the day of.
I know thats how it was last year.
Jesse | |
I am not gone. | |
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The Defenestrator
AesophDarkfable
Warlord
5628 Posts
| | 07/06/2005 5:58 PM |
| | Ok also add if you are one of the 19 preregistered for it. I am. | |
Im out- find me on Hordelings if you want to chat. | |
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PatEllis15
Commander
4463 Posts
| | 07/06/2005 11:08 PM |
| I am one of the 19, I believe that Striderlotr is as well.
Pat E | |
"Games evolve. Otherwise we'd still be pushing rocks around the dirt. What do you think the cavemen said when some dude showed up with sticks?" - Chairman7w | |
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Shivan Darkeyes
Warrior
266 Posts
| | 07/07/2005 1:15 PM |
| My friends and I are going to the Niles (Chicago) qualifier this weekend, if they don't qualify at least one of them is going to do the grinder.
I will not be in the grinder: I will be playing Magic :) | |
13th Place at the 2005 DDM Championship in GenCon | |
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Hero of Skirmish
doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 07/07/2005 1:52 PM |
| I'll be playing in the grinder.
Just kidding. | |
I am not gone. | |
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nycfarmkid
Underboss
1210 Posts
Wadsworth, OH
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The Defenestrator
AesophDarkfable
Warlord
5628 Posts
| | 07/08/2005 8:25 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by nycfarmkid
put me down as a maybe for the grinder. Will probably be there for it, along with a friend, but we haven't decided on playing in it yet. On another note, is angelfire going to be legal for the grinder?
yes | |
Im out- find me on Hordelings if you want to chat. | |
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10425 Posts
United States
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Lead Moderator
LCS
Underboss
1896 Posts
| | 07/09/2005 1:36 AM |
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http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mit/20050512a
quote:
This 200- point Constructed, Assault format tournament is open to all players who do not hold an invitation to the Championship, and will offer invitations to the top 8 finishers to the D&D Miniatures Championship the next day.
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10425 Posts
United States
| | 07/10/2005 10:22 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by LCS
This 200- point Constructed, Assault format tournament is open to all players who do not hold an invitation to the Championship, and will offer invitations to the top 8 finishers to the D&D Miniatures Championship the next day.
Sweet. | |
Knowledge Arcana editor issues 5-9, Phoenix Lore Magazine editor, assistant editor for Rite Publishing;
My Trade Thread and My Reference Thread; Winner of WBC IV, IX and XIII; Rule #0: bshugg is always right! | |
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10425 Posts
United States
| | 07/10/2005 11:02 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by AesophDarkfable
Alright this is just looking for an official, who at Maxminis is going to be in it list.
* pre-registered
So far I know:
AesophDarkfable*
PatEllis*
Rave0021
Striderlotr*
Possible:
ChristopherGroves friend
Vrecknidje
Nycfarmkid +friend
I'm going to register myself, my son, and my son's friend today. The three of us went to the Howell, MI qualifier and haven't been able to make any others. Additionally, a friend of mine who was also at Howell will be trying to sign up for the event on site.
So, you could put my entry as Vrecknidj + three friends.
Dave | |
Knowledge Arcana editor issues 5-9, Phoenix Lore Magazine editor, assistant editor for Rite Publishing;
My Trade Thread and My Reference Thread; Winner of WBC IV, IX and XIII; Rule #0: bshugg is always right! | |
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cooter926
Sneak
165 Posts
| | 07/10/2005 8:42 PM |
| i'm planning on it, as of this moment. getting there and finding a place to crash are my only problems at the moment...
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Succesfull trades: Lowix (wotc), Kaya Kenobi, Halstan (wotc), Spikegif x 2, minatoman38, sidious515 (wotc)
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Black Flame Zealot
Sneak
102 Posts
| | 07/10/2005 10:49 PM |
| | I'll probably pop by, since I was one of the judges last year. However, I have other Living Greyhawk commitments, and the only time I have off is on Sunday for the Limited Qualifier. :) | |
Living Greyhawk Circle
Iuz's Border States
DDM/SWM Organizer | |
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DaemonKain
Warrior
312 Posts
| | 07/11/2005 2:50 PM |
| | I'm now registered for the Grinder... | |
-DaemonKain
Proud Mascot of Team Amish | |
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orcmonk220
Underboss
1608 Posts
| | 07/11/2005 3:20 PM |
| | There will be two British Players - But one will now be me (as I'm rubbish). I'm training, but I know I'll lose. I reckon Alepulp will win. | |
My Trading Thread | |
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The Defenestrator
AesophDarkfable
Warlord
5628 Posts
| | 07/12/2005 12:26 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by orcmonk220
There will be two British Players - But one will now be me (as I'm rubbish). I'm training, but I know I'll lose. I reckon Alepulp will win.
Ill put you both on the list. | |
Im out- find me on Hordelings if you want to chat. | |
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10425 Posts
United States
| | 07/24/2005 2:39 PM |
| I wonder how many people "off the street" will sign up to play.
I wonder how many of them will be skilled at warband building, tile placement, and combat.
I wonder how many Angelfire bands we'll see.
I wonder how many people who've already qualified will be wandering around the room watching potential adversaries.
Dave | |
Knowledge Arcana editor issues 5-9, Phoenix Lore Magazine editor, assistant editor for Rite Publishing;
My Trade Thread and My Reference Thread; Winner of WBC IV, IX and XIII; Rule #0: bshugg is always right! | |
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orcmonk220
Underboss
1608 Posts
| | 07/24/2005 3:04 PM |
| | I wonder if there are any more questions that involve 'I wonder'? | |
My Trading Thread | |
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The Defenestrator
AesophDarkfable
Warlord
5628 Posts
| | 07/24/2005 7:02 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Vrecknidj
I wonder how many people "off the street" will sign up to play.
I wonder how many of them will be skilled at warband building, tile placement, and combat.
I wonder how many Angelfire bands we'll see.
I wonder how many people who've already qualified will be wandering around the room watching potential adversaries.
Dave
We will see alot of people off the street that are juyst playing because its there. They wont be that good at building, placement, combat etc. AF who knows, a decent chunk id say. I imagine people will be coming and going that have qualled. lot other stuff going on to do. | |
Im out- find me on Hordelings if you want to chat. | |
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The Defenestrator
AesophDarkfable
Warlord
5628 Posts
| | 07/28/2005 1:22 AM |
| Big Grinder news. They are taking top 16, not top 8.
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mit/20050728b | |
Im out- find me on Hordelings if you want to chat. | |
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Avatar of the Tank
Newtoncain
Commander
2985 Posts
Land of 10,000 taxes
| | 07/28/2005 6:45 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by AesophDarkfable
Big Grinder news. They are taking top 16, not top 8.
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mit/20050728b
Nice find AesophDarkfable[:)], too bad I can't practice in the grinder[:(]. | |
They just don't know what's good in life...Conan, tell them what is good in life.
To rip the boosters. To count the minis spilled out before you, and to hear the indifference of the women... | |
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Shivan Darkeyes
Warrior
266 Posts
| | 07/28/2005 11:13 AM |
| | Is the grinder using the "Fane of the Drow" or standard map setup? | |
13th Place at the 2005 DDM Championship in GenCon | |
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Wrackspawn
ChristopherGroves
Warlord
6093 Posts
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PatEllis15
Commander
4463 Posts
| | 07/28/2005 12:09 PM |
| I'm very happy to see this change (to 16), I just posted to the WotC boards to try to get confirmation.
This should help eliminate a bit of bad random luck from effecting the invites...
Pat E | |
"Games evolve. Otherwise we'd still be pushing rocks around the dirt. What do you think the cavemen said when some dude showed up with sticks?" - Chairman7w | |
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PatEllis15
Commander
4463 Posts
| | 07/28/2005 2:57 PM |
| quote:
Ian is aware of the thread. Investigations are happening...
Sounds like 16 was a mistake... we'll see if it gets retracted.
Pat E
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"Games evolve. Otherwise we'd still be pushing rocks around the dirt. What do you think the cavemen said when some dude showed up with sticks?" - Chairman7w | |
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The Defenestrator
AesophDarkfable
Warlord
5628 Posts
| | 07/28/2005 6:43 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by PatEllis15
quote:
Ian is aware of the thread. Investigations are happening...
Sounds like 16 was a mistake... we'll see if it gets retracted.
Pat E
mmm that sucks, got me excited. Everyone keep us updated if you hear anything. | |
Im out- find me on Hordelings if you want to chat. | |
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Pauper
Sergeant
508 Posts
| | 07/28/2005 8:15 PM |
| No grinder for me, at least not for this championship.
Gonna start focusing on the SoCal Championship, starting with this coming Saturday's sealed AF event at Outpost 2000. With any luck, I'll even be bringing a friend.
Good luck to all Maxminis and MN guys headed for the grinder and tourney!
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Pauper | |
Champion of the War Wizard of Cormyr | |
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The Defenestrator
AesophDarkfable
Warlord
5628 Posts
| | 07/28/2005 9:15 PM |
| According to Guy
"I have some preliminary info that suggests the web page which says "16" is incorrect and that it is in the process of being updated to "8"."
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Im out- find me on Hordelings if you want to chat. | |
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