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05/26/2006 10:12 AM  
Sounds logical to you and me, but in an extreme case, that player could correctly state that there's no evidence in DCI or printed rules that states Guy's clarifications are any more legitimate than someone else's.

I bring this up only because I want to see a more cohesive collection of errata/clarifications produced and endorsed by WotC and incorporated into an official, portable format. The game has advanced to a point in social popularity and rules complexity that a cohesive presentation of all the rules and finer points is necessary.

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06/08/2006 5:06 PM  
3 questions, from easist to most complex

1)What is the REL of DDM Qualifiers?

2)2 players at a game. Player A makes a move that player B knows is illegal and tells him such. Player A insists that he is correct. Player B is intimidated by Player A and does not feel comfortable pushing the matter further and allows Player A to do the illegal action, possibly giving that player a huge advantage and winning the game. Now the question. What if Player B comes up to a Judge AFTER the game when Player A is not around and informs the Judge then about the situation. Can/Should the Judge do anything at that point? (My guess/answer is no, but something similar came up and I wanted to know)

3)This is a very well informed community. With lots of player reports coming out after each qualifier it's easy to get a gauge of other players. So, my question is basically about "player profiling". I believe the UTR or Penalty Guide (I couldn't just find it now) says that you do not have to have solid proof that someone is/was cheating but just suspicion. What if you've read about a player who keeps accidently forgetting a rule and they come to your event and "forget" the same rule. If you did not read this ahead of time you would likely call this a Procedural Error and fix it and maybe give them a caution. But, if you've read online that this person has "forgot" that same rule numerous times...is it within the judge's rights to go straight to calling it cheating with harsher penalties?



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06/13/2006 1:23 PM  
New question:

Completely hypothetical: Besides someone who's been banned from DCI for cheating or some other DCI related offense, can you not allow a player from participating in a DCI sanctioned event? And I guess going along with that, is using a false name a DCI offense?


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06/19/2006 4:47 PM  
New Question

Will the rules for certain abilities that are new to the game (such as the Spellscale Sorcerer's Counterspell) be explained prior to the pre-release, at least to the judges, so that, at such events, there isn't a need for a lot of interpretive guessing?

And, if so, where will the information be available? (I suppose that set inserts will probably contain much of this information, but what if the judges require more clarification? Whom should they contact at an event if they'd like an alternative interpretation?)

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06/20/2006 3:49 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by XenoZephyr

is using a false name a DCI offense?

See the DCI Penalty Guidelines, section 163: Cheating-Fraud.

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06/20/2006 8:10 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by Vrecknidj

New Question

Will the rules for certain abilities that are new to the game (such as the Spellscale Sorcerer's Counterspell) be explained prior to the pre-release, at least to the judges, so that, at such events, there isn't a need for a lot of interpretive guessing?

And, if so, where will the information be available? (I suppose that set inserts will probably contain much of this information, but what if the judges require more clarification? Whom should they contact at an event if they'd like an alternative interpretation?)

Dave


I can offer answers to some of these questions, but you should ask them here:
http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=656308

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Vrecknidj
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06/21/2006 12:42 PM  
Thanks Guy, I've asked them over there.

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09/13/2006 5:06 PM  

Need help with a ruling question.  I am the organizer for a Vassal tournament and have the logfile of the game.  Here is the issue:

Player 1: "At the end of the game - based on Player 2's points that he had on the screen, I moved certain minis to certain areas.  Because I did this he killed a graycloak ranger and inspiring marshall.  At the time I thought, no problem, even if he does I will win on points having 521-513.  Then after that game he says, oh wait, I actually won because I forgot to add in a couple of your creatures that I had killed earlier.  I based my whole last move on his points and could have very very easily saved the graycloak without any problem at all.  So while it might appear he has won, I am appealing this."

Should he be as responsible for keeping track of his opponents points also?  Since we have the game history in the logfile, should it be backed up to that point and replayed?

Please email me a response if possible, Thanks.

simage


http://www.maxminis.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12270

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09/15/2006 8:28 PM  
Should he be as responsible for keeping track of his opponents points also?  Since we have the game history in the logfile, should it be backed up to that point and replayed?

Um.. I dont think that Telefanix is going to be able or willing to answer questions about a vassal tourny. But since Im one of those Judges.. I can give you my input on the matter - take it for what its worth (not much)
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09/22/2007 8:21 AM  
I've seen this at tournaments before.

When I run tournaments, I announce, before the first match begins, that each player is responsible for keeping track of his own points, and his opponent's points during each match. I've heard other judges (at GenCon this year, for instance) say, "If there's a points issue, I will check both your records. If I have nothing else to go on, and the two records are different, I will probably go with whoever seems to have better records."

This, of course, encourages everyone to take meticulous records.

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