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alepulp Underboss
 1529 Posts



 Manchester, England
 | | 05/29/2007 2:24 AM |
| Jan Elfman from Belgium - often seen online on Vassal
21 players - very high quality.
top 4 were
Jan Elfman 5-1 (loss to Alepulp) Gruumsh 5-1 (loss to Jan Elfman) Alepulp 5-1 (loss to Janos M) Janos M 4-2 (losses to Jan Elfman and Gruumsh)
well done Jan!!!! | | One of these days WoTC will update their tournament page when I'm in the top 5... they never seem to do when I'm in that bracket :( My Collection My DDM Website And My Trade Refs Be a part of the UK DDM Forum
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| superman75 Skirmisher
 11 Posts




 | | 05/29/2007 3:27 AM |
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| GRUUMSH Skirmisher
 14 Posts




 | | 05/29/2007 4:37 AM |
| I am sure the details will filter through the coming days but since I am on the run to get some stuff done I only want to leave this short message: Congrats Jan Elfman...very strong performance...and I must admit, in our match up, I was already hanging in the ropes after round two. You went through my warband like a knife through butter
Ps.: Before I forget I really want to thank Peter scott (Alepulp) and Kristine (from Hasbro) for the time and effort they put into making this event possible. I had a blast and was positively surprised by the amount of players showing up.
I'll chime in later (when I've more time) with some more details.
Greetz, GRUUMSH | | | |
| LSD Ruler Skirmisher
 35 Posts




 | | 05/29/2007 5:55 AM |
| First of all: Congratz Jan!!! Fantastic performance... As far as I remember Jan played: Ultroloth, Chraal, Duergar Champ, Dragonmark + Bat, Snig + Sniglettes I don`t know exactly because our match in round 1 was over too soon...  Gruumsh played Frenzy, Wemic Barbarian, Insp. Marshal, Gnome Trickster + Filler Alpulp the same band as at the Germans: Couatl, Ballista, CoO, Shield Guardian, etc. Janos tried a Ultroloth + 3x Chraal- Band and he did very well (thanks to the invisibiliity-spell from the Duergar Slaver and his good playing)...
And for the LSD? I played same band as in Germany but I changed the map to Thieves Quarter. I played only two matches on it (2nd and 5th) 10th with 3-3 (incl. one bye)... First match vs. Jan: no chance, because I didn`t knew about the "stack-rule" for the Resist Energy-Spell and I became vulnerable to fire again, after the bat delivered the touchspell. 60 damage from the Ultroloth were the begining of the end...
Second match vs. Erik (don`t know the nick- or lastname): he played Storm with Charger, 2x War Wizard, Bralani and fodder very quickly it was my LSD + Dragonmark vs. his band... with one round left Erik was 7 (!!!) points in front and I wasn`t able to kill Storm, so I lost due to Victory points, damn...
Third match vs. another Erik: Ulmo Swarm short story, with lots off unluck I lost (the LSD routed cowardly, 1...) the match...
Fourth match bye I needed it hardly, to regenerate myself and calm down...
Fifth match vs Luigi: Tiefling Captain and Warlock, Blackspawn, Magma Hurler, Doomguard, fodder Cones and high AC of the LSD finished him off...
Last match vs. Joris: Ultroloth, 2x Duergar Champ, Hellcat, Canoloth, Kobold Monk tough match, but with 5 points left the LSD was victorious...
conclusion: the LSD has earnd his retirement hardly. Two tourneys within the top ten is respectable and I can satisfied try something new ( be warned the LGD is comin`to get you!)... | | | |
| SYB Warrior
 328 Posts




 | | 05/29/2007 6:40 AM |
| @LSD - I don't get it, the "stack-rule" says that the target gets to choose which effect he will keep when the second spell is applied. Why didn't you just choose to keep protection from fire?
-SYB | | | |
| LSD Ruler Skirmisher
 35 Posts




 | | 05/29/2007 8:06 AM |
| | I gave an Immune fire to the LSD and one round later Jan`s Bat casted an immune cold on the LSD. So, only the second spell aplied and I lost immune fire. That`s what`s the judge (and Alepulp) said, so I belive it´s correct. To bad I didn`t knew this rule before... | | | |
| Dordledum Commander
 3187 Posts



 Netherlands
 | | 05/29/2007 8:18 AM |
| Very happy with the turn-out! I expected 10 people, and we had 21! Breakup as follows: 6 Dutch, 7 Flemish, 4 Walonians (sp?), 3 Germans and 1 Englishman
Jan was playing marvelous, and earned a lot of respect. I didn't face him myself, but have seen him play. I ended up 8th myself, by going 4-2. Am very pleased with the result.
My warband: Storm, VirtCharger, Bralani, CWWx2, xephx2, Jozan (yes, Stefan, I was your 1st Erik) My map: Kings Road
My match-ups:
First match: Loss vs an up and coming dutch player whose name I forgot (shame). Played his 3rd match ever and he beat me fair and square (he ended up 9th IIRC). He played CE: Ryld, Large Blackx2, Thrall, and Orc Warriors. My dice weren't working for me and my opponent played very well and rolled an average of 15+ on die-rolls. I can't remember what map we used.
Second Match: Win vs LSD-Ruler (Stefan). Toughest match of the day. I feared this warband, because I knew it's potential. The guy didn't end up 4th in german nationals for nothing. I think his map (thieves quarter) worked to my advantage, I could take out all his activations except the LSD quite fast, and it was hit-and-run from there on. I kept scoring Victory Area Points, and ended up 7 points ahead, with his LSD at 70 hp. Still thrilling to think back on that match.
Third Match: Loss vs Marcel (I don't know his screen name, am not sure if his name was Marcel to be honest, another German, he ended 7th). He played Storm as well, but with shadow dancers. Pretty even match-up, played on my map. I was up on front about 30-35 vps, but made a stupid mistake in the end by playing too aggresively in the last round. I wanted to kill something and moved my Storm forward with only 15 hp left. I should have pulled her back and let her heal herself. But I didn't, she got killed and I lost. I still hate myself for doing it. match ended in 40 minutes, so at least I had a few minutes to have lunch.
Fourth Match: Win vs Llarbal (Paul). My weekly DDM sparring partner, almost allways plays CE. This time he played: Tiefling Captain, Thrall, HGB, Large Black, Orc Warriors. he won map init (Hellspike). He made a few mistakes (he was hungry I guess), and the dice weren't in his favour. I didn't make any obvious mistakes and won quite easily. Losing a moral save with his HGB didn't help him either.
Fifth Match: Win vs Eelco (don't know if he has a screen name). He played LG, with dual commanders (Excorsist Silver Flame, Paladin of Torm, Gith Monk, Xorn, and a few other pieces). I won map init and my warband was a lot stronger. Speed 4 combined with autodamage killed his warband.
Sixth Match: Win vs Charles the Ghoul (Erwin), playing with Inspiring Marshal, Wemic, Gnome Trickster, Frenzied Berserker, Laldabode, Xeph and timber wolf. He won map-init and we were condemned to teleport temple. Thank god Paul and I had practised on this map. We had a very slow start, with a 20-30 score on Victory Area points after 3 rounds. From the fourth round onward I was able to kill off his Wemic, Inspiring Marshal, and Frenzied Beserker, in that order I believe. I was pretty far up on victory points when he took down my Storm, so that didn't matter any more. He conceded after I took out Laldabode as well
Autodamage saved my day. My 2 fearless War Wizards won me my matches. It was a great tournament, and I think everyone enjoyed himself (or herself in the case of Kristine).
D. | | Member of the Bearded Devils Champion of the Huge Spider (WotDQ 46/60), A New Umber Hulk (DoDe 57/60), and Hardcopy Printed DDM 2.0 Stat-Cards for all Minis! | |
| SYB Warrior
 328 Posts




 | | 05/29/2007 8:45 AM |
| @LSD - Alepulp ruled incorrectly. According to the DDM Errata & FAQ:
Spells such as protection from energy, resist energy, and specified energy adaptation allow the caster to choose a different ongoing effect each time the spell is cast. Even though the ongoing effect can be different from that of an earlier casting, it still doesn't stack with an earlier casting of the same spell on the same target. If one of these spells is cast twice on the same target, the target decides (at the time of the casting) whether to keep the effects of the original casting or to replace them with the effects of the new casting.
I don't know if that would have won you the game (Ultroloth can nerf the LSD pretty hard just by casting Ray of Enfeeblement), but it probably would have made the game closer.
-SYB | | | |
| Dordledum Commander
 3187 Posts



 Netherlands
 | | 05/29/2007 9:00 AM |
| Posted By GRUUMSH on 05/29/2007 8:57 AM Just one small errata of no real importance: Dordledum played his last match against "Charles the Ghoul" (Erwin) who was playing a warband very similar to mine
Greetz, GRUUMSH Sorry Erik,Â
I haven't spoken you guys online enough to know who is who,
Erik (D.)
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| GRUUMSH Skirmisher
 14 Posts




 | | 05/29/2007 9:04 AM |
| Posted By Dordledum on 05/29/2007 9:00 AM Posted By GRUUMSH on 05/29/2007 8:57 AM Just one small errata of no real importance: Dordledum played his last match against "Charles the Ghoul" (Erwin) who was playing a warband very similar to mine
Greetz, GRUUMSH Sorry Erik, I haven't spoken you guys online enough to know who is who, Erik (D.) No problem at all...it was just a minor detail
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| alepulp Underboss
 1529 Posts



 Manchester, England
 | | 05/29/2007 9:23 AM |
| Hmm - I'd seen something else in that statement... oh well - LSD, my apologies. I do, however, also think that at -5 dmg it wouldn't have mattered, but would have been less speedy. I'd not seen the statement about the target chosing...
I really should learn not to play and help judge... I had the errata printed out - in a judging situation that would have been looked up. Henk still did a sterling job judging though. | | One of these days WoTC will update their tournament page when I'm in the top 5... they never seem to do when I'm in that bracket :( My Collection My DDM Website And My Trade Refs Be a part of the UK DDM Forum
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| Knight of the Round Table Thenameless Warlord
 9034 Posts



 The Fortress of Solitude
 | | 05/29/2007 9:54 AM |
| | Oh well. Live and learn. Now you're a better judge for your next tournament. | | Over 270 successful online DDM trades. | |
| Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
 7146 Posts



 Idaho. Yes, we have Gamers in Idaho.
 | | 05/29/2007 9:55 AM |
| Congrats to all who played!
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| ManoVega Sneak
 108 Posts




 | | 05/29/2007 10:39 AM |
| How did the shirts work out for you, Alepulp?
| | Mano Vega | |
| GRUUMSH Skirmisher
 14 Posts




 | | 05/29/2007 11:25 AM |
| Posted By alepulp on 05/29/2007 9:23 AM Hmm - I'd seen something else in that statement... oh well - LSD, my apologies. I do, however, also think that at -5 dmg it wouldn't have mattered, but would have been less speedy. I'd not seen the statement about the target chosing... I really should learn not to play and help judge...  I had the errata printed out - in a judging situation that would have been looked up. Henk still did a sterling job judging though.
Henk did a great job indeed. Although he didn't have much D&D experience he kept everything under control. Too bad a mistake was made...but things like that happen.
The other option for the tournament would have been to let "Alepulp" be judge...but then he wouldn't have been able to play. As it is, I am happy he played cause it gives something extra to the event.
Greetz, GRUUMSH | | | |
| Yerf Skirmisher
 1 Posts




 | | 05/29/2007 11:31 AM |
| Very interesting to see another European tourney so soon after the German Nationals - I can't wait to see the full results, with warbands, maps and all. It sure seems the warbands played held some surprises in store! Congrats to all who played, and especially to Jan, of course!
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| GRUUMSH Skirmisher
 14 Posts




 | | 05/29/2007 12:16 PM |
| I can at least give you my warband that earned me second place Inspiring Marshall, Frenzied berserker, Wemic, Gnome trickster, Mialee, xeph, two graycloacks with wolves (one wolf and one timber wolf). I played on the teleport map. Jan's warband was something like: Ulthroloth, duergar champ, Chraal, dragonmarked heir, Snig + sniglets, bat, greenspawn sneak and another gobo skirmisher I think. 11 acts on the drow outpost. He completely trashed me in round three
Greetz, GRUUMSH | | | |
| Jan Elfman Skirmisher
 3 Posts




 | | 05/29/2007 12:20 PM |
| let's see... my band was: Ultroloth, chraal, DHoD, duergar champ, snig +3 gob shirm, greenspawn sneak, bat familiar and gob shirm (total 199 pts) map: Drow Outpost first game: VS LSD with LSD, DHoD, CoO,... won map, don't know about side init first round nothing really happend second round LSD started: LSD flou in and breath cold on duerg, bodyguard and some little guys (snig +1 minion) then my turn: bat immune cold on LSD so lose immune fire (i though that there come a rule out with bloodwar or something that the first spell is replaced by ur first spell when you cast the same spell on the same creature, doesn't matter if you can choose another effect with the same spell) LSD take 140 dmg from dubble scorch, crit flank charge of duerg and hits of bodyguar with flanking thrith round: i win init and finishes off LSD with scorch still well played Second game: (sorry for forgetting ur name, not really good at remmembering name's) that was a close on VS Ryld, 2 MDP, 2 sting l, deep dragon, ... won map init and side init (that was it for my inits then, lost the rest, i think) second round:lose init, dragon use cone on snig, DHoD and duerg... killed 1 mounted (don't know much about it, i was to focussed on the game to remember everything) and dragon routed after awayl duerg die and second drow patr followed . ryld came in and DHoD died pritty quick aftr that ultroloth MC: i rolled a 2 then i needed a 3 but next round Ultro rallied and come bck the round after that, chraal killed ryld and ultro finished off the dragon who rallied befor game finished, Well Played Thrith game: VS Erik Pede (Gruumsh)Belgian !!! band: Frenzi, wemic, IM, tricky, 2 gray and xeph map: teleport lucky won map init and side init then lost init:had to begin first moved all little guys (activations 9 for Erik, 11 for me) Erik made he's band inv 1 wolf moved to vic area second round i won init and begon: chraal was next to wolf, attatted and pass conc 11 with second att and wolf ran off Erik moved xeph next to green on he's vic area (still inv) green atts twice and hits the second 1 second inv wolf moves on other vic area... after 3 or 4 rounds frenzi came nex to green on vic area (still inv) and wemic close to chraal (1 square between, still inv) used att atts of chraal and duerg on frenzi (frenzi gets to 5 hp), chraal gets pushed by tricky, grant move, wemic and frenzi next to ultro me turn body takes aoo from frenzi and takes 30 dmg, frenzi became visible and body atts frenz deathstrike missed ultro (+14+2 flank VS ac 21) then wemic atts hits ones (ultro takes the dmg) last round: in init and ultro and chraal do full att wemic runs game over: Well Played Erik and congrats with second place forth game: VS Roger (Janos) Ultro, 3 chraal, duerg slaver, skel w and legion map: waterfall lost map init and side init lost first (think so but not sure) nothing happend just moved closer second round: think i won init, chraal moves true waterfall (has immune fire from bodyguard) and blocks the other chraals from moving in to cone my guys began to first lost almost all inits from this point on, at the end my utro was at 25 hp with chraal at 75 and he's ultro died with 1 chraal still standing that was a really fun game to play and not easy to win, went really fast without really making mistakes, well roger thx for coming from Germany and Well Played fifth game: think is was VS Erik (a dutch player) 3 bluespawn storms, snig+3 skir, talon,... won map and side init second round: chraal coned 1 blue, snig and talon snig ran, blue saves ultro scorch and quick c another on blue, MC (6+3) he ran of at once, duerg came in and ran bck away for 1 round my little guys died (a little shocked by the elec link), 1 blue was killed by DHoD with flanking and other blue and talon where killed by chraal, ultro and duerg when he came bck chraal was at 20 hp, ultro about 50 (don't really know), DHoD around 20 to 30 hp and duerg 30 hp left at the end Well Player Last Gameand sixth: VS Peter (Alepulp)band: CoC, Couatl, Balista, Shield guard, mialee, 2 wolfs,... map: Dragondown Grotto lost map init, won side init first init: lost so i begon little guys got shocked and shot the first round second round chraal moved next to wolf on vic area at the top, and DHoD, duerg and ultro moved closer to balista (in forest cover) next round: chraal atts wolf (rolls a 2 then a 1), moved DHoD and duerg moved next to shield, ultro scorch on shield (5 dmg) next round duerg dead, snig dead and DHoD dies (and bat with DHoD) chraal atts wolf and hits, wolf ran ultro moves next to balista chraal and ultro keep fighting but it was pretty hopeless for me congrats with ur thirth place and Well Played thx to everyone, but aspecially thx to Peter (Alepulp) and Kristine (of WotC) for the organizing of the event (my English is not so good, so sorry for mistake with me writing, if you see any) Greetings, Jan Elfman | | | |
| Jan Elfman Skirmisher
 3 Posts




 | | 05/29/2007 12:26 PM |
| my parents asked if there was a site where you can look at the pictures ??
Gr ,Ja Elfman | | | |
| Charles de Ghoul Skirmisher
 2 Posts




 | | 05/29/2007 2:31 PM |
| Congrats Jan Elfman and GRUUMSH !!!!
21 players was a great turn out . Ended with 2-4 and a 15th place myself .
Played IM , Wemic , FB , Living Flaming Sphere , Gnome Trickster , Ialdabode TW and Xeph on Teleport .
A speciale thanks to Alepulp for all the effort he puts in the European DDM scene and to Kristin ( Hasbro ) and PS games for organising this event .
Cheers, Charles de Ghoul
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| alepulp Underboss
 1529 Posts



 Manchester, England
 | | 05/29/2007 3:41 PM |
| They're beautiful - one is one the way to you - but only once I have an even more exciting item - a 25mm mini of "Angel", your Succubus  | | One of these days WoTC will update their tournament page when I'm in the top 5... they never seem to do when I'm in that bracket :( My Collection My DDM Website And My Trade Refs Be a part of the UK DDM Forum
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| alepulp Underboss
 1529 Posts



 Manchester, England
 | | 05/29/2007 3:47 PM |
| Posted By Jan Elfman on 05/29/2007 12:26 PM my parents asked if there was a site where you can look at the pictures ??
Gr ,Ja Elfman I will ask Kristin - she took a LOT  | | One of these days WoTC will update their tournament page when I'm in the top 5... they never seem to do when I'm in that bracket :( My Collection My DDM Website And My Trade Refs Be a part of the UK DDM Forum
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| LSD Ruler Skirmisher
 35 Posts




 | | 05/30/2007 2:30 AM |
| Posted By alepulp on 05/29/2007 9:23 AM Hmm - I'd seen something else in that statement... oh well - LSD, my apologies. I do, however, also think that at -5 dmg it wouldn't have mattered, but would have been less speedy. I'd not seen the statement about the target chosing... I really should learn not to play and help judge...  I had the errata printed out - in a judging situation that would have been looked up. Henk still did a sterling job judging though.
No problem Peter, I`m not angry with you or Hank. It`s like in a soccer match: If the Ref blows it`s off-side... Â But I also think I could have make live a little bit harder to Jan... | | | |
| Mandavar Sneak
 63 Posts



 Germany
 | | Sir O.J. Skirmisher
 2 Posts



 Belgium
 | | 05/30/2007 5:45 AM |
| Congratulations Jan Elfman and GRUUMSH !
Go Belgium ! | | "He will brave the battle boldly, even though he may not win ..." | |
|  Vrecknidj Warlord
 10288 Posts


 United States
 | | 05/30/2007 6:10 AM |
| Congrats to the top 4--excellent players there.
Sirohk, do you want to add any of these details to your qualifier data? Just to have it available, that is. Independently of whether a particular game actually is a qualifier, during qualifier season, it's good to see how the meta is shifting.
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| Janos M. Underboss
 1015 Posts



 Hamburg / GErmany
 | | 05/30/2007 7:42 AM |
| Congrats again to Jan and Erik you're both great players! Hopefully you don't come to the European, so that I have "only" to beat the Italian...
Here's my short report to my Warband: Ultroloth, Duergar Slaver, 3xChraal, Skeletal Legionnaire, Skeleton Warrior on Dragon Cliff Lair
Round 1: My opponent played 3x Bluespawn Stormlizards, Hobgoblin Talon of Tiamat, Kobold Sorcerer, Snig + Snigglets, Greenspawn Sneak, Hobgoblin Warrior on Hailstorm Tower He won map ini and I won side. We both advanced while I sent one Chraal into the Tower, while two others went the long way around. He answerd 1on1 with his Lizards. I got the 2nd Initiatives and dropped a breath weapon on a Lizard, Greenspawn, Hobgoblin and Talon. He failed all saves. I went with my Skeleton to the VA to get me some points. He dropped his lines on my Chraal while I made my saves. Two Breath Weapons later his whole warband was dead or routing.
Round 2: Llarbal with HBG, Thrall, LBD, Tiefling Captain, Hunting Hyena, Skeleton Warrior, 2x Orc Warrior on Market Square. He won map initiative while I won Side and first ini. That allowed me to begin and place a Chraal in his VA to make sure he don't get VP from round 1, while I wasn't. He advanced his figures to kill that Chraal easily. I lost the second Initaitive and the HBG hit the Chraal for 30 an Orc missed it. I coned his Dragon (made his save) and the lonely Warrior. My skeleton moved to flank the HBG and he missed it wis his Skeleton and Hyena. I breathed on the HBG (made the save) and the Hyena. The thrall moved in and attacked my damaged Chraal but missed. The Chraal breathed on the HBG (made the save) and Thrall (failed). His Dragon got the line off on two Chraals and the Slaver, which routed. My Ultroloth casted two scorching rays on the Thrall. I won next initiative and finished the Thrall with another scorching Ray. The HBG and Dragon attacked the damaged Chraal and hit him for another 30. I made morale and the Slaver rallied. My Chraals based his Dragon and made some damage to him. His Tiefling went into flanking my damaged Chraal. Next round I won ini again and killed the Tiefling as well as an enfeeble on the HBG. The Dragon and HGB missed as well as my Chraals. From there on I hit 1 out of two attacks, while both of his hitters only managed to get 1 out of 5. Later on his Dragon died and the HBG ran away.
Round 3: Peter Scott with his Ballista build. He won map ini and I won side initiative. I chose the side which let me get a Chraal on the middle VA. That one became Invisible. He buffed his figures while I stayed in the forest giving him no chance to shot something. On Round 2 my Ultroloth went from one save position to another and killed his wolf with the Quickcast on the way. He killed my Legionnaire with Mialee's MM He wasn't able to get VP so I was ahead by 11. In the next round he advanced his Couatl and CWW while I stayed behind my forest. His TimberWolf went to his VA. But my last activation, one of the visible Chraals, breathed on the Wolf and killed it denying him another round of VP. But now it was a target for the Ballista. We rolled next initiative and I won that one. My Chraal moved back into safety. His CWW lined on his Couatl and got the Slaver and one Chraal, both failing there saves. The Slaver made morale. I activated it and ran away. The damaged Chraal stepped back so the Couatl has to cast his sonic on him instead on the Slaver. He flew to me and fire the sonic orb. The Chraal made his morale as well. I got another round of VP and was ahead by 36. He won initiative next round and killed the Slaver. His Shield Guardian attacked the invisible Chraal and hit it. I ran to my other VA to threat his Ballista. The CWW moved further and lined a Chraal. Ultroloth stepped on the slope and slit down next to the CWW and attacked it. He was now a target for the Ballista and he took the shot but missed. We rolled the last initiaitve and he won it. His Ballista failed again and The Ccouatl dropped another sonic orb on the Ultroloth. I killed his CWW and got the win.
the next three rounds will come later today.
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| LSD Ruler Skirmisher
 35 Posts




 | | 05/30/2007 2:36 PM |
| Posted By Mandavar on 05/30/2007 4:34 AM Sadly I could not play against Stefan and his LSD. Would be a great match! But certainly there will be a next time ... (Manchester ?!)
I think I will not go to Manchester... Not because I am a coward, because as a student this trip will be to expensive...Â
But if I go there, I will not play the LSD again, it has retired...  | | | |
|  Custom Title WakeXX Warlord
 10131 Posts


 Edinboro PA
 | | 05/30/2007 3:11 PM |
| | Congrats guys! | | | |
| Dordledum Commander
 3187 Posts



 Netherlands
 | | 05/31/2007 2:51 AM |
| Hello Erik and to all the others I met at the Championships  One "little" correction. I played a CE Band (and not a Storm Band  ) with: 1x Ryld 2x LBD 1x Thrall 3x Orc Warrior 1x Hunting Hyena greets, Marcel Darn, that's my lack of a memory again! mixing up my 1st and 3rd match of the day.
D.
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| coldnorthgamer Skirmisher
 19 Posts




 | | 05/31/2007 8:29 AM |
| | Congrats to the winner and Top4. Looks like a pretty cool tournament. Question: are Europeans more creative than us American players? Or, do Americans have more access to figures because the variety of warbands in the tournament is outstanding! Triple Chraal, still; and triple Bluespawn Stormlizards? I'm impressed with either the creativity or boldness. | | | |
| GRUUMSH Skirmisher
 14 Posts




 | | 05/31/2007 9:00 AM |
| Posted By Janos M. on 05/30/2007 7:42 AM Congrats again to Jan and Erik you're both great players! Hopefully you don't come to the European, so that I have "only" to beat the Italian...
Héhé...our flight and hotel are already booked. But don't worry...by then we will be out of shape and we'll leave it to you and the Italians And it's not very likely that my luck will be as good as it was last monday.
Greetz, GRUUMSH
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| Jan Elfman Skirmisher
 3 Posts




 | | 05/31/2007 11:10 AM |
| Erik, Erwin and me are going but Erik and Erwin have to work befor and i have school examens till thursday the 21th, we wouldn't be able to practise alot so don't worry about us
Greetings Jan Elfman | | | |
| Dordledum Commander
 3187 Posts



 Netherlands
 | | 06/01/2007 2:33 AM |
| Posted By coldnorthgamer on 05/31/2007 8:29 AM Congrats to the winner and Top4. Looks like a pretty cool tournament. Question: are Europeans more creative than us American players? Or, do Americans have more access to figures because the variety of warbands in the tournament is outstanding! Triple Chraal, still; and triple Bluespawn Stormlizards? I'm impressed with either the creativity or boldness. Speculation: Although we still want to win, a lot of Dutch players I know care more about playing a fun game than winning. The average American I've met is much more competative-minded. So I wouldn't call us more creative or more bold, but perhaps we tend to experiment a bit more because we don't mind losing as much as you do, and therefore take a bit more risks.
Please note that speculation is in bold letters. It's just a theory.
D.
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| Mandavar Sneak
 63 Posts



 Germany
 | | 06/01/2007 3:05 AM |
| Posted By Dordledum on 06/01/2007 2:33 AM
ps. Any photo's yet somewhere?
Yeah photos would be great  If I am not mistaking the lady with the black hair made a coulpe of pictures. Does anyone know her or knows if the pics are online?
cheers, m.
EDIT:
Posted By alepulp on 05/29/2007 3:47 PM I will ask Kristin - she took a LOT  just read the post. doh! @ Peter: Did you reach Kristin? | | | |
| Adkainen Skirmisher
 47 Posts




 | | 06/01/2007 3:30 AM |
| Congratulations to: Jan, Gruumsh, Peter and Roger.
How did Llarbal do?
I am very excited to see the Europeans this year. It is a lot of great players which don´t do many mistakes!
So it seems like the time has come for the younger great players....  | | | |
| Dordledum Commander
 3187 Posts



 Netherlands
 | | 06/01/2007 6:48 AM |
| Posted By Adkainen on 06/01/2007 3:30 AM Congratulations to: Jan, Gruumsh, Peter and Roger.
How did Llarbal do?
I am very excited to see the Europeans this year. It is a lot of great players which don´t do many mistakes!
So it seems like the time has come for the younger great players....  12th or 14th, don't know exactly. I'll ask him when I see him tomorrow, if he doesn't reply himself.
D.
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| Janos M. Underboss
 1015 Posts



 Hamburg / GErmany
 | | 06/01/2007 10:46 PM |
| Posted By coldnorthgamer on 05/31/2007 8:29 AM Congrats to the winner and Top4. Looks like a pretty cool tournament. Question: are Europeans more creative than us American players? Or, do Americans have more access to figures because the variety of warbands in the tournament is outstanding! Triple Chraal, still; and triple Bluespawn Stormlizards? I'm impressed with either the creativity or boldness. That depends. I know that the best players have access to all the warbands (like 3xLBD) but most of us thing about countering not just playing them. I can only speak for myself but 3xChraal with invisible Ultroloth are as good as 3xLBD. Both sides main beaters are hitting for 30 damage per full attack (Dragons get nerfed + DR) if they hit... The Cone of the Chraals are harder to avoid then lines in my mind. And my chraals are saving at +14 every time (telepathy). Btw the elemental traits help much in some games. The only negative is the double damage from fire, but the Firegiant isn't that popular here in Europe.
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| Sirohk Commander
 3809 Posts



 USA
 | | 06/02/2007 4:25 AM |
| Posted By Vrecknidj on 05/30/2007 6:10 AM Congrats to the top 4--excellent players there.
Sirohk, do you want to add any of these details to your qualifier data? Just to have it available, that is. Independently of whether a particular game actually is a qualifier, during qualifier season, it's good to see how the meta is shifting.
Dave Congrats all! It sounds like a great tounament, and definately well attended.Â
As I have the UK Nationals, sure I can add the results. If I can dig up the German Champioships (I know Roger won with UlmoSwarm at least), I'll add them also.Â

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| Michael Warrior
 245 Posts



 Sydney, Australia
 | | 06/03/2007 4:38 AM |
| Congratulations! Hope to see some pics soon.
Regarding the question about european creativity, I know a lot of the players don't have access to all minis. For me, I buy some boosters from every set but didn't hear about DDM until Aberrations. Given the enormous prices on ebay, I decided to collect Uniques at first and then Chaotic Good in general.
From what I heard at the championships in Berlin, there are many who do similarly. There were some who wanted to play Triple Large Black but didn't want to spend 60 Euros for the dragons alone. | | Champion of Regis | |
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