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08/21/2006 7:09 AM  

What figure is the worst in your opinion based on stats?

I think it's the Barbstrider. In this game, any figure that makes your enemies stronger is a bad deal.


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08/21/2006 7:31 AM  

Axemorph Demon, the most expensive spawn cost in the game 12PP and it's inferior in all respects to at least 3 cheaper creatures {Noble Dragon, Dreadmorph Ogre, Eater of Hope}

As for the Barbstrider, while I don't rate it as highly as the other 2 point creatures. It's still a bargin. It works very well at the start of the game, when you don't have enough units to stack several in one cell. And is a great unit on turn-3. If your opponent wins initiative & destroys it you get a 3-dice deathstrike. Also a cheap unit to expend for "Appease".


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08/21/2006 7:35 AM  
But it will kill anything and everything if you get the double blades though.

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08/21/2006 10:38 AM  

The Barbstrider is actuall very good.   Play them as  really cheap loner figs  then  cost you 0 net points and they work great in an aggressive band.    The Cannibal  is a bit sturdier and works in groups better  so often gets played first, but I wouldn't hesitate to use the strider as needed  when I want a 4th or 5th   2 drop.


My vote for worse  is  figs like Doomball.   For being a one shot fig it isn't nearly aggressively costed enough.   Even at  4F  his stats aren't playable.  Should be a 3F  fig.


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08/21/2006 10:57 AM  

Barbstrider - use one of these with three cannibal Pariahs so you can spawn as much as possible early in the game.  Rush the barbstrider as far over as possible, then spawn the Eater of Hope and kill the Strider.

Axemorph Demon - pair it with ANYBODY with two or more power, and watch what happens when you attack.  You can almost bank on the double blade ability.

 

I'd honestly say the Painmonger (dies too fast for his points) or the All_Seeing Mage (If there were enough Janus figures for his warpstrike to be useful).


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08/21/2006 12:35 PM  
As of set 1:

Doomball
Painmonger
Steelborn Griffin
Shard Troll
Prowling Leopardman
Screambent Lunatic

Are my nominations for worst figs.  Probably in the order listed.  They are all pretty unplayable in my mind.

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08/21/2006 12:56 PM  

[QUOTE]Shivan Darkeyes wrote
As of set 1:

Doomball
Painmonger
Steelborn Griffin
Shard Troll
Prowling Leopardman
Screambent Lunatic

Are my nominations for worst figs.  Probably in the order listed.  They are all pretty unplayable in my mind.
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Why the Griffon?


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08/21/2006 1:31 PM  
Probably because, while Reinforce Valor is cool, he is way overcosted, stats-wise.

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08/21/2006 5:15 PM  
The malborn Croc is one of my least favorites.  He is disrupted too easily.


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08/21/2006 8:37 PM  
But he truly is a menace late game when your opponent will be spending the damage points on more worthwhile creatures.  The Croc almost never dies.  And is always there late game. 

The faction which I feel is the weakest is Passion.  They just die too easily.  Makes the late game struggle for points unmatched. 

I feel Passion and madness are too weak to stand on their own like mono Valor and mono Fear can.  Passion and Madness have to be mixed with the other two factions to be solid.  Just my 2 cents.  


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08/22/2006 4:53 AM  

[QUOTE]Thirty wrote
I feel Passion and madness are too weak to stand on their own like mono Valor and mono Fear can.  Passion and Madness have to be mixed with the other two factions to be solid.  Just my 2 cents.  
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I dont know - I have played against some pretty nasty Janus Warpstrike bands - I'll grant that it takes a skilled player to work well - but mono fear and mono madness can be solid - IMO


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08/22/2006 4:57 AM  

course now I feel stupid - I have never played against a mono madness Janus warp band. All have had valor in them. I have played against strong mono fear though.

 


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08/22/2006 5:01 AM  
man - I am tired - I am not reading well - please strike my last two posts as insane ramblings of a man without much sleep

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09/02/2006 2:11 PM  
Anything that dies when it attacks is pretty much usless IMO.  I would have to chime in with Doomball, I also think Jack in the Box pretty much sucks as well.Â

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09/02/2006 4:01 PM  
Jack in the Box is, I think, pretty fun. Workable.

I agree w/ the "asplode yourself" minis as pretty lame. I'd add to that the Skeever Hatchling (which just doesn't fit my play-style AT ALL).

Steelborn Griffon gets my award for coolest looking mini that will see the least amount of constructed play. I think it is the prettiest mini in the set and will keep a number to chop of their bases for RPG proxies. I have no fear at this point I'll be needing them for constructed.

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09/06/2006 9:44 PM  
I really dislike the Doomball. He gets the nomination for worst.
The Screambent Lunatic looks sucktastic.
I can't bring myself to run the Skeever.

I actually like the Griffon, he is a dice contributor and while his spawn is dumb the +3 defense over the eagle Feather is a relatively big deal just not really worth the 5 extra spawn. I'll traded mine but wouldn't mind another.

I should hate the Leopardman, but he has been a lucky piece on the rare occasions when I use it. Once he has gotten a Strike back off no one attacks it with less than a combined 6 power. I'll keep using it since I know I'll never trade him.

The Blood Wolf is actually fun, I could care less if he blows up.

The Jack in the Box is kick ass, period.

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