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Gizzard
Skirmisher
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 | | 03/20/2006 10:53 PM |
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I was thinking of getting some matte enamels and touching up some of my DDM stuff; has anyone else experimented with enamels (or does anyone know what the original DDM paintjob is done with?)
I would use an acrylic + dullcote for a display figure, but I want to be able to throw these in a bag, so I want to have the same cast-iron durability that the original paint has. | |
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DireBadger
Warrior
266 Posts
Glasgow, UK
| | 03/21/2006 5:41 AM |
| I was a die-hard enamels painter for many years. I swiched to acrylics more recently (mostly for ease of use - clean brushes in water, less fumes etc.) and I've got this piece of advice for you: enamels chip too. I wouldn't go back to enamels now - they're not any more durable than acrylics and they're way more hassle.
An acrylic-painted plastic mini is far less likely to shed paint in transit than an enamel-painted metal mini (I speak from frustrating personal experience). I've never painted plastics in enamels, so can't comment on that.
What you really need is a decent varnish/dullcote. Once your minis are finished, spray some matte varnish (2-3 very light coats rather than a heavy load all at once) and they're sealed and protected. They should stand up to a little in-bag punishment with no damage.
Some folks go for a coat or two of gloss varnish (they say it's better protection) then finish off with the matte to take away the sheen. I've never tried that myself. | |
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glumag
Warlord
5968 Posts
| | 03/21/2006 9:16 AM |
| Enamels are the devil when it comes to minis, at least for me, I painted a few in the past and nothing but nightmare.
I switched to acrylics and no complains since. The dullcoat will prtect the mini (3 layers) if layered enough [)] | |
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Sulaco
Underboss
1605 Posts
| | 03/21/2006 12:43 PM |
| | Enamels are bad enough on metal, but they are the worst thing for plastic: the minis will bend, the hard enamel doesn't. Your minis will be popping out of their shells like peel-and-eat shrimp at a Chinese buffet. | |
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Gizzard
Skirmisher
2 Posts
| | 03/21/2006 10:10 PM |
| Hmmm, OK that's a pretty resounding "No" vote. I'm not convinced that acrylic + dullcote will stand up as well as the original paintjob, but I am convinced not to bother with enamels. ;-)
Basically, I can't imagine throwing metal minis even with 3 coats of Dullcote into a bag to take them somewhere (are you shuddering at the image? I am.) Maybe plastic is a bit more flexible and lightweight and so would handle the abuse better? But I find that even Dullcote'd metals have a hard time standing up to RPG play; people grabbing them with pizza-covered hands, knocking them with dice etc etc.
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Some folks go for a coat or two of gloss varnish (they say it's better protection) then finish off with the matte to take away the sheen. I've never tried that myself.
I agree with this, though it's a bit more satin-y than just pure Dullcote so I don't do it for certain minis. It would be fine for quick touchup work though. And it would be fine for DDM I think. | |
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Sulaco
Underboss
1605 Posts
| | 03/22/2006 9:58 AM |
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Originally posted by Gizzard
Hmmm, OK that's a pretty resounding "No" vote. I'm not convinced that acrylic + dullcote will stand up as well as the original paintjob, but I am convinced not to bother with enamels. ;-)
Basically, I can't imagine throwing metal minis even with 3 coats of Dullcote into a bag to take them somewhere (are you shuddering at the image? I am.) Maybe plastic is a bit more flexible and lightweight and so would handle the abuse better? But I find that even Dullcote'd metals have a hard time standing up to RPG play; people grabbing them with pizza-covered hands, knocking them with dice etc etc.
They are entirely different from metal minis. I have touched-up, convereted, or repainted many DDM figures and they can stand up to repeated use and rough handling and storge without dullcote. | |
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