neilasaurus
Sneak
134 Posts
    
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| | Also keep in mind this was originally Kalrin's report who didn't even play DoB. | |
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neilasaurus
Sneak
134 Posts
| | 04/26/2006 5:56 PM |
| | Remember when they opened the Ark in Raiders of the Lost Ark? Such is NOSTII. If you were to look upon it, you would melt from its divine power. We all played the entire tournament blindfolded. | |
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Dagni
Sergeant
870 Posts
| | 04/26/2006 6:25 PM |
| So THAT'S what happened to the former #1 player in the world!! No wonder he's not atop the ratings anymore... guess you have to be alive to count!
GAZE ALL DAY struck down by its own medicine, oh the irony!
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Proud member of the GRUUMSH fan club! | |
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Terentia
Sneak
62 Posts
| | 04/26/2006 6:40 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by neilasaurus
Remember when they opened the Ark in Raiders of the Lost Ark? Such is NOSTII. If you were to look upon it, you would melt from its divine power. We all played the entire tournament blindfolded.
Now that explain's why I didn't do so hot in the tournament! | |
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Mindtrick
Warrior
234 Posts
| | 04/26/2006 10:09 PM |
| Will you guys stop stroking Jesse's ego please? It is hard enough fitting him in the carpool as it is!
I jest......[:p]
Actually, his warband is pretty effective against some things, a bit vulnerable against others and if he doesn't win inish it can break even sometimes. Pretty much the same as every other tier 1 warband out there. The point of keeping the details secret is so the other people at the GA and FL qualifiers will not "tech" against it in case they view Jesse as the main top 4 threat. The fact that the four of us, Doubtofbuddha, lalato, neilasaurus and I, all know about this band and how it works is due to the fact that we all play each other at least once a week in preperation for the qualifiers we are attending. | |
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robbdaman
Underboss
2380 Posts
| | 04/27/2006 12:01 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Mindtrick
Will you guys stop stroking Jesse's ego please? It is hard enough fitting him in the carpool as it is!
So Jesse's a bit of a tubby one eh? [:p]
R~ | |
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doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 04/27/2006 7:59 AM |
| Nope
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PatEllis15
Commander
4463 Posts
| | 04/27/2006 10:13 AM |
| Ah... Jesse: I think you better put an explanation up wtih that picture... Frankly, I'd not have accepted all those ones to wear that shirt... [:p]
Pat E | |
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striderlotr
Commander
3370 Posts
| | 04/27/2006 11:26 AM |
| I was just reading osme of this again and was thinking about some of the comments and concerns. It again comes down to the concept of players wanting to know what the best players are playing. Now I'm not one of the best players and most of my bands are being used by others anyway ( I can't take full ownership as I've never posted them as MY bands). I do have to say that even if your band was posted, it does not mean that someone else can play it like you. People look for what they think is the best and try and imitate it, so why not throw them a bone just to get them thinking and get them excited.
As for the complete secrecy concept... to each his own. If you are that nervous that someone will figure out your master plan then keep it secret, or Not so Secret (as the N and S stand for), that is up to you and the others. From my point of view I like to see what others are playing and how they faired. It helps me when I'm looking at my bands and thinking about how they will play. If the person who won the event is not listed, then I can still see the rest, so no big deal to me.
In the end, keep it secret or let it out... it is up to you, but please change that shirt. | |
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doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 04/27/2006 12:20 PM |
| | I am sad that you are not all acknowldging the awesomeness of my shirt. [:P] | |
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HidesFromHurricanes
Warrior
289 Posts
| | 04/27/2006 12:27 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Lord_Raven
I thought "GAZE ALL DAY" had been exposed already? Jesse what are you really hiding?
Ham Sammich? http://www.maxminis.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19039
But seriously, while I'm curious what DoB played, but I'ld much rather drive down to FL and play him. And if I were really serious about qualifiers I get out and play against all the active groups in my area. And I'm with Guy, a partial report is better than no report. | |
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Sirohk
Commander
3938 Posts
USA
| | 04/27/2006 12:37 PM |
| YOUR SHIRT IS AWSOME! ΖD] Where can I get one? [?]
But if I had to Gaze All Day at that shirt, I would surely go blind. I bet that shirt helped win many a tournament (due to causing blindness).
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forkedmoon
Underboss
1305 Posts
| | 04/27/2006 1:46 PM |
| I looked here to get an idea about what types of warbands are winning and what types are not. Not the specifics of one warband. But unlike others I don't think partial reports are better than none. Is a novel better without the last two chapters than to have not read it at all?
It is fine to keep data private and I have all the respect for those who choose to. Afterall didn't Mr. Lee have his "Ancient Chinese Secret?" I just need to find his wife who will reveal it. [)] | |
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Dagni
Sergeant
870 Posts
| | 04/27/2006 2:34 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by striderlotr
I do have to say that even if your band was posted, it does not mean that someone else can play it like you.
[snip]
From my point of view I like to see what others are playing and how they faired. It helps me when I'm looking at my bands and thinking about how they will play.
Actually, it's that second part that's more of the point, generally. Let's say a really solid player is going to the Georgia qualifier, and is going to either play 3 HH or Gith Monks. He can't quite decide. His biggest worry if he plays Gith Monks is that he thinks they lose to 4 Chraals (badly). On the internet he finds out that Jesse is coming to the tournament, and has been playing 4 Chraals in all of his recent tournaments. He decides to play 3 HH. Now instead of an easy win if they face each other, Jesse has a hard game, some consider it an unfavorable matchup, in fact.
The reason to keep a band secret is to get more favorable matchups than if everyone knows what you will play. Maybe no one will go so far as to bring an anti-Chraal band, just because they know or expect Jesse to bring that, but they're sure not likely to bring a band that they feel gets destroyed in the Chraal matchup. Plus, maybe one or two players WILL bring an anti-Chraal band.
So unless the warband has no good matchups, no bad matchups, all the matchups are exactly the same, it doesn't hurt for a high profile player to keep what he's playing a secret.
If it's really rogue, the surprise factor is also helpful. Even if the opponent doesn't change his band at all when he learns Jesse is playing Aspect of Demogorgon, he might test against that matchup, or even just mentally prepare for the matchup, and thus make fewer mistakes than otherwise.
Is any of this a big deal? Not really. In the 2004 championships when I used a rogue band the surprise factor barely mattered, if at all. But neither is it a big deal to NOT share the band with everyone on a public forum.
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Proud member of the GRUUMSH fan club! | |
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Markdragon
Sneak
143 Posts
| | 04/27/2006 2:56 PM |
| | As one of the people who is going to be playing in Georiga, I can only smile.... | |
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doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 04/27/2006 2:58 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Markdragon
As one of the people who is going to be playing in Georiga, I can only smile....
Its good to be happy. | |
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Gunthar
Commander
2938 Posts
| | 04/27/2006 3:50 PM |
| So this is where all of the hubub is from......
While I personally think it a little bit (re: not a huge deal)tacky not to post a warband, it's no real biggie. Somewhat the same thing happened at Gen Con last year and Jesse didn't fare so well in the Championships, from what I heard, so it's not like he's got some major advantage that can't be overcome by good play on an opponant's part. Even in this tournament Sam smacked him around in a game. We win some, we lose some, same as always. How well you play your own band has more to do with winning than what you play against most times. | |
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Minneapolis/St. Paul area
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IanB
Commander
3112 Posts
| | 04/27/2006 3:53 PM |
| Looks to me like you need some fashion help...
http://www.cafepress.com/cp/prod.aspx?p=breeyark.55866745 | |
Anson on WotC boards | |
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doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 04/27/2006 4:04 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Gunthar
Even in this tournament Sam smacked him around in a game. We win some, we lose some, same as always. How well you play your own band has more to do with winning than what you play against most times.
Indeed, and I fully expect that I will lose a game or two when I play in my qualifier(s) this year. Hopefully I will have learned enough about piloting this type of warband that I can minimize that that chance, but it is a rare tournament where I don't lose a game (and occassionally two [:p].)
All warbands have bad match-ups, and my decision to not mention my warband is merely an attempt to keep a narrow competitive advantage that I may or may not have (as noted by Dagni.) For all I know I could end up getting beaten by a surprise tactic (like I was during the first round of the Championship last year) or by a very unfavorable match-up (like I was during the third round of the Championship last year.
Though this time I am avoiding playing a warband that has quite as bad of a match-up as 2 Couatls + 3 Justice archons vs. Cleric of Dol Arrah + Large Silver Dragon. I am also keeping my mouth shut a bit better. [:P]
Besides, who knows if I will keep this warband for the Qualifier. I've already had 3 or 4 warbands that I have considered for my Qualifiers, but each one has proven unsatisfactory in some respect. Its very possible that in a week or two, I will decide one particular match is insurmountable and move on to something else. | |
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doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 04/27/2006 4:06 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by IanB
Looks to me like you need some fashion help...
http://www.cafepress.com/cp/prod.aspx?p=breeyark.55866745
I've actually been considering making "Team All Day" shirts. [:P] | |
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DaemonKain
Warrior
312 Posts
| | 04/27/2006 4:27 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by doubtofbuddha
I've actually been considering making "Team All Day" shirts. [:P]
It's true, he and I discussed it last night. We clearly need to do this! | |
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doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 04/27/2006 4:32 PM |
| | Dude, that was two nights ago. Are you losing time again? [:P] | |
I am not gone. | |
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DaemonKain
Warrior
312 Posts
| | 04/27/2006 4:45 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by doubtofbuddha
Dude, that was two nights ago. Are you losing time again? [:P]
Wow, it was, wasn't it. Damn. They either need to pay me more or make me work less...
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Proud Mascot of Team Amish | |
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AesophDarkfable
Warlord
5628 Posts
| | 04/27/2006 4:57 PM |
| | Ug the shirt. That thing should be forbidden in tournaments as distracting :P | |
Im out- find me on Hordelings if you want to chat. | |
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doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 04/27/2006 5:03 PM |
| Damnit. Quit revealing my NOST!!!!!!!
I was actually just playing a Quad Gith Monk band at the tournament. My real NOST was the shirt.
That was a lie. | |
I am not gone. | |
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Terentia
Sneak
62 Posts
| | 04/27/2006 5:50 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by doubtofbuddha
Damnit. Quit revealing my NOST!!!!!!!
I was actually just playing a Quad Gith Monk band at the tournament. My real NOST was the shirt.
That was a lie.
I'll second that...He did not wear the shirt! [:D] | |
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Phrank
Warrior
235 Posts
| | 04/27/2006 6:18 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by doubtofbuddha
Nope
i can see the resemblance with youre avatar. there maybe has much color over that shirt than on the coualt | |
Complete set: hummm all
Jaraxle: Do keep ever present in your thoughs, my friend, than an illusion can kill you if you believe in it.
Entreri: And the real thing can kill you whether you believe in it or not.
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robbdaman
Underboss
2380 Posts
| | 04/27/2006 6:44 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by doubtofbuddha
I am sad that you are not all acknowldging the awesomeness of my shirt. [:P]
I would have but I went blind initially from looking at it and couldn't see the keyboard for a few hours to type anymore.
R~ | |
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Bleys
Warrior
272 Posts
| | 04/28/2006 8:35 AM |
| Jesse,
As far as I can see, you have great tits! At least I think those are the little chickadee like birds on your shirt [:D] | |
All roads lead to Amber | |
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DaemonKain
Warrior
312 Posts
| | 04/28/2006 10:18 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Bleys
Jesse,
As far as I can see, you have great tits! At least I think those are the little chickadee like birds on your shirt [:D]
Umm... Guys.... Jesse is the one on the left... | |
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Proud Mascot of Team Amish | |
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doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 04/28/2006 10:34 AM |
| | You guys didn't know I was a girl? [:O] | |
I am not gone. | |
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True_Blue
Underboss
2386 Posts
| | 04/28/2006 10:53 AM |
| | haha wow.. that shirt has more to say than you do doubtofbuddha. That is an amazing picture heh.. wow.. just wow =] | |
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Bleys
Warrior
272 Posts
| | 04/28/2006 12:13 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by DaemonKain
quote:
Originally posted by Bleys
Jesse,
As far as I can see, you have great tits! At least I think those are the little chickadee like birds on your shirt [:D]
Umm... Guys.... Jesse is the one on the left...
hmmm...well I guess my ornithology or bird identification skills are better than my knowledge of DDM celebs. [:0] | |
All roads lead to Amber | |
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striderlotr
Commander
3370 Posts
| | 04/28/2006 12:21 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Bleys
quote:
Originally posted by DaemonKain
quote:
Originally posted by Bleys
Jesse,
As far as I can see, you have great tits! At least I think those are the little chickadee like birds on your shirt [:D]
Umm... Guys.... Jesse is the one on the left...
hmmm...well I guess my ornithology or bird identification skills are better than my knowledge of DDM celebs. [:0]
How the thread is officially hijacked... So which is the real Jesse? I know and I'm not telling. | |
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Champion of Elementals
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Bleys
Warrior
272 Posts
| | 04/28/2006 12:26 PM |
| | The secret will be out at the Maxmini's Draft at GENCON and me thinks if the shirt is worn, it will be a no brainer... | |
All roads lead to Amber | |
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Gunthar
Commander
2938 Posts
| | 04/28/2006 1:47 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Bleys
[...celebs. [:0]
Celebs? Wow, that term has hit a new low when it talks about one of us. | |
Champion of Prit(Wemic vindication is here)
Minneapolis/St. Paul area
Completed trades: Aspect of Cheese (Love that moniker), Tickparasite, Elderthing, Lalato, Sodj, Grimoire, SmilinIrish, Zeb, RWarehall,Link, wikkawikkawa, Auramancer, Rommers, HK, Ivid5,Qillan_dvra, Puggins, Arcabius, Ironfist Boulderbender, Robby, Corim Danex, monster_slayer, DNDJUNKIE, Kelemvor, Krush, ckissee, Massawyrm, hockey fan, Wish, Uninspiring Lieutenant, vtloon x2, Vrecknidj, Darthpoke, WakeXX, AnarionZell, lycusmike, papabear5 and umpteen local trades with board members
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doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 04/28/2006 2:00 PM |
| To confuse the issue....
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I am not gone. | |
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robbdaman
Underboss
2380 Posts
| | 04/28/2006 3:02 PM |
| The fact that you have such an ambiguous name doesn't help either.
R~ | |
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doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 04/28/2006 3:03 PM |
| Indeed!
[:D] | |
I am not gone. | |
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Bleys
Warrior
272 Posts
| | 04/28/2006 4:06 PM |
| | Now if that picture was posted earlier, I would have been much more hesitant to throw the "great tit" comment out there, but now that I have a closer look at the shirt, at least I am ornithologically correct...have a look http://www.garden-birds.co.uk/birds/greattit.htm | |
All roads lead to Amber | |
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