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ChristopherGroves
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DaemonKain
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| | 03/16/2006 9:55 AM |
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Originally posted by ChristopherGroves
Anyone? Anyone? Beuler? Beuler?
I've got no experience with Vassal modding, or I'd volunteer right now. Actually, do we have anyone on the task of making a database for warband building? I'd happily take a stab at modifying Bifur's this weekend. | |
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Mindtrick
Warrior
233 Posts
| | 03/16/2006 10:23 AM |
| Aside from putting the spoiler information into excel (kept up with at each update I make to the thread) I don't know if I can be much help to either Vassal or a Bifur type mod for warband building.
Let me know what would be involved and I will see what my available time is like. | |
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Wrackspawn
ChristopherGroves
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lynchpt
Sergeant
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| | 03/16/2006 10:41 AM |
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Originally posted by DaemonKain
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Originally posted by ChristopherGroves
Anyone? Anyone? Beuler? Beuler?
I've got no experience with Vassal modding, or I'd volunteer right now. Actually, do we have anyone on the task of making a database for warband building? I'd happily take a stab at modifying Bifur's this weekend.
What do you mean by "a database for warband building"? Chris and I are working on a database for logging warbands used at tournaments - is that what you meant? Actually, the database exists, but I'm working on a UI.
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DaemonKain
Warrior
312 Posts
| | 03/16/2006 10:46 AM |
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Originally posted by ChristopherGroves
Are either of you ... pseudo-programmers? VASSAL is largely GUI driven for the interface, although you'd have to build some graphics, etc.
Yeah, I'm definately in the Psuedo camp. :) I'd be happy to try: I'll see what I can do this weekend, I just don't know how much time I'll have. I assume you can edit previous mods, which might just be the easiest thing... Could we just add it to the DDM mod? That way we could reuse much of the work already done (just with new graphics and updates on where the data is on the icon and what is editable), and also then we would all be in the same chatroom, which I think would be good.
I'm fine to do it the opposite way though. Splitting into two mods would be good to keep each one of a smaller size, and also prevent the many, many updates that might be necessary with two games going on from annoying users.
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lynchpt
Sergeant
925 Posts
| | 03/16/2006 11:28 AM |
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Originally posted by DaemonKain
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Originally posted by ChristopherGroves
Are either of you ... pseudo-programmers? VASSAL is largely GUI driven for the interface, although you'd have to build some graphics, etc.
Yeah, I'm definately in the Psuedo camp. :) I'd be happy to try: I'll see what I can do this weekend, I just don't know how much time I'll have. I assume you can edit previous mods, which might just be the easiest thing... Could we just add it to the DDM mod? That way we could reuse much of the work already done (just with new graphics and updates on where the data is on the icon and what is editable), and also then we would all be in the same chatroom, which I think would be good.
I'm fine to do it the opposite way though. Splitting into two mods would be good to keep each one of a smaller size, and also prevent the many, many updates that might be necessary with two games going on from annoying users.
From the maintenance perspective, I suspect you will be much better off making the DB mod separate.
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DaemonKain
Warrior
312 Posts
| | 03/16/2006 11:41 AM |
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From the maintenance perspective, I suspect you will be much better off making the DB mod separate.
Pat Lynch
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Yeah, that's the conclusion I came to just after wiritng that...
As to your previous point, I meant creating a database like Bifur, just holding the Dreamblade minis stats instead of DDM. | |
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Mindtrick
Warrior
233 Posts
| | 03/16/2006 1:13 PM |
| Regrettably I design bridges for a living, not make 1s and 0s line up and dance.
Database entry I can do, just not programming. | |
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tullywi
Sergeant
982 Posts
| | 03/16/2006 1:54 PM |
| I should be able to do it. I've spent enough time in Vassal that I could probably get this working in a weekend if I had images for the units. With the quick glance I had at the map, I think I could create that fairly quickly too.
Mike posted in the Vassal forum that it had been announced for 36 hours and there wasn't a Vassal mod yet. It sort of sounded like he wants us to create one for this. If that is the case, I'll create the mod. (Mike, Can we get non-print quality maps from WoTC to support the D&D minis mod? [)]) | |
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DaemonKain
Warrior
312 Posts
| | 03/16/2006 2:56 PM |
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Originally posted by tullywi
I should be able to do it. I've spent enough time in Vassal that I could probably get this working in a weekend if I had images for the units. With the quick glance I had at the map, I think I could create that fairly quickly too.
Mike posted in the Vassal forum that it had been announced for 36 hours and there wasn't a Vassal mod yet. It sort of sounded like he wants us to create one for this. If that is the case, I'll create the mod. (Mike, Can we get non-print quality maps from WoTC to support the D&D minis mod? [)])
Heh, well, what would really speed things up is if they just released a spoiler list with images of the minis, but, yeah.
In other news - looking at Bifur, it looks like it'll be slightly more difficult than I anticipated to mod this up to use Dreamblade minis instead of DDM minis. Mainly, there are several VB scripts that are triggered, and it's been a while since I played in VB. I'm a lot better with Database theory than with coding front ends. Oh well. I'll keep messing around with it, but I think it may be easier to start this from scratch. Given that we also do not have any images yet, I don't know that this will be of much more use than a minis browser of sorts. | |
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Mindtrick
Warrior
233 Posts
| | 03/16/2006 3:03 PM |
| Three images have been released offically on the WotC Dreamblade site:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dbm/gallery
A couple of others could be pulled from the Downloads page:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dbm/downloads
We could pull some more from the pictures posted from GAMA but they would look kind of bad. | |
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kaiserluger
Warrior
319 Posts
| | 03/16/2006 4:53 PM |
| When putting in the Map each "square" should have room for 9 pieces, 4 creatures each and 1 location right?
Then 16 squares for your start zone and 16 for graveyard? | |
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Balduran I
Sergeant
404 Posts
| | 03/16/2006 5:10 PM |
| Just curious, is there a Magic: the Gathering VASSAL module, or if not VASSAL one of the other freeware game builders out there? If there is, great. Ignore the rest of this!
If not, here's my thought. While WotC has been cool about DDM on VASSAL, DB seems much closer to Magic than DDM. So I wouldn't just assume it'd be OK with them to do it. Perhaps someone should approach WotC about the thumbs up before embarking on the project.
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Wrackspawn
ChristopherGroves
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Balduran I
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404 Posts
| | 03/16/2006 5:24 PM |
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Wrackspawn
ChristopherGroves
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tullywi
Sergeant
982 Posts
| | 03/19/2006 1:56 PM |
| | So, if I've finished the mod (well the 37 units whose names are known), but don't necessarily want to release it on VassalEngine.org, how should I distribute what I have? Did I hear rumors of a mailing list? If so, I'm sure it could be distributed through e-mail... | |
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Elvenlord
Sneak
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| | 03/19/2006 3:49 PM |
| | Where do you get vassal stuff I can't get vassel to work but maybe I am getting the wrong stuff. | |
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tullywi
Sergeant
982 Posts
| | 03/19/2006 5:54 PM |
| Please see Bshugg's guide to vassal thread on how to load Vassal itself. It is located at the top of the Vassal forum in one of the Stickied threads. Or you can go to www.vassalengine.org and follow their directions on getting it downloaded and installed.
As for what to do with Vassal once you have it, you can play DDM with it. Those instructions are available on the Vassal forum under the stickied DDM 1-9-2 thread. Otherwise, if you want to play Dreamblade, I haven't decided how to release this module yet, as I don't have all the minis or stats for it. | |
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Wrackspawn
ChristopherGroves
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DaemonKain
Warrior
312 Posts
| | 03/19/2006 9:22 PM |
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Originally posted by ChristopherGroves
Feel free to ship me a copy to test ...
Me too please. I'm eager to start testing this stuff out and hopefully helping with development. Appreciate your work Tully | |
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Idzy
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Fenris
Sergeant
974 Posts
| | 03/21/2006 5:14 PM |
| I will volunteer to host the file so everyone can download it. I don't imagine it's very large, correct?
Email it to me and I'll put it up and then post a link for download.
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kaiserluger
Warrior
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| | 03/21/2006 6:00 PM |
| I'll take a copy.
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Fenris
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| | 03/22/2006 1:48 AM |
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ATTENTION:
The Vassal mod is now available at:
http://socalminis.org
It's under Hosted Files on the left, click on "Dreamblade"
I'll keep that link up to date as the mod is revised.
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