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ShadowLord XT Commander
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 Plane of Shadow
 | | 08/29/2007 4:50 PM |
| | I've gotten my hands on some Reaper minis and want to paint them just right. I was wondering how to get the best effects for Wood (a boat and staff), rust, and parchment with burns on the outer edges. | | Disipline is the only way to overcome chaos. Champion of Half-Golems Knight of Golems "This world is made for love and peace" - Trigun "anyway..shadow..you've figured women out. KUDOS." - raye_kino16 | |
|  Fun Guy from Yuggoth Cthulhufnord Warlord
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 Umass Amherst Baby!
 | | 08/29/2007 5:56 PM |
| Posted By ShadowLord XT on 08/29/2007 4:50 PM I've gotten my hands on some Reaper minis and want to paint them just right. I was wondering how to get the best effects for Wood (a boat and staff), rust, and parchment with burns on the outer edges.
For me it's all about drybrushing and layering. For wood I just start with a dark brown and work my way to lighter colors. You can play around a bit with how you paint it, if you have a worn section of the staff make it slightly lighter. Or in the case of larger sections of wood like the boat, use a fine brush to leave lines of darker color in the wood to represent the grain.
For rust I generaly just drybrush the object metal as need and then either apply a chesnut ink, followed by another light drybrushing of metal. Or I'll use a redish/brown as the basecoat for the object and then give it periodicaly lighter metal drybrushes.
Hmmm..... for Parchment that's charred...... I'd paint up the parchment as is.... then apply a slightly darker color where the charring is. Keep on layering it, one darker color each time. You will end up building a natural loooking effect there, where a section of the parchment darkens and eventualy turns black/brown.
Hope this helps.  | | Pathetic Earthlings. Hurling your bodies out into the void - without the slightest inkling of who or what is out here. If you had known anything about the true nature of the universe - anything at all - you would have hidden from it in terror. | |
| kestrel.ca Underboss
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 | | 08/30/2007 7:09 AM |
| I would agree with most of what Cthulhufnord says, and add a little.
For wood, I find a brown wash over a medium brown gives a real nice effect. It depends on how large the area is. For small wood bits, you can sometimes get away with a brown basecoat and the wash (don't give this flow-aid, you actually want the slight pooling/irregularities, as this suggests the woodgrain). For larger areas, you will want to add a layer or two of highlights after a wash.
For rust, one of my favourite recipes is to paint it in a brown metallic (GW's Tin Bitz for example), lightly wash with Flesh or Chestnut to get the crevices a reddish-brown colour, and then drybrush the actual metal on top (Chainmail, Silver, etc.) or where there's likely to be wear. This creates a lot of depth on metal and gives the appearance of poorly maintained, weathered, or old metal. For larger metallic areas (tanks, etc.) after painting your base metal, you could also add a touch of orange on lower edges, and then drybrush again to get a rusted effect.
For the parchment, I can't think of what to improve on from above. If you look at charred paper, you might notice that there's generally three areas -- regular parchment, "cooked parchment", and burnt parchment. I would have reasonably high contrast in this case, ivory or bone for the parchment, a medium brown for the "cooked" edges, and then a line of dark brown or black on the very edges where the parchment has charred and flaked away. | |
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| ShadowLord XT Commander
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 Plane of Shadow
 | | 08/30/2007 7:12 AM |
| The wood on the boat shows the grain, so blackwash?
When I said rust I meant spot rusting, so drybrush with a fine paintbrush?
For writing on the parchment, do I just paint gibberish? Squiggly lines? Or is there actual wizard writing somewhere? I want it to look nice.
Also, on the boat there are lanterns. Is there any special way to make them look flouresent or glowing?
These are the minis I'm talking about: http://www.reapermini.com/FigureFinder#detail/02696 http://www.reapermini.com/FigureFinder#detail/02925
For Thora (the second one) do you think she would look better with or without the skeletal hand on her back? | | Disipline is the only way to overcome chaos. Champion of Half-Golems Knight of Golems "This world is made for love and peace" - Trigun "anyway..shadow..you've figured women out. KUDOS." - raye_kino16 | |
|  Fun Guy from Yuggoth Cthulhufnord Warlord
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 Umass Amherst Baby!
 | | 08/30/2007 11:52 AM |
| Hmmm.... I personaly don't like the giant hand on her back.
As far as the lanterns go, I've never done light effects before. I'm sure someone else here could talk you through it.
For the parchment, I like taking a very fine soft tipped pen for that. For a magic scroll I'll either use some Norse Runes or make up my own symbols. Squiggles are more for a proclomation or letter, not a scroll brimming with dark magic.  | | Pathetic Earthlings. Hurling your bodies out into the void - without the slightest inkling of who or what is out here. If you had known anything about the true nature of the universe - anything at all - you would have hidden from it in terror. | |
|  Most Edumacated zenthrus Warlord
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 SLC, UT
 | | 09/04/2007 5:27 PM |
| Light effects have the best effect when you work from bright to dark. Start by priming white. Then, slowly layer (or wet blend) layers of increasingly darker shades (for "standard" fire effects the layers should run from white through yellows through oranges into red and possibly into browns). I always like to add a highlight or two (tiny specks of white or light yellow) in the dark spots to give the illusion of ash motes.
Glowing effects are similar. You start with a bright color and layer/wet blend increasingly darker shades on top.
For both glowing and lighting effects, the still more difficult part is considering the area affected by the light. Light reflects (and refracts) so there should be underhighlights and light reflections as well as dark shading.
Lighting effects are probably the hardest effects to accomplish, btw. Plan on spending a LOT of time practicing and studying physical objects (i.e. light a candle in a dark room and study how the light changes coloring) before getting a satisfying effect. There are no simple or easy shortcuts for really good lighting effects.
As to writing on parchment, I typically either write using the Runic alphabet also known as Elder Futhark or Chinese Characters. Occasionally, I'll use Japanese instead.
Best results for writing symbols/characters is to use either a lining pen (much like cartoonists use...I'd probably use a number 0) or an 18/0 spotter brush. | | Knight Warlord a.k.a. Commander (#32) in only 6 months. Where's my pie? Champion of Dwarven Thunderlashers Knight of the Large Dire Chicken Have/Want List Trade References | |
| ShadowLord XT Commander
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 Plane of Shadow
 | | 09/07/2007 1:14 PM |
| Thanks for the help guys.
I made my first mistake (my choice of skin colour for Thora) second if you count not being about to paint eyes very well. Don't use toffee as a skin colour, it's too pale even for a necromancer. | | Disipline is the only way to overcome chaos. Champion of Half-Golems Knight of Golems "This world is made for love and peace" - Trigun "anyway..shadow..you've figured women out. KUDOS." - raye_kino16 | |
|  Fun Guy from Yuggoth Cthulhufnord Warlord
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 Umass Amherst Baby!
 | | 09/07/2007 1:32 PM |
| | Well, back when I first started on faces the eyes were the first thing I did. Even now with 10+ years of painting under my belt it's still tricky. | | Pathetic Earthlings. Hurling your bodies out into the void - without the slightest inkling of who or what is out here. If you had known anything about the true nature of the universe - anything at all - you would have hidden from it in terror. | |
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