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06/24/2006 4:13 PM  
Nobody got organized to post reports? Come on guys!

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06/24/2006 4:15 PM  
They would have barely just started the second round. I'm sure we'll hear something soon enough.

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06/24/2006 4:20 PM  
Ah. Fair enough. I assumed it would have started in the morning. Gonna be a long day for those guys.

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06/24/2006 4:36 PM  
Play started at noon so it's possible and likely it'll go until late this evening depending on how many players there were.

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06/24/2006 4:57 PM  
I'm pullin' for Venport and Klaman!! Come on fellas, take it home!

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06/24/2006 7:04 PM  
I had a chance to drop by around 2:30 pm to see how things were going. They were in the middle of the 3rd swiss round at that point. I'm sure they're into the 4th now. Here's how stuff stood after 2 swiss rounds:

36 players

2-0 players:
Darien Stupack: 3x Gith Monk; Young Master; 2x Sacred Watcher
Darsen Chen: 3x Slayer of Domiel; Village Priest
John Wang: War Troll; Rakshasa; Zak Rak
Jeff Asbury: 4x Gith Monk; Young Master
Paul Johnson: 2x Zak Rak; Human Blackguard; Chraal
Scott Schneider: Aspect of Kord; Arcane Ballista; Couatl; Cleric of Order
Glyn Dewey: 3x Justicator; Cleric of Dol Arrah
Kevin Cleveland: Marut; 3x Sacred Watcher; Couatl; Cleric of Yondalla
John Sugden: 4x Justice Archon; Couatl

Derry and Eric (doranur) were judging. Most of the bay area players were there. 9 folks from Sacramento were there. 5 from So Cal. These numbers may be off, because there were quite a few people there that I didn't know.

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06/24/2006 7:20 PM  
From the TO's desk:

Minis Breakdown
Timber Wolf 18
Sacred Watcher 17
Xeph Warrior 11
Frenzied Berserker 10
Man-at-Arms 10
Couatl 9
Graycloak Ranger 8
Githzerai Monk 7
Hill Dwarf Warrior 7
Justice Archon 7
Zakya Rakshasa 7
Aramil, Adventurer 5
Aspect of Kord 5
Devis,. Half-elf Bard 5
Helmed Horror 5
Inspiring Marshall 5
Orc Wardrummer 5
Warforged Scout 5
Wolf (minion) 5
Cleric of Order 4
Duergar Champion 4
Elf Warrior 4
Kobold Miner 4
Rikka, Angelic Avenger 4
Standard Bearer 4
Arcane Ballistae 3
Archmage 3
Dark Moon Monk 3
Death Sladd 3
Dwarf Artificer 3
Hill Giant Barbarian 3
Human Commoner 3
Justicator 3
Large Duergar 3
Marut 3
Orc Warrior 3
Quaggoth Slave 3
Slayer of Domiel 3
Abyssal Maw 2
Arcanix Guard 2
Aspect of Loth 2
Chraal 2
Clerc of Yondalla 2
Goblin Skirmisher 2
Goblin Skirmisher (minion) 2
Human Blackguard 2
Mialee,. Elf Wizard 2
Mounted Drow Patrol 2
Skeletal Legionnaire 2
Sword of Heironeous 2
Tiefling Captain 2
Warrior Skeleton 2
Xendrik Champion 2
Young Master 2
Aspect of Moradin 1
Beholder 1
Bladebearer Hobgoblin 1
Blood Ghost Berserker 1
Brass Samurai 1
Bugbear Champion of Erythnul 1
Cleric of Dol Arrah 1
Combat Medic 1
Crow Shaman 1
Dark Naga 1
Dire Rat 1
Drow Sergeant 1
Elf Pyromancer 1
Eye of Gruummsh 1
Flamebrother Salamander 1
Gauth 1
Gnoll 1
Goblin Warrior (minion) 1
Goliath Barbarian 1
Gravehound 1
Hyena 1
Inspired Lieutenant 1
Large Silver Dragon 1
Mind Flayer Telepath 1
Mounted Paladin 1
Myconid Guard 1
Orc Champion 1
Orc Raider 1
Orc Savage 1
Rakshasa 1
Ryld Argith 1
Shuluth, Archvillian 1
Snig the Axe 1
Sword Archon 1
Troglodyte Thug 1
Village Priest 1
War Troll 1
Warforged Bodyguard 1

Warband Breakdown
Lawful Good 16
Lawful Evil 7
Chaotic Good 8
Chaotic Evil 5

Undefeated after Round Three:
Elder Basilisk (Triple Justicator,CoDA) vs. Scott Schneider (Couatl, AoK, Arcane Ballista,CoO) Playing on Dragon Shrine
Jeff Asbury (Quad Monk) vs. Kevin Cleveland (Marut, Couatl,CoY,3xSW)
Playing on King's Road



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06/24/2006 7:50 PM  
Wow, nice breakdown on pieces. I always enjoy seeing the whole
list instead of just the top 4...doesn't always tell the tale,
especially when guys drop out late.

a couple of interesting notes....

more slayers of domiel and aspect of Lloths

then

orc champions
eyes of grumsh
shuluth
rak
sword archon
warforged bodyguards

very cool. Good luck to all!
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06/24/2006 8:10 PM  
Glad you enjoy the figure breakdown. Putting it together gave me something to do while Derry and Eric ran the floor. [}:)] Having good floor judges makes the head judge's job easy. [:D]

I'm surprised at the metagame for this event myself. I did not expect more CG bands than LE. Only one Dual HGB band showed up. Lots of interesting bands. Darsen is running Triple Slayer and Scott Collins brougt Dual Aspect of Loth.

Given the large number of LG bands, I too am surprised that there aren't more warforged bodyguards.

After round 4 Scott and Kevin are the only undfeated players left.

Only 3 more rounds to the top 4...

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06/24/2006 9:46 PM  
1. Kevin Cleveland (Kevizoid) Marut/Couatl/3 SW/CoY 5-0
2. Glen Dewey Triple Justicator/CoDA 4-1
3. Paul Johnson Human Blackguard/Chraal/2 DC/Zakya 4-1
4. Elliot IM/AM/2 Xen'driks 4-1
5. Scott Schnider Kord/Ballista 4-1
6. Stu Hill Kord/Brass Samurai/Aramil/CS/Goliath 4-1
7. Darian Stupack Gith/YM/2 SWs 4-1
8. Dwayne Stupack Archmage 3-2


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06/24/2006 9:49 PM  
Jesse, are those the Swiss finals?

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06/24/2006 10:03 PM  
quote:
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Jesse, are those the Swiss finals?

Not if they're really going 7 rounds like ahmish said.

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06/24/2006 10:05 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by Felagund

quote:
Originally posted by johnny.quest

Jesse, are those the Swiss finals?

Not if they're really going 7 rounds like ahmish said.



Thanks, the math eluded me on that one [)]
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06/24/2006 11:24 PM  
1. Scott Snyder 5-1 (Kord Ballista) vs.
2. Elliot Chin 5-1 (Archmage/Dual Xen'drik)
3. Glen Dewey 5-1 (Triple Justicator + CoDA) vs.
4. Darian Stupack 5-1 (Gith Monk + 2 SWs)
5. Kevin Cleveland 5-1 (MC/SW) vs.
6. Stu hill 4-2 (Brass Samura/Kord/CS/Goilath Barbarian
7. Darsen Chen 4-2 (Triple Slayer of Domiel)
8. Paul Johnson 4-2 (Blackguard, Chraal, Zakya, 2 Duergar Champions)

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06/24/2006 11:36 PM  
Update - Darien Stupack defeats Glyn Dewey to secure a spot in the final 4.


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06/24/2006 11:45 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by Felagund

quote:
Originally posted by johnny.quest

Jesse, are those the Swiss finals?

Not if they're really going 7 rounds like ahmish said.

To confirm, we are going to 7 swiss rounds ( we broke 33 players, which is the threshhold for 7 rounds ) At least the rounds have been reasonably tight. We should be done by 11pm PST.

Cheers.


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06/25/2006 12:00 AM  
Kevin Cleveland defeats Stu Hill to secure a spot in the top 4.
3 players with 6-1 records will make the top 4, one player with 5-2 will make the cut.


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06/25/2006 12:42 AM  
Top 4:
Scott vs. Kevin
Darien vs. Elliot

SoCal qualifies three more players...


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06/25/2006 12:46 AM  
Alright Elliot, represent Norcal (Endgame/Game Kastle). Woohoo!


edit: adding GK as they rock as well or so I have heard. I will get my sorry a$$ down that way sometime even if I do suck. [:P]

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06/25/2006 12:48 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by Grasshoff

Top 4:
Scott vs. Kevin
Darien vs. Elliot

Way to go, guys!

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06/25/2006 1:34 AM  
Single elim update: Darien (YM,Gith) defeats Elliot (IM,Archmage)to advance to the finals.

Kevin's match with Scott is wrapping up. Another update coming soon.


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06/25/2006 1:42 AM  
This is the end my beautiful friend, the end.

Scott defeats Kevin. Darien drops. Scott wins. Congrats!

Thanks everyone for coming to the qualifier. See you at WOTDQ pre-release next week.

On to dinner and bubbly beverages at last at 10:41 PST.


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06/25/2006 2:03 AM  
I got worked. 2-5. No report before Monday probably, if I do one.

I played hill giants. Bad matchups, some play mistakes, and bad luck on morale checks (In the end I made 5 out of 12, only one of which was at less than a 55% for success, most were at +14) pretty much sealed my fate. Definitely got outplayed in a couple matches. Oh well!

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06/25/2006 2:50 AM  
Final Results direct from the Derry Queen.

1st: Scott Snyder 6-2
2nd: Darine Stupack 7-1
3rd: Kevin Cleveland 6-2
3rd: Elliot Chin 6-2

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06/25/2006 3:07 AM  
I went 5-2. My tie-breaks were not so hot though -- I finished 8th. I had been hoping to reach 50% so this was better than I had hoped.

I ran:
Ryld Argith, Frenzied Berserker x2, Graycloak Ranger, Aramil, Devis, Wolf, Elf Warrior, Xeph Warrior on Dragon Shrine.

I suspect I had more than my fair share of luck overall (2 of IanB's aforementioned failed morales were against me). My 2 losses were to:
Tried (Archmage, Inspiring Marshall, Rikka), and
jgsugden (Justice Archon x4, Couatl)

Huge thanks to derry, doranur and ahmish for judging and congratulations to the 4 qualifiers.

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06/25/2006 4:04 AM  
Whew! That was tough. I had hoped I would make top 4 but I honestly didn't expect to do so. I had a fair amount of great luck during my run.

EDIT: Oops. Forgot to mention: I played Archmage+Dual Xendriks.

Match timeline
0-1 LE mixed (Rak, Zak, WarT, dual Large Duergars)
1-1 LG Kord/Couatl/Ballista
2-1 CG Triple Frenzied
3-1 LE Quad Zakyas
4-1 LG Triple Slayer of Domiel
5-1 LE mixed (2xDuergar Champs, Zak, Chraal, Blackguard)
6-1 LG Kord/Couatl/Ballista
6-2 LG GAS (triple monks, YM, 2xWatchers)

Some interesting tidbits:

I lost my first match against John W's LE mixed band. I got suckered into going for his War Troll very aggressively, when I should have been more patient and tried to find easier points elsewhere from behind a wall of blockers.

But luckily, I won my next 6 games to finish 6-1.

I lost map init my first two games and went 1-1.

I won map init the final 6 games of the tournament (including in the final 4), and went 5-1.

I should have lost to Triple Frenzied, but Devis managed to confuse a Frenzied and my Timber Wolf stunned one. Kings Road really saved me there.

Devis never used countersong.

I managed to keep my Archmage out of harms way for most of the tourney. As a result, he only had to make a morale check in 2 out of the 8 games (vs the first LE band and then against Darien's GAS). I passed both checks.

GAS is a terrible matchup, even with the Kings Road map. Dwayne and I were talking and we feel it could be the one band that actually gets harder to beat on the Archmage's preferred map. My Xendriks need 16s to hit a Gith Monk in the woods!

In my final game, I made some mistakes. And Darien capitalized on them. Archmage is a band that requires you to be totally on top of your game. However, even despite my errors, as it was, my AM failed a stun save (en route to getting battered by two unavoidable strikes. That was pretty much game.

The Xendriks did great. I don't think I would have qualified had I played the Rikka variant. Magic dmg on them and their ability to either snipe away or drop 15 dmg on pieces in melee was key against many of my matchups.

GameKastle ran a great event. Matt and the store always treat us well.

All my opponents were good players and excellent sports.

I played two players from SoCal, two from Sactown, one from Fresno, and three locals. Thanks to all my opponents for the enjoyable games. [:)]

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06/25/2006 4:09 AM  
Oh, I ran the expected. Archmage, Rikka, Inspiring Marshal, Graycloak x2, Xeph Warrior x2, Devis, Timber Wolf x2 Map: Kings Road

I got my map once, and won on it, other than that I never got my map.

1-0 Sacred Marut <- Utter beadown..no comment
1-1 War Troll, Zakya, Rakshasa, 2x Large Duergar <- Lost by 8 pts..grawr, damn wolf.
1-2 Eye, Orc Champ, 2x Mounted Drow <- Archmage routed, stupid dual MDP's ruined my day!
1-3 4x Helmed Horror, DDM, Timber <- Lost Rikka, map, and every init. Horribly matchup.
2-3 Shuluth, DC x2, HH, DMM <- Got map, utter beatdown, nuff said.
3-3 Rikka Snake Eyes, Sacred Watcher, Aramil (Instead of 3rd JA) <- Very wavy results, I was up earlier then he was, then I was..etc.
4-3 Beholder, Gauth, Dark Naga <- Lost map, lost side, was 9 rounds of who can get tiles and peg units without risking my Archmage to the Beholder. Graycloaks did over 35 + 15 + 15 + 30 + 5 + 5 + 5 = 110 damage over the course of the game.

More detailed reports to come. Overall im happy, I came out with a posative record, didnt qualifiy, but hey, Grinder baby..

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06/25/2006 4:15 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by Aravis

Final Results direct from the Derry Queen.

1st: Scott Snyder 6-2
2nd: Darine Stupack 7-1
3rd: Kevin Cleveland 6-2
3rd: Elliot Chin 6-2

Hm, those win/loss records can't possibly be correct (or was there a drop?), but I'll assume that the placement is correct.

Scott, looks like your strategy of not playing against Gith Monks worked out pretty well for you! Congrats!

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06/25/2006 4:21 AM  
The win loss records are correct for the entire tournament, including the post-swiss single elimination matches.

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06/25/2006 5:15 AM  
There was a drop yes. I dont know the full details because I didnt want to watch the finals. Had other places to go at 10..haha. Knowing them they are probably all eating "breakfast" (yes thats a joke for you Derry).

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06/25/2006 5:42 AM  
just wanna say congrats to all the folks who qualified, especially the socal folks who traveled a couple hundred miles to dominate a tournament on someone else's home ground, way to go guys!

also a big thanks to game kastle who provided excellent prize support, and to matt who had to make all the rough decisions this tourney. good job guys, you represent the community well.

now lets hurry up and get to next saturday so i can play!

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06/25/2006 5:44 AM  
I placed 6th (5-2)in this tournament and was satisfied with the way I played. My band was

4x Gith Monks
1x Young Master
1x Aramil adventurer
1x Hill Dwarf Warrior
1x Man At Arms

Map: King's road
Match 1 Win

First Match I Went up against Mike Domezio who was playing Couatl, kord, bodyguard. We played on his map drow outpost but I was able to eliminate his bodyguard fairly quickly and also brought a monk around back to get some autodamage and base the couatl. It was down hill from there for the kord.

Match 2 Win

This was vs Drake's triple frenzied with inspiring marshal. I decided to let the frenzieds come to me and tried to get them with autodamage. Unfortunatly they made 7 out of the first 8 stun saves but luckily the dice evened out in my favor and drake missed some key attack rolls. Young master got creamed pretty quickly by the FBs but I had already done enough damage and was eventually able to wipe them out.

Match 3 Win

I played this round vs John Sugden's (jgsugden) Justice for all 4x justice archon band. It was a bad matchup for him no doubt about it. We played on dragon shrine and I took the lower victory area near the exit and waited for him to come to me. He eventually did and it was a stun fest.

Match 4 Loss

This was vs Kevin Cleaveland and his Marut/Couatl/Sacred Watchers. I though my best bet was to bide my time on kings road and wait in the forest for my chance to strike. On round 3 I moved out doing autodamage to kill the standard barer and put 60 damage on the Marut. Kevin was able to do a hit and then another hit using the snake swiftness on my YM who was hiding in the trees in response. The next round 1 monk was routed but I was able to take down the marut. unfortunately the couatl with its sonic orbs and those hard to his SWs were able to lead me around until Kevin was able to get one more monk and win on points

Match 5 Loss

Played Stu Hill's Kord/brass Sam/ Crow shaman/ Goliath Barb

I made a mistake early in this game with positioning and by round 2 kord ran up and with a hit and then a snake’s swiftness he took out my YM before any of my monks were able to use any stunning attacks. I responded by stunning the shaman the kord and the sam. after unstunning Stu was able to rout off 1 monk with a kord hit and I sent the brass sam running but she rallied before running off. When the same came back the kord got off a whirlwind to hit my monks and I was in trouble. I was eventually able to kill kord and get the sam down to 15 but stu still wiped out my monks on won.

Match 6 Win

I played Paul's SWarm on king’s road. I decided to move my monks into the woods and wait for the SWarm to come to me. Once the ghosts and monks were whiffing it out in the woods Paul brought up the sword archon and I pulled off a monk to do auto damage to the archon and the next round was able to kill it using another monk. The rest of the match was just a bunch of misses with monks and sacred watchers trying to hit each other in the trees. Eventually the monks won this battle after quite a few rounds.

Match 7 Win

I played Jake's CE Quad variation using eye/orc champ/ and two MDPs . I moved 1 monk up early on to the kings road shared victory area and a MDP ran up and crited it. That was just about Jake's only good roll. I killed the tiefling cpt quickly with autodamage and Jake missed most of his stun saves and conceded eventually after I was able to wipe out a MDP and had orc champ and eye stunned with eye down to 10.

There were alot of good players in this tornament and i think everyone i had a chance to play against and thanks to gamekastle for putting on a great event

-Jeff





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06/25/2006 10:23 AM  
You let two kids in top 4 AND let SoCal invade successfully? pshah. NorCal must suck. [:p]

Congrats, everybody! That's a lot of people to have to mow through to win.

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06/25/2006 11:16 AM  
Amazing. Sounds like an awesome tourney. I'm sorry that Jr. and I missed it.

What a great variety of warbands. It's very encouraging to see the rock-paper-scissors theory in practice so successfully.

Congratulations everybody!!!

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06/25/2006 11:23 AM  
Congrats to all the finalists! Big props to Darien and Kevin for qualifying two years in a row at such grueling qualifiers!

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06/25/2006 11:31 AM  
The mix of different warbands looks awesome!


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06/25/2006 4:49 PM  
Congratulations to everyone who qualified! See you at GenCon!

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06/25/2006 4:50 PM  
What a good day being my frist Qual... and playing a warband that i put together at 3:30am thursday night (I guess that;s friday morning) I think i did very well... 4-3 is not bad... i wis i could have played the maurt band or the Swarm because that would have been good stuff.

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06/25/2006 5:36 PM  
Way to go Kevin!! Glad youare in... see you at the Con!

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06/25/2006 6:13 PM  
Thanks Mark, I found out before the tournament that I would have been in on rating anyways (23rd going into it). I'll write up a tourny report a bit later. See you at GenCon! =)

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